IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #30

[Bootsctr]

BBL! Hubby home. Needs attention!

 

[Marilynilpa]

I have wondered about the cleaning too. What I am thinking is, a lot of older ladies, grandmas, cleaned their homes every day, and would probably continue to do so when they were caring for their daughter's home. There were quite a few people there at the Collin's home over the course of a day, the girls could be wiping down the bathroom, a high traffic area, every time they were there. Also, I wonder if Grandma was trying to instill the idea of order and work ethic in the girls, especially Lyric, who had dysfunction and chaos in her young life.

My 75 year old mom cleans every day, even though it's just her and my dad! She says her knick-knacks get dusty.

ETA: By knick-knacks, I hope you realize I mean "collectibles" and not bosoms.

 

[Marilynilpa]

I assumed Dan got the quad brought to the lake so he could travel quickly around the perimeter of the lake. Maybe that was the thought in his mind, check around the lake, maybe see something, or someone, that nobody else has yet. I wonder if he also thought he could quickly ride up and down the nearby streets, and around the nearby homes, in case the girls were wandering around there. During the frantic search would the police get after or fine the father of one of the girls for not having a licence, or riding a quad on public roads searching for his daughter?

We have quads too, and you're correct that they are useless in a dense area. That's why I assume Dan wanted his quad so he could quickly ride around the lake and the trail, and any open areas and the nearby streets.

That's possible, although there's been no mention of him doing so.

 

[Marilynilpa]

Ugh I hate grocery shopping, I do it online.

No queues, no lugging heavy bags, no screeching toddlers.

Online? How does that work? Do you order online from a grocer who delivers?

That sounds like heaven.

 

[Marilynilpa]

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

My party IS going to get groceries! I only WISH there was a big party to follow. I'll be back here the minute I get the food unloaded into the pantry and fridge. Why these people I live with think they need to eat is beyond me...for cryin' out loud, don't they know I have sleuthing to do? SHEESH!!

But if you kind of sway along to the background music and nibble on cheese samples, you can kind of convince yourself you're at a party. :blushing:

 

[SapphireSteel]

Online? How does that work? Do you order online from a grocer who delivers?

That sounds like heaven.

Yep all the big supermarkets here offer online shopping. It's a God send and believe it or not, saves you loads of money (eliminates impulse buying).

www.colesonline.com.au

 

[carbuff]

Yep all the big supermarkets here offer online shopping. It's a God send and believe it or not, saves you loads of money (eliminates impulse buying).

www.colesonline.com.au

In our area, we have Peapod. They're around many major US cities.

 

[SapphireSteel]

Every time there is an arrest involving meth, I hope for breaking news...then when I seen he was in Readlyn I got even more hopeful!

lease:

I guess I'm having a hard time visualising the size of the area, but is it possible this tweaker knows/does business with the Morrissey side? They live in Waterloo and he's a similar age, got the same sort of rode-hard look about him.

:twocents:

 

[Unique444]

The concert is this Saturday -

Tickets, at $20 each, are available at all Hy-Vee grocery stores in Waterloo, Cedar Falls and Waverly; McElroy box office; Cobblestone Creek and First Security State Bank in Evansdale; and online at www.angelsconcert.com...In addition, people wanting to purchase "pay it forward" tickets can make a payment on Werkmeister's PayPal account at [email protected]. Indicate that the payment is for the Concert for the Angels.
http://wcfcourier.com/news/evansdal...cle_e1124c41-3022-5ea4-89db-6b94c7f1d77f.html

:what:

The ticket sales go straight to the personal Paypal account of the organiser!!!!

I don't know why that last statement made me laugh out loud but it did. :fence:

 

[Marilynilpa]

I guess I'm having a hard time visualising the size of the area, but is it possible this tweaker knows/does business with the Morrissey side? They live in Waterloo and he's a similar age, got the same sort of rode-hard look about him.

:twocents:

I don't know how much I can say without violating the no sleuthing rule. But a check of his FB friends does turn up a couple of familiar last names.

 

[SapphireSteel]

I don't know how much I can say without violating the no sleuthing rule. But a check of his FB friends does turn up a couple of familiar last names.

Wow...just as I made a comment about someone knowing something and blabbing for a lighter sentence.

Maybe this is the seemingly irrelevant arrest LE have been waiting for...

lease:

 

[BunnyHop]

Are you a florist? Please don't feel obligated to tell me if it's one of those situations if you tell me you would have to "you know what" <makes slicing motion with finger across throat> situations. :drumroll: I'm here all week folks!

P.S.: We got a new smilie! :drumroll: First time I've seen the little guy any way! :woohoo:

Hi Boots :seeya:

Yes I am. I have mentioned it before. 30+ years. Also worked Interior Design. I am familiar with very large event planning.

Flowers, nurseries, landscapers, hence my experience with proper planning, local codes, permits and blueprints.

I do not consider myself a horticulturist, nor a landscape designer-never have. I do have deep respect for those trained in those fields.

:skip:













:drumroll:

 

[BunnyHop]

That's possible, although there's been no mention of him doing so.

I was going to ask, is there a link or is this hearsay?

 

[BunnyHop]

The concert is this Saturday -

Tickets, at $20 each, are available at all Hy-Vee grocery stores in Waterloo, Cedar Falls and Waverly; McElroy box office; Cobblestone Creek and First Security State Bank in Evansdale; and online at www.angelsconcert.com...In addition, people wanting to purchase "pay it forward" tickets can make a payment on Werkmeister's PayPal account at [email protected]. Indicate that the payment is for the Concert for the Angels.
http://wcfcourier.com/news/evansdal...cle_e1124c41-3022-5ea4-89db-6b94c7f1d77f.html

:what:

The ticket sales go straight to the personal Paypal account of the organiser!!!!

I can't say what I'd like to say. So I will just:

:silenced:

and wait....................

:shush:

 

[BunnyHop]

Online? How does that work? Do you order online from a grocer who delivers?

That sounds like heaven.

I have a few friends who do this


http://www.peapod.com/

 

[Marilynilpa]

Wow...just as I made a comment about someone knowing something and blabbing for a lighter sentence.

Maybe this is the seemingly irrelevant arrest LE have been waiting for...

lease:

Let's hope so. This guy is facing some serious charges, so perhaps that will be enough to get him talking, assuming he knows anything.

 

[Marilynilpa]

If Bremer County considers Lyric and Lizzie's case to be homicide, why doesn't Black Hawk County?

http://iowacoldcases.org/cases-by-county/bremer-county/

 

[threecrazykids]

Whew! Groceries are done!:woohoo:

Gotta go back and see if I missed anything!:seeya:

 

[superbee]

Dan didn't get to the lake until nearly 5, two hours after he was called.

LE had already searched by then, a fireman found the bikes at 4pm.

Sometimes it is hard to figure out why others do what they do. There were several dysfunctional/addicted folks in the family I married into. They did strange things in strange ways. Made sense to them in their way of thinking. Many times they and their actions made no sense to me. A councillor friend told me that it was like apples and oranges, their logic was not my logic, and it would always be that way.

Then add in the evil of meth, a friend's son tore apart their home under the influence of meth, it looked like a tornado had gone through the place. The next day he claimed he didn't remember a thing. A neighbour saw through a window and phoned the parent's cell. When they got home to the destruction, their son didn't even recognize them. Their son was a wonderful person until he tried meth, he was hooked from his first try. What a nightmare.

Maybe that is why much of what went on in the disappearance of Lyric and Lizzie doesn't make sense to many of us. Actions done by completely different mind processes. The riding around on the quad is an example. We see a time gap. Dan may simply see a father riding his quad looking for his daughter, searching again after the others had searched the same area.

Maybe he did what made sense to him, the way his mind was working at that time. Maybe driving around on his quad then made him feel like he was helping search for Lyric and Elizabeth, no matter what time it was? Maybe he had a feeling they were not in the lake, had been taken away, and he hoped to find and rescue them? Maybe he was riding around mainly to soothe his own conscience, or he was putting on a show? I don't know. It is very hard to fathom what is going on in someone else's mind, especially if there is dysfunction and addiction. imo

 

[sreshowtime]

What if the perp (or at least the person that made initial contact) was a female?

Would 2 girls be more apt to go with a female, they might know Or not know, maybe if told, 'oh Lizzy, Lyric, hurry come with me your mother, father, sister grandma is sick/hurt'...they sent me to fetch you fast! they will get your bikes later....hurry!