Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #16

[Deleted member 718]

Mollie Tibbetts' dad pleads for his daughter back

The father of the missing 20-year-old college student doesn't believe anyone she's with actually wants to harm her.

Video: Mollie Tibbetts' dad pleads for his daughter back

Extended video of Dad from today.

 

[renarde]

I wonder if any of those little piggies south of Brooklyn went on a field trip to the county fair:

Fair

 

[GhostGhost]

Maybe I've missed this, but has LE said anything about local sex offenders being ruled out?

There are a couple 3-4 minutes away.


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[InvSmith]

Exactly. Almost like he knows something...

I almost thought the father's words were meant to apply even if, god forbid, Mollie is deceased. To get the person to confess, with the psychological out of it was a "mistake", things got out of hand. I know it is very unlikely that someone would confess to being part of a death, but this was how it struck me.

Until he states otherwise for me, he is having an active conversation with a daughter to come home. This is an active investigation with strategy and he is doing his part well under the pressure. It is part of providing the person an opportunity to have a reason things got misunderstood and out-of-hand (a reasonably acceptable out.) It has been done well.

 

[Trino]

Exactly. Some offenders absolutely look like offenders, and some look like your average guy. Invariably however, every sexually motivated offender exhibits some sort of concerning behavior in their normal lives, it's just a matter of someone seeing it. The scary ones are able to conceal this behavior much better than others, but this behavior is still visible in certain contexts.

Ted Bundy was probably the dream guy for about every girl he encountered. He certainly didn't look like what we would think of as a killer.

 

[liz b.]

Amazing to think that Mollie was probably crazy busy with the upcoming wedding . I read that she was to be the maid of honor for her BF's brother's fiancé, and that the two young women even looked a lot alike. I wonder if Mollie had planned, or already given the bridal shower ? So many details to attend to...yet all plans came to a halt when Mollie was gone. It's astounding, what can happen to people.

 

[CANADIANCRIMESLEUTH]

Is anyone else feeling a little less than hopeful about the Fitbit information? I think I was hoping that deep down the “Perp” wouldn’t realize what it was, and that it would lead us all right to her. Though I realize there are probably many obstacles to overcome in obtaining access to the Fitbit information, I would have hoped to see something a little more promising by now.

 

[arch]

One case that this reminds me of is a MP case several years back where a competitive runner disappeared on a jog and a week or so later was discovered locked in a portajohn on an idle construction site, dead. He'd become physically ill from an undiagnosed heart condition during the run, went to the john and passed away. But since he was a well-respected member of the community, much of the speculation was that he fled to take some time away. I doubt there's anything unattended or underutilized in town that hasn't already been searched, but it took a surprisingly long time to find him in a well-populated suburban area, simply because the site wasn't high traffic, even though it was within a few hundred yards of his suspected route.

Related to this, I haven't seen any speculation along these lines: maybe she went to someone's house along the route, entered willingly, and the pings were part of a coverup after the fact. That could explain ambiguity around the timeline (for instance, knowing she was in town for some period of time, but not a specific location) combined with a different timeline around when the hog farm pings were picked up.

More speculation: could she have gone out to the nature area with a friend to get high and things went bad there? Friend panics, or she panics, and the coverup (mutual or otherwise) starts there? It's not uncommon in Iowa for folks to drive out into the country to smoke. This might relate to the "side of Mollie we don't know about."

Also, reports were that her driver's license was at home, but wouldn't she have also had a passport for the upcoming trip? Has that been accounted for?

 

[Stormy21]

i would like all storm drains and any construction sites searched as well as the landfill. Just how long is LE going to wait to grid search? And why hasn't the landfill been searched? And, thanks for info regarding the call, I think grid searches esp of corn are mandatory now.

A predator, who knows the area might:
1. Use a fast flowing river. Sometimes evidence never surfaces. It is harder to bury someone. You could find some remote woods. However if these methods were suspected, by now some trunks would be searched and taken apart. Burning would produce some residue.
2. Keep someone in an abandoned barn, corn crib, basement, house. There are plenty of these around Iowa, unfortunately.

I hope no one ever looks at my internet search history btw. Do others worry about that? Would look bad.

 

[Deleted member 227095]

and if a person is in the way of them doing this to finance their habit? I don't know that I agree with this Norman Rockwell we don't lock our doors and have no or very little cctv stuck in 1950 town. where there is meth there is crime and where there is very much crime there are cctv on most all retail and at least some homes. someone could easy be on cctv to do with this. if they are a 1tb system with 4 cameras is about to start recording over the time period in question.

I hope the citizens of Brooklyn invest in better technology to protect themselves and their families. The article posted earlier about the opioid crisis in Iowa was sobering. Then when meth is added into the equation it seems inevitable that crime will trend up over time in the region and small towns will start having large city crime issues. I wish this weren't the case as Brooklyn seems like a place that has been untouched by so many issues we face in other cities and regions of the country. When is scary about watching meth crime is that it can be completely random and sometimes violent. Having a county sheriff system with 1+ hr wait times or no return calls when you have a meth head at your house trying to break in could have tragic consequences. What I also found baffling was that local people were reporting crimes on facebook rather than calling in to the Sheriff. Maybe they realize they have a better chance of a friend or loved one helping them vs. law enforcement. At least some people have social networks that could help them but what about those that aren't so connected?

 

[MassGuy]

Ted Bundy was probably the dream guy for about every girl he encountered. He certainly didn't look like what we would think of as a killer.

Exactly. His unassuming looks allowed him to kill 30+women, who were tricked into letting their guard down.

 

[Stormy21]

There was a case where a woman was raped, beaten, and murdered by a guy in a bizarre mask.

The Husband was convicted in the court of public opinion, and the Police were clear they thought they had their guy, him.

Sometime later, another crime was committed that was eerily similar, but it was in another state.

Turns out the houses were not far from the Interstate. The Perp was a Trucker who picked the houses at random and it was a very impulsive thing.

We don’t know that someone (a stranger) didn’t see Mollie and follow impulse.


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Today, DNA evidence would be pretty useful ruling in or ruling out a husband.

 

[MassGuy]

Is anyone else feeling a little less than hopeful about the Fitbit information? I think I was hoping that deep down the “Perp” wouldn’t realize what it was, and that it would lead us all right to her. Though I realize there are probably many obstacles to overcome in obtaining access to the Fitbit information, I would have hoped to see something a little more promising by now.

I think that Fitbit was key in terming when she disappeared and where she went off the map. Beyond that, I don’t think there is/was ever, any hope of this data helping to solve the case. It was likely destroyed or shut off pretty early on, meaning that it will offer no further assistance at this point.

 

[Stormy21]

Exactly. His unassuming looks allowed him to kill 30+women, who were tricked into letting their guard down.

Ever read about Michael Swango? Maybe the worst mass murderer. He completed medical school at S. Illinois. His case is documented in the book 'Blind Eye'.

 

[Nah]

Also, reports were that her driver's license was at home, but wouldn't she have also had a passport for the upcoming trip? Has that been accounted for?

According to the Daily Mail, almost all of her stuff was located at the house other than the stuff she wore on her jog. Her new passport was found at home.

Mother of missing Iowa student Mollie Tibbetts says she does not believe she returned home | Daily Mail Online

 

[MassGuy]

Ever read about Michael Swango? Maybe the worst mass murderer. He completed medical school at S. Illinois. His case is documented in the book 'Blind Eye'.

I’m very familiar with that case. It’s a shame that so many people and organizations dropped the ball, which allowed him to keep on killing. Some of the worst serial killers in history have been in the medical profession, as it allows them opportunity to murder undetected.

 

[Beth11311]

I think that Fitbit was key in terming when she disappeared and where she went off the map. Beyond that, I don’t think there is/was ever, any hope of this data helping to solve the case. It was likely destroyed or shut off pretty early on, meaning that it will offer no further assistance at this point.

Agreed. Additionally, the type of Fitbit is key. Some of the versions are pretty basic (count steps, track sleep, not much else) and I believe she had one of the basic versions - can’t recall exact model. I don’t think it held much in the way of location triangulation data, if any at all.

 

[SuperTmo]

BBM, yes, exactly that. What we know about MT does not support that she is "voluntarily missing." There is no evidence that she has a pervasive mental illness or had a psychotic break. She appears to have strong family ties and close relationships/attachments. There is also no evidence to support that she would be so cold, callous or narcissistic to "disappear herself"...even if she had taken off on a sudden flight of fancy, does anyone here seriously entertain the notion that she would not at least have gotten word to her family/loved ones somehow by now that she was okay? Especially seeing the level of their emotional distress and the collateral damage her disappearance was causing, including the cancellation of her bf's brother's wedding! IMO, if MT were able, she would have let them know by now that she was all right. I have reached the same sad conclusion that you have, MG. I just hope she can be located. Oh, how I would love for both of us to be wrong about this!!!

People have done this in the past. People with kids and a spouse, a career and mortgage. Do you think anyone expected them to abandon their lives? Do you think there was evidence that they were cold, callous and mentally ill before they did it? No, most likely not. It isn’t unheard of for people to stage their own disappearance and not make contact despite the heart wrenching search going on for them.

 

[NewYork625]

I live in an area with limited cell phone coverage because I'm a distance from the nearest cell tower. I am wondering how the cell coverage is between Brooklyn and the pig farm. If there was limited coverage, the fitbit would hold the information for a limited amount of time (7 days?) until it could sync with a phone. Is that correct?

 

[Deleted member 227095]

A predator, who knows the area might:
1. Use a fast flowing river. Sometimes evidence never surfaces. It is harder to bury someone. You could find some remote woods. However if these methods were suspected, by now some trunks would be searched and taken apart. Burning would produce some residue.
2. Keep someone in an abandoned barn, corn crib, basement, house. There are plenty of these around Iowa, unfortunately.

I hope no one ever looks at my internet search history btw. Do others worry about that? Would look bad.

Clear out your cache frequently!