The most reduced she could get was the 15 years because it's the minimum mandatory not the full sentence. She could have gotten alot more.
I bet Misty is in her cell right now doing the math and she is not worried at all.
FWIW, I don't believe Juvie charges can be brought into this, Kimster. I am pretty sure.
What can be expected for the others?
for Tommy: a divorce granted due to imprisonment (irretreviably broken)
for Misty: 30 years x 1 HB/day = 10,950 HoneyBuns
And well, ... Ron's gonna need quite a few more pairs of underwear.
and a long time no see, for all. JMHO :angel:
Kim, I know if we go off topic we are in BIG trouble.......but I need some help. Can someone post a copy of "standard abbreviated chat speak?" As an example, what does the bold in Lonetraveler's post mean? I see where others are having the same problem. I can figures some of them out.....some I can't.
Please don't send me a warning......cause I know I'll do it again...and here comes my T.O.!
Lonetraveler's quote:
She most likely didn't understand that she didn't understand, KWIM? LOL. She may have thought she knew it all and dismissed her attorney as being an idiot, kinda like how she treated her mother.
This is crazy...as soon as I went back to re-read my post I figured it out. Know what I mean? But there are many more that I never get!
Oh my gosh! I just got a click telling me I had an new email, and figured it was Kim with my warning......it wasn't! My heart is still pounding!
Maybe it's just me. I remember when the call was released how Hope sounded as if she didn't understand why her lawyer plead no-contest
and here we are today, she is facing 15yrs. I wonder if she will appeal and get new counsel? Yes, she may of signed documents stating she understood but what did she understand is the question? What did her attorney lead her to believe or what state of mind was she in when she was explained what no-contest meant? I agree, she should be punished for her crime. But when I see at all the monsters that kill and get 5-10yrs or the sex offenders who get a few years or probation, well it just makes me feel that our justice system is so corrupt. Not that I am defending Hope. Just saying, if they are going to give a dope head 15 yrs, they need to give killers and Sex Offenders worst sentences.
I feel the tape shows she did not understand what a plea of no contest meant for her. She may have grounds for appeal given plea of no contest was not entered into knowingly or voluntarily. If her attorney failed to inform her that her plea would result in mandatory minimum sentence of 15 years, this omission may constitute ineffective assistance of counsel. I am not familiar with FL statute, but I would check into this if I were her family. Any FL attorneys on Websleuths? Feel free to weigh in.
Please know, I feel she should be punished for her crime. But I also feel she deserves to have adequate legal representation. Was this a rookie attorney? :waitasec:
marlame, your quote is messed up. None of the links work. Where can I hear this call? TIA
ETA: The quote from MADJGNLAW was messed up when you quoted it, and now yours is also.
I bet Misty is in her cell right now doing the math and she is not worried at all.
Wow, I'm at work and my handy calculator says @$5 day working 6 days a week, Hope would have that $250,000 fine paid in 160 years. heh
Yes, it seems pretty clear that he was taken there to specifically witness this, not so much as a character witness. I can't think of a single other case that I have seen where a prisoner in shackles served as a character witness! They wanted him to see the results of his influence and behavior and to know how seriously these charges are going to be treated. It seems clear that if this case resulted in a 15 year sentence, that the others should expect to be getting even longer ones than that.
jmoo
She might serve more time on drug trafficking than murder....
Wouldn't that be something....
I think what she got was pretty fair. She was caught on tape doing the deed. She plead no contest, and probably threw herself on the mercy of the court. The judge gave her the minimum sentence. Without the tape recording of her being a total jerk, he could have possibly dropped the charges to a lesser offense. (not sure about this) She was really asking for it, in my opinion. If I lived in the area, I'd make a note of this judge's name, so I would remember to vote for him in the next election.
She might serve more time on drug trafficking than murder....
Wouldn't that be something....
Look who else gets the same judge,TERRY J LARUE !
"Snip" http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php
UCN: 542010CF000146XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-01-21 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty: SHOEMAKER, TERRY J
Defendant
CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES
Alias
UCN: 542010CF000253XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-02-03 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty: SHOEMAKER, TERRY J
Defendant
CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES
CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010
And..
UCN: 542010CF000252XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-02-03 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty: FIELDS, ROBERT M
Defendant
CUMMINGS, MISTY JANETTE
Alias
CROSLIN, MISTY JANETTE
UCN: 542010CF000138XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-01-21 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty: FIELDS, ROBERT M
Defendant
CUMMINGS, MISTY JANETTE
CONTINUED TO 06/03/2010
And...
UCN: 542009CF001653XXAXMX
File Date: 2009-09-14 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty: WERTER, JAMES S
Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
2010-03-31 36 CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010
Date # Docket Description
2009-09-14 1 COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. KEN TAYLOR (8/19/09)
2009-09-14 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2009-09-16 3 ARREST REPORT: GRAND THEFT (9/15/2009)
UCN: 542009CF002113XXAXMX
File Date: 2009-11-06 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty: WERTER, JAMES S
Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
2010-03-31 21 CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010
Date # Docket Description
2009-11-06 1 ARREST REPORT - PCSO D/S ALITZER (ARREST 11/5/09)
2009-11-06 1 BOOKING NUMBER: 09-4578
2009-11-06 1 POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE
2009-11-06 1 POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA
UCN: 542010CF000147XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-01-21 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty: WERTER, JAMES S
Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010
Date # Docket Description
2010-01-21 1 COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (12/22/09)
2010-01-21 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2010-01-21 1 TRAFFICKING OXYCODONE
And...
UCN: 542009CF002296XXAXMX
File Date: 2009-11-24 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty: MACQUEEN, WILLIAM A
Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T SR
CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010
Date # Docket Description
2009-11-24 1 COMPLAINT FILED: FDLE
2009-11-24 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2009-11-24 1 DOCTOR SHOPPING(WITHHOLDING INFORMATION FROM A
2009-11-24 1 PRACTITIONER (F3)
And...
UCN: 542009CF002529XXAXMX
File Date: 2009-12-22 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty: BOOKHAMMER, WILLIAM
Defendant
CROSLIN, LISA CARMEN
SET FOR PRE TRIAL 05/13/2010.
Date # Docket Description
2009-12-22 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PATTY BRIMM 12-19-09
2009-12-22 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2009-12-22 1 FELONY THEFT
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