GUILTY IA - Kraigen Grooms for child sexual abuse, Ottumwa, 2013

[Jersey*Girl]

I wonder if its possible to look on other eBay sites for the white hoodie. Maybe change our location from the USA to Sweden, or Germany or something... Could that maybe bring up other possibilities? If we can do that, then if we find one we can check their feedback for people from the US. I mean, it's a start I guess but it makes me uneasy to profile like that...don't want innocent people's info out there.

 

[Jerri Blank]

Thanks Jerri-I am terrible with faces. I found it on a punk band facebook page.

NP! any ideas are good at this point!!! i am still not 100% if this kid is a victim or a suspect (given his youthful look, i am guessing if he is a suspect, he's probably also been a victim at some point :/ ) either way, he needs to be found ASAP!

 

[Jerri Blank]

I wonder if its possible to look on other eBay sites for the white hoodie. Maybe change our location from the USA to Sweden, or Germany or something... Could that maybe bring up other possibilities? If we can do that, then if we find one we can check their feedback for people from the US. I mean, it's a start I guess but it makes me uneasy to profile like that...don't want innocent people's info out there.

yeah, i looked through ebay in the US and there was nothing... that's why i was starting to think it was either knock off (but then you found a bunch of legit images of other colors) or outlet (but you say you saw it in a retail store, so that's out)...

i suppose ICE could have digitally altered the colors in the pictures, but i don't really know why they would? yet, there is no white sweatshirt to be found! so weird...

i am not against looking abroad to see if its being sold there. i agree posting personal info of innocent folks is a slippery slope though. i wouldnt want my facebook tied to a thread about child ...

 

[Jersey*Girl]

There seem to be 7 Adidas stores in TX: 6 are outlets & 1 is the normal retail store. The store in Allen seems to be closest to Dallas & is the most northern, not that it really even matters. I wonder if ICE contacted the outlets to see if they sold a white hoodie like this one and if so when was it for sale?

http://www.adidas.com/us/content/storelocator/

Round Rock
adidas Factory Outlet
(512) 868-9065
4401 N Interstate 35
Suite 699
Round Rock, TX 78664

San Marcos Tanger
adidas Factory Outlet
(512) 392-4111
4015 Interstate 35 South
Suite 720
San Marcos, TX 78666

Allen
adidas Factory Outlet
(972) 678-4536
820 West Stacy Road
Suite 200
Allen, TX 75013

Houston
adidas Factory Outlet
(281) 373-4443
29300 Hempstead Road
Suite 713
Cypress, TX 77433

Houston Galleria
adidas Sport Performance Store
(713) 627-9300
5135 W Alabama
Space 5350
Houston, TX 77056

El Paso Outlet Shoppes
adidas Factory Outlet
(915) 877-2136
7051 S Desert Blvd
Space B-291
Canutillo, TX 79835

Rio Grande Valley
adidas Factory Outlet
(956) 565-2020
5001 E Expressway 83
Suite 800
Mercedes, TX 78570

 

[buffetoflies]

On ICE's FB, under their post dated August 5th, a guy comments that he's definitely seen this kid on Odessa. Could we maybe search Odessa & it's surrounding areas? Worth a shot?

https://www.facebook.com/wwwICEgov

Fairly easy to check. There are 3 main high-school's there. An agent could just bring in a pic to the schools and ask, right?

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Fairly easy to check. There are 3 main high-school's there. An agent could just bring in a pic to the schools and ask, right?

It was posted on their Facebook page in the comments underneath this poster. They'd have followed up on that tip, I'm sure. Right? But they must not have found him bc this is still active... Idk, all crime cases are bad but its the ones like this that really get to me. All I can think about is that poor little girl...ya know?

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Ok, now I'm really wondering if there's a chance it could be grey. I mean, is it possible? This is why... I just came across the basketball jersey thatis part of this line, it's reversible grey/blue. If ICE enhanced the photo of this teen so as to lighten or brighten the pic, then it's possible it could make the grey look white and the blue stripes in the hood look black. Here's the jersey that's part of the same line, notice the & black one that matches those hoodies that I already posted...

http://www.basketballdirect.co.uk/c...fx-reversible-basketball-jersey-blue-grey-p95

Description:
CLIMALITE® fabric sweeps sweat away from your skin
Rounded neck
Reversible
Screenprinted graphic on chest of one side; adidas brandmark on chest of other side
Contrast colour details
100% polyester doubleknit
There's more than one side to your game, and there's more than one side to the men's adidas Reversible Graphic Jersey. This basketball jersey has a different graphic on each side, and because it's made from CLIMALITE® fabric it keeps you dry however you wear it.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

The line doesn't show white. However I did see baby blue online but couldn't find an authentic one in that color... But it does show grey - so we have red, black, blue but not the grey. I'll keep looking...

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Idk maybe I'm just wishful thinking bc to me it looks white with grey adidas letters then grey & black or blue signature triple stripes inside of the hood.

 

[Flutterflies]

Bringing over from page one:

Hi PMLsmom,

The link I posted said that the hat wasn't for sale but had a limited release in north Texas. Where did you find it for sale? That might be really important info since they are basing their assumption on where this person is by where they believe the hat came from.

Thanks!

IRT the ADIDAS hoodie, I think it is white.

I think the above post about the cap being a limited release is an important clue.

Could the hoodie be a limited release as well?

Has any WS contacted adidas to inquire about the hoodie?

 

[believe09]

I started combing through the facebooks of the owners of Shut Up N Play LLC in Colleyville TX. My thought process was that if the hat was a limited release, there was a chance it was a prototype given to the teen. fwiw.

I cant tell from the media whether or not the image is a contemporary one.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I started combing through the facebooks of the owners of Shut Up N Play LLC in Colleyville TX. My thought process was that if the hat was a limited release, there was a chance it was a prototype given to the teen. fwiw.

I cant tell from the media whether or not the image is a contemporary one.

Except that it is for sale on their website...

http://www.shutupnplay.com/?product=unconstructed-washed-cotton-cap

Just choose black. It's available in black, purple and white.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I have to run, taking my son to see Percy Jackson. I'll check in when I get back. Hopefully ICE releases more details or somebody else stumbles upon something that brings this cat to justice.

 

[Flutterflies]

Except that it is for sale on their website...

http://www.shutupnplay.com/?product=unconstructed-washed-cotton-cap

Just choose black. It's available in black, purple and white.

Yes, but, the photo of the cat was from April 2013. Was the cap available for sale in April 2013?

 

[Backwoods]

Hey, y'all -- we were asked earlier NOT to bring the pics directly into the thread. As far as I know, this still goes. Just a heads-up.

Hey Everybody - please read this. We are on shaky ground here. It appears that the photos ICE has posted are of a minor. This could be a victim and we want to be especially careful here.

Please DO NOT repost the pictures. Rely on ICE's link. I know this slows things down and makes it a bit more difficult - but if the person is a victim, we do NOT want to add to any pain they may be suffering under. If it turns out that the unidentified person is a perp, we can change our stance on this but until then, please do the best you can while protecting all identities.

This goes for any other minors you come across in your sleuthing. We want to help, but we also want to do everything we can to protect the innocent.

Use initials where you can and provide the links. Don't post pictures. If the info goes down at ICE because of an identification or something, please alert right away so we can review the situation.

This will be a challenge, guys - but I know you can do it! Let me know if you have any questions and thank you all so much for giving your time and energy to help.

Salem

PS - I have removed some posts that had the picture in them. As soon a I get time, I will try to replace the picture with a link and restore the posts.

 

[believe09]

I think it is this hat:

With the ballcap logo...jmvho. Maybe that is why it could be quickly identified as a limited release.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Hey, y'all -- we were asked earlier NOT to bring the pics directly into the thread. As far as I know, this still goes. Just a heads-up.

Thank you for this Backwoods. Sorry guys. I thought bc it was a federal wanted poster that it was allowed. I thought Salem was referring to other pictures being brought into this thread. Not that there are any other pictures, it's just that my mind went to the other case that we were all on before, I think Wisconsin or Missouri, I forget. Anyway, sorry about that. :blushing:

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I think it is this hat:

With the ballcap logo...jmvho. Maybe that is why it could be quickly identified as a limited release.

You mean a flat brim? Makes sense...

 

[Jersey*Girl]

On ICE's FB, under their post dated August 5th, a guy comments that he's definitely seen this kid on Odessa. Could we maybe search Odessa & it's surrounding areas? Worth a shot?

https://www.facebook.com/wwwICEgov

Sorry to quote myself but wanted to point out that the flyer released by ICE & posted 8/5 on their official FB page informs this cat's a dude.

https://www.facebook.com/wwwICEgov

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I think there is something very sad emanating from those pictures.

The way I view it is that he's raping a little girl and his face is strange during the violation then he's happy go lucky joking laughing when he's finished. The pictures disgust me. I didn't feel that way when I saw the first picture, but then I saw all 3 of them & blew them up. That is a little girl with curly brown hair in a pony tail with a pink pony holder backwards in front of him. The implication is apparent.

Also, I understand now the discussion about the sex of this wanted person. It's bc the official ICE poster isn't linked with ICE's web page of him, it's not with those set of 3 photos of him. However, when looking on the official ICE FB page, they provide the official poster of this guy and specifically name him as a male John Doe. Well people can't tell he's a male by the pictures on their website so they must have seen his anatomy in order to label him a male. Now pair that with the little girl backwards in front of him. His exposed anatomy shouldn't be anywhere near her. Yet it has to be if they labeled him a male John Doe. See what I mean?

That's why he disgusts me, bc IMO he's a slimy child molester and I believe that's why ICE wants him. Even if he was abused in his past, he's the abuser now, so he needs to pay big time for this & I can only hope & pray he's in TX bc we all know their laws carry the strictest sentences...