IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #39

[whiskers]

I believe that what he said was this " I blacked out." When LE made the statement " He blocked it out," that is just the way he pronounced it. As someone said the short a in Spanish is pronounced " ah" like el gato. Or block. Many times, especially with the younger generation, they add an extra ed to a word ending in ed. For example, the word asked is pronounced, " ask ded " so blacked would be pronounce "blackded " I have heard this over and over. It sounds weird to us ( that's why I always notice it.) So " He blocked it out", is Rivera saying, " I blahck ted out. In other words , " I blacked out". It would be so much easier to say than write, but that's the best I can do. I hear it ALL the time. It may not be the case, but it sure woukd help clear things up if it is.

Thank you, that does help. But I would think if they had an interpreter present, that it would be word for word. I sure hope they had one.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

It's not opinion if you consider the body was there for 33 days. It would be in the final stages of decomposition. But of course, we are all hoping they find something, even the slightest piece of evidence, to show what he did and what a horrible person he is.

Unless the OP,or you, supplies links that state's it's not possible it's only the posters opinion.

Sorry, but that's the way it works here.

Until I hear otherwise I still think that semen containing the defendants DNA could possibly be recovered. JMO

 

[MassGuy]

I was just thinking of years ago, about the topic of lone females hitchhiking. How eventually, after numerous cases of predators who murdered and raped or victims not ever found, hitchhiking became recognized as an extremely unsafe practise.

Now it seems a similar type of risk is focused on lone female joggers.

That’s true. I’m curious as to if it’s an actual trend, or just a perception based on coverage. Has their been a statistical spike? Or are we just more aware of it? I would think it’s the latter.

 

[MsBetsy]

In talking about the time between first contact and abduction, I don't see much that she could have done.

If we are to believe that she did in fact threaten to call the police, that action is a high percentage play. Most of the time, an accoster will back off at that point, not escalate further. Of course she couldn't know that this guy was likely going to attack her, regardless of what she said or did.

I suppose her only option was to in fact call 911. But she might not have had the time. This in no way blames here in any way, but I think it's important for us to analyze the situation so that we might be able to develop a plan, were a situation like that to occur to us.

I agree, that was her ONLY option and he obviously anticipated this and grabbed it first chance he had. I suppose she could have fought him, and I bet she fought for her life, to a certain point. She just didn't have a chance. You can't prepare for something you would never expect to happen.

 

[cheesyrider]

At 2.05 is that a black Chevy Malibu?

No. Looks like a Ford Fusion to me

 

[MassGuy]

No because they are also illegal. Everyone that worked with him and is friends with him are also illegal. Their desire to remain in the country will overrule helping with an investigation. They are terrified of being discovered. I am sure someone that works with him did in fact notice physical evidence or something off with him, but kept their mouth shut.

We don’t know for a fact that he only associated with other illegals. But your point as to why other illegal immigrants may be unwilling to come forward, is a valid one.

 

[Deleted member 718]

Eastern Iowa runners support Mollie Tibbetts

"Around 30 eastern Iowa runners dedicated their Sunday morning to Mollie Tibbetts.

They runners ran the NewBo route to train for an upcoming marathon. By dedicating their miles they said they were showing support for Mollie's family and telling runners to continue doing what they love."

"I actually have seen friends say you know what, anytime, any place, if you're afraid to run, call me. I'll meet you there, we'll go together. You know, we're not going to sit back and be afraid. You know, it's empowering," Steele said."

 

[whiskers]

At 2.05 is that a black Chevy Malibu?

Looks like a Ford, but I’m going to watch again.

 

[Followfacts]

Usually, the murder following a rape is simply to eliminate the witness. Especially in this case, when Mollie likely could have identified him. Jmo she had no chance once he decided.

OT, I am not much for the fighter/non-fighter aspect; we mostly think of'ourselves as fighters yet circumstances alone determine who gets to fight back and who doesn’t. And some women have chosen not to fight in hopes of saving their lives. We can’t/shouldn’t classify victims, imo...

I was questioning the killing and why?

 

[MsBetsy]

I wasn't going for finding a motive. I was going for how extra senseless it would have been if CR initially intended only to steal MT's phone, much less murder her (for whatever reason).

People are killed for senseless reasons all the time, that's true.

 

[flashy09]

No. Looks like a Ford Fusion to me

I think you are right about the Ford now that I am looking for the Ford logo. When I saw it and looked for the Chevy it looked like it could be a blurry chevy logo.

 

[scoodyboo]

I don't believe CR was after her phone, I only toss that idea in to the ring to be complete. Here on Websleuths, we attempt to think of all possibilities and then discuss.

People sell phones they steal. Despite Anti-Theft Features, Thieves Still Seek Out iPhones

 

[Considering]

"Investigators believe that Rivera is from Mexico and had been living in the area from four to seven years, Rahn said. He said that investigators have interrogated him with the help of a translator."

Suspect in Iowa murder worked at farm tied to Republican farmer

Politicians target immigration law after arrest in Mollie Tibbetts case

 

[MistyWaters]

I wasn't going for finding a motive. I was going for how extra senseless it would have been if CR initially intended only to steal MT's phone, much less murder her (for whatever reason).

Yes I suppose that’d be true although any one reason is just as senseless as another. Logic just does not apply. It’s possibly why some felons, who following incarceration manage to turn their life around, still can never explain precisely why they did what they did.

 

[Jaclin]

I am sorry that I reached my limit of free articles on the Des Moines Register site, but they are a newspaper, and in this day and age, most people do not get actual newspapers to nearly the extent they did even just a few years ago. Most people get their news on tv or online, and newspapers have every right to charge for their online editions, and I guess most have to in order to survive. I know my local newspaper does. It may look like the DR site is being opportunistic, in light of the Mollie case and attention that came with it, but I imagine that policy was in place well before any of us ever heard of Mollie. JMO

I had reached my limit, too, until I cleared my cookies due to my internet going slow. I agree that it's reasonable for them to request subscriptions from people who regularly view their articles. Thing is, with most national news you can find another source.

 

[MsGazette]

Came across this article that mentions Mollie and statistics of solo women joggers. Thought I would share...

Mollie Tibbetts' murder highlights statics for female runners and harassment

 

[ChuckMaureen]

Regarding service providers deactivating the phone in the case it is stolen, I don't think he was after the phone either, but what if the phone was unlocked? Then, would just contacting the service provider prevent someone from slipping in a SIM from another provider and using the phone, perhaps in Mexico?

"Slipping in a SIM" does not preclude from identifying the actual phone. The International Mobile Equipment Identity ("IMEI") is a unique identifier embedded in every phone device, separate from SIM cards. I am not sure if the IMEI is shared between carrier network providers but if LE knows the provider(s) to which an IMEI was ever registered it is possible to track a history of 'owners' of the device.

 

[feralwriter]

I was just thinking of years ago, about the topic of lone females hitchhiking. How eventually, after numerous cases of predators who murdered and raped or victims not ever found, hitchhiking became recognized as an extremely unsafe practise.

Now it seems a similar type of risk is focused on lone female joggers.

Like Massguy said, it may be increased coverage, but a lot of women I've discussed this case with have had the attitude of, "Well, you just can't go out jogging, cuz that's when they grab 'ya." The last neighbor who said this to me- when we discussed risk factors- (I said MT had NONE) I wanted to say to her, well, yeah, you gonna be ok walking to your car after we finish talking? Cuz that's how they grab 'ya.

I mean ffs where do we draw the line, we women? Do we just not ever leave our houses again? Then when they, whoever they may be, break in, do we say, well, you just didn't have a good enough alarm system, cuz that's how they grab 'ya?

That said, I remember that cultural moment when it became a *never do* around hitchhiking- both picking them up & doing it yourself. My mom used to pick up hitchhikers with us kids in the car no problem. Then we started driving past 'em. Made her feel really bad. We kids were like oh come on, just stop the car. >shivers

 

[Deleted member 718]

Usually, the murder following a rape is simply to eliminate the witness. Especially in this case, when Mollie likely could have identified him. Jmo she had no chance once he decided.

OT, I am not much for the fighter/non-fighter aspect; we mostly think of'ourselves as fighters yet circumstances alone determine who gets to fight back and who doesn’t. And some women have chosen not to fight in hopes of saving their lives. We can’t/shouldn’t classify victims, imo...

Yes, there is no shame if a woman chooses not to fight and possibly save her life. My mom survived a war never to speak of what happened.

 

[MistyWaters]

That’s true. I’m curious as to if it’s an actual trend, or just a perception based on coverage. Has their been a statistical spike? Or are we just more aware of it? I would think it’s the latter.

Well it would be impossible to calculate the mathematical frequency without knowing the number of joggers divided by reported and proven cases.

I agree with you, similar to the murder and disappearance of lone female hitchhikers, the reporting of individual cases over the years indeed prompts lone female joggers to become increasingly aware of the risk.

ETA For whatever reason, to the opposite, that innocent people are killed in motor vehicle accidents caused by drunk or wreckless drivers doesn't seem to deter people from the risk of driving.....