Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #30

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  • #541
Here's the cell towers overlaid on the points of interest map.
Thanks so much otto. Fabulous, especially since I need visuals.
 
  • #542
Wow. A statement like that can really throw everybody off. I just spent an hour trying to analyze all the scenarios, trying to catch up since late last night. You may might have just discounted every single one!! Surely one can narrow it down. I'm not good with maps either, like others have said. But I can still tell that some things are much closer to points than others! DON'T underestimate all the hard work everyone is doing on this!!!
I think I made my point then. I don't think any of the long over-complicated scenarios will turn out to be the case. I think whatever happened was very straightforward and this is not a competition of who is going to win with their guesses. If anyone is going to narrow it down, it's going to be the LE on the ground, because they actually know real information and not just a few tiny details. With what there is for the public to go on, it's not going to be solved on here, unless it's because every single possible thing has been theorized. JMO
 
  • #543
Thanks, that's exactly what I mean. I was wondering if this is coming up because of a case I didn't follow or if it's just conjecture.
I don’t know of any case like this. I have read novels where that happens though. Lol
 
  • #544
That's why I am trying to get a definitive answer. I assume there is more than just pings and witnesses, I'm just looking for confirmation, thank you! Other things like a particular car or person spotted by the cameras, things like that I would think are also associated with the dots, but someone said it was the pings ALONE, that is what I want the answer to. I read so much until late last night, u can't remember it all now. There were some who stated one or the other. I just want to be SURE we are not talking (or are)talking about cell phone pings ALONE. In other words, fact as opposed to assunption, if anyone knows for sure.
Only LE knows the how or the why of the locations. Asking them has proven fruitless.
 
  • #545
Is this what everyone working on the maps assumes? That all dots represent pings? Are the scenarios based on that alone or just that those areas are significant? I thought it was a combination of things. Otherwise we are assuming that the scenarios in terms of route into town and escape route are based on cell phone pings alone? It would help me if this were cleared up. Which is it, pings alone or combination?

We know from the last press release that the police map is points of interest in relation to Mollie's abduction, not pings.
 
  • #546
BBM...I hope it is not the case, but she may have been more than a kidnap victim at that point, or may have been incapacitated and hidden in the trunk. Perhaps the perp needed something to come down from his adrenaline rush, or something as simple as needed gas, especially if it was really a crime of opportunity and not something that had been well-planned in advance. JMO

Happy Birthday!

It's possible, but it means that between 5-10PM the perp abducted Mollie, drove East, then South, then to the truck stop - perhaps without Mollie? Would that mean that Mollie is somewhere near the bottom right dot?

I'm still inclined to think that the truck stop was the first point of interest, around 5, but it may have been the last stop before heading home.
 
  • #547
Greenwich mean time. England
Phone is always either connected or trying to connect. Unless it’s piwered off. Still it makes intermittent connections to keep time, etc current to Greenland meantime.
Signal may not be strong enough for the phone to remain connected long enough to make a call.

But in data records they would reflect that the phone made the attempt.


Way over simplified but easy to understand.

Greenwich meantime. England
 
  • #548
It may have been posted, but if so, I missed it. Is it possible to map the 5 spots of interest, along with some scale that tells distance between spots. I am curious to know approximately how long it would take someone to get to all of the areas of interest, realizing of course, that we don't really know in which order, or even in fact, if, all areas were gone to in the same time frame. Thanks for any help!
 
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  • #549
Here's the cell towers overlaid on the points of interest map.
Very helpful. It still looks to me like she could have been being driven around the backroads in a car, either voluntarily or involuntarily or a combination of the two.
 
  • #550
Ok does anyone know if a smart phone will reveal post numbers. Mine never has shown them.

It does, but you have to rotate your phone to landscape mode.
 
  • #551
Far from "broken." ;-)

Sorry, I was only being half serious with that post but reading it back again it comes across a bit too serious.

Sorry about that.
 
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There are always sightings. Who knows. I doubt it though
 
  • #555
I didn't think about this (just had a brain fart). Doesn't most company trucks these days carry GPS? If so and LE saw something on video (like a specific work vehicle) I would think they would have went to that company (like the electric company) and they would have reviewed all those GPS records of all the drivers. I know my husband works for AT&T and he has a GPS on his work truck, GPS on his work phone and GPS on his work computer. So if he were to do something like kidnapping someone and LE had any inclination it was him, they would be able to track his whereabouts at least while he was at work using his work truck and work equipment. Now of course many companies are probably not up to date with all this technology like AT&T is. Many companies may not even give their employees cell phones. At my husband's last job he had to use his own personal cell phone for work. So if this perp DID work at a job where he is followed by GPS (and I would think he would be smart enough to know this) he would most likely have abducted Mollie in his own personal vehicle while he is NOT at work OR on company time. Just something to consider. JMO.
 
  • #556
This is what I'm thinking. She made it back from her jog but not into the house.

I really think she made it back from her jog too. I am trying to think of a scenario now to explain HOW, but haven't figured one out yet that will work.
 
  • #557
That sounds like he may have known that she would be alone ?

It could be a conversation that's been overheard between her and her boyfriend.
 
  • #558
Very helpful. It still looks to me like she could have been being driven around the backroads in a car, either voluntarily or involuntarily or a combination of the two.

I followed the Corrie McKeague case for a long time here in the UK and one thing I learnt is that the phone ping data tells LE whether the phone is moving by vehicle or on foot. I'm sure LE would know the timing, and therefore speed, of the phone between Brooklyn and its last known location.

By now the FBI must have tonnes of data from the phone/Fitbit/CCTV/witnesses but it is the lack of action that I can never get used to in US cases versus here in the UK (very different laws/rules of course). I don't know how you guys stick it out on so many cases.
 
  • #559
Does anyone else find it highly unlikely that MT just happened to be abducted on a run that she takes almost everyday, at the one time that she was staying at a house alone. I think it’s probably far more likely that it was by somebody that had direct knowledge of her being home alone. I think LE knows where and when she was abducted, but don’t have any direct evidence as to which person in her life is responsible. I think the damning detail is probably at there fingertips. In other words they have the edges and the corner pieces of the puzzle, but can’t seem to find those elusive middle pieces that tie it all together. Just where I stand in my thinking right now. What do others think?
 
  • #560
There are always sightings. Who knows. I doubt it though
Agree. Eye witness account least reliable. Yet it's great to see folks are on the look out and reporting in.
 
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