Hurricane Florence - September 2018

[Jax49]

...FLORENCE MOVING SLOWLY ACROSS EASTERN SOUTH CAROLINA... ...CONTINUES TO PRODUCE CATASTROPHIC FLOODING OVER NORTH CAROLINA AND SOUTH CAROLINA...8:00 AM EDT Sat Sep 15

Location: 33.6°N 79.5°W
Moving: W at 2 mph
Min pressure: 989 mb
Max sustained: 50 mph

 

[Al Hoffman]

so we have any idea of how many people did not leave?

Good Morning! Breakfast Chelada?

NBC this AM reports that 60% of the residents of Horry County, containing Myrtle Beach, evacuated. It is possible that flood water will wipe out only road leading to Myrtle Beach, preventing residents from returning (long term), and stopping food and fuel trucks from reaching empty stores and pumps. (I hope they enjoy MREs ala Helo!)

Mayor of Wilmington NC reports that night before last, as storm came on shore, the Wilmington Fire Department fought a fire in 90 mph wind!

Crazy, brave Tarheels likely just stuck in place, and the wind could not blow them away!

Governor of one of the Carolinas says: "We have days of rain to come".

Per NBC, death toll this AM now only 7.

God protect all in Harm's Way! And prayers for the souls of the Blessed Departed please.

 

[Jax49]

7 dead in North Carolina after Florence with floodwaters still rising

As North Carolina residents navigated heavy rain and rising floodwaters that in some places could double the 10 to 20 inches that have fallen so far, neighboring South Carolina was bracing overnight for the brutal wallop of widespread flash flooding, mad, whipping wind and relentless rainfall that crept across the border into the eastern half of the state before dawn.

 

[Jax49]

Just saw one of the weathermen describe the current situation as "like having a hose in the ocean". Pulling more and more moisture up and dumping it.

moo

 

[Al Hoffman]

7 dead in North Carolina after Florence with floodwaters still rising

Great synopsis of conditions to date, thanks.

Per interview on NBC this AM, 20 members of Cajun Navy with 10 boats getting ready to go back out on the water in Wilmington NC for another day of water rescue. "the rivers have still not crested, all this water has to go somewhere" . They sheltered in and were fed by a Church, without power last night, that took them in.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Just saw one of the weathermen describe the current situation as "like having a hose in the ocean". Pulling more and more moisture up and dumping it.

This was more or less what was expected I think - that Florence would skip down the coast with one foot in the ocean and continue sucking up water. Just goes to show that the category of the storm can be so very misleading.

 

[Jax49]

This was more or less what was expected I think - that Florence would skip down the coast with one foot in the ocean and continue sucking up water. Just goes to show that the category of the storm can be so very misleading.

Exactly and with a speed of only 2 mph it is just going to keep raining. moo

 

[Jax49]

New Bern rescues continue amid Florence floodwaters in NC

 

[imstilla.grandma]

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[imstilla.grandma]

Where are these people standing to get all this footage? It’s so dangerous. Wait until you see the ending. Talk about risky.

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[CARIIS]

Great synopsis of conditions to date, thanks.

Per interview on NBC this AM, 20 members of Cajun Navy with 10 boats getting ready to go back out on the water in Wilmington NC for another day of water rescue. "the rivers have still not crested, all this water has to go somewhere" . They sheltered in and were fed by a Church, without power last night, that took them in.

What is really messed up is even after she is totally gone it takes time (days - Orville Dam stuff was unreal) for all the rest of the damages.

The water takes days to move around the rivers etc -- so in the upcoming days placed that are fine now are going to be completely destroyed as the water makes it down all the swollen rivers.

Think of how that is for the homeowners (they have like several days to flee tho and grab some stuff) .

But the KNOW without a doubt when they leave their homes WILL be destroyed without a doubt.

In these areas it is not like this or that might happen the river management folks know for sure what and when the waters will make it there and how high they will go - and how intense the flooding WILl be - to a science.

I watched it for weeks in Orville and they did not miss a beat

 

[Jax49]

11:00 AM EDT Sat Sep 15
Location: 33.6°N 79.6°W
Moving: W at 2 mph
Min pressure: 995 mb
Max sustained: 45 mph

So slow.

 

[FlossyMay]

Where are these people standing to get all this footage? It’s so dangerous. Wait until you see the ending. Talk about risky.

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[BUF]

@Jax49 Have you seen the latest models on boatus? This never-ending storm just will not stop...don't like that possibility of this going back out to sea and curving back around.

Florence : BoatUS Hurricane Tracking & Resource Center

 

[Jax49]

@Jax49 Have you seen the latest models on boatus? This never-ending storm just will not stop...don't like that possibility of this going back out to sea and curving back around.

Florence : BoatUS Hurricane Tracking & Resource Center

Yes, I saw that. I think I tried to block it out of my mind.

ETA: We've already got the threat of horrific flooding (as Cariis mentioned).

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Yes, I saw that. I think I tried to block it out of my mind.

ETA: We've already got the threat of horrific flooding (as Cariis mentioned).

From Europe's point of view, the consensus seems to be that it will cross over New England and Nova Scotia and then head back out into the North Atlantic and strengthen back into a storm as it does so. It has the potential to be the first big storm of autumn for the UK and Ireland.

 

[Jax49]

From Europe's point of view, the consensus seems to be that it will cross over New England and Nova Scotia and then head back out into the North Atlantic and strengthen back into a storm as it does so. It has the potential to be the first big storm of autumn for the UK and Ireland.

Wow. Either way it just won't go away, moo.

 

[CARIIS]

@Jax49 Have you seen the latest models on boatus? This never-ending storm just will not stop...don't like that possibility of this going back out to sea and curving back around.

Florence : BoatUS Hurricane Tracking & Resource Center

The way this site illustrates things is misleading visually. They put all the "lines" as if they are equal. If you look at other representations of the runs you will see like 12 models that have her going north and then east.

There is one little lonely model run that swoops it back down and south .

 

[Jax49]

It has the one (or two?) crazy run(s) that loop it over Bermuda and another weird one (orange) that backs it up.

Interesting, even if only a couple of runs. Spaghetti models have always fascinated me. moo

 

[CARIIS]

It has the one (or two?) crazy run(s) that loop it over Bermuda and another weird one (orange) that backs it up.

Interesting, even if only a couple of runs. Spaghetti models have always fascinated me. moo

Me too

but ya know is just flat out dumb

these things cost billions

WTH is one more billion buck right!

These entire grids are going to have to be totally rebult. What do we do - stick in 1950 designed wood poles.

I know this time there is no choice. But hey power companies -- start manucatoring and stockpiling cement power poles i dont know steel

teflon I ain't that smart and have no idea but whatever not stupid a%% wood poles.

manufacture and stockpile different ways they are put in the ground and held there

make a stockpile stronger lines themselves

then the next one you have new safer stronger way to reinstall whenever the next one that wipes out huge portions of a grid

the power companies themselves are never gonna do it

well billions of mitigation comes out of taxpayers anyhow

so take a billion and start prefabricating NEW stuff

obviously we need stockpiles

I don't remember the number but the actual number of transformers nation wide was chillingly useless

if any of this would get started and in place and then ready the next time they could just kill the system let it come through and if everything is not a giant mess do a check up flip the switch and the city is back up !!

lets do a multiple choice test!

Out of the pictures below please select the picture you believe might withstand hurricane winds better?

A

B

Be sure to elaborate on your choice in detail.