ID - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 50

[10ofRods]

Seasoned LEO/federal agent or not, It must be extremely uncomfortable/awkward to be inside of a cabin this tight, and 22k feet up in the air, with someone charged with a quadruple murder.

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Actually, those of us who do interview bad guys might welcome the chance - I would have, when I was younger. I love flying, that plane looks comfortable and if there were nice LEO all around, I'd love to sit and chat with Bryan. Even now. Building rapport time, etc. My curiosity about people like him is immense.

 

[SuzieQurious]

Before you call public defenders lazy, you should look into how many cases they are assigned. I carry about 20-30 active cases at any point. The average public defender in my small state has over 150 assigned. There is a physical limit to the work you can do on each case if the state keeps assigning you new cases with deadlines just considering the hours in the day. Not to mention they are then paid less than school teachers for thankless work for (often) bad people.

So if there is evidence, this seems to be a very difficult case for the PD given her ties to ID and she has also worked in federal courts as well as state courts. It seems this ID PD and also the past PA PD were very diligent and cautious plus professional. I am used to many PD cases involving misdemeanor charges. I do not want to make you uncomfortable, but if during the preparation or the trial a PD strongly doubts their client is innocent, especially in the case of severe offenses like murder, would a PD ever not nec sabotage their client but hold back or else sortof assist the prosecutor? Just curious--there was talk that this would be a coup if this particular suspect had a female PD. I do not know about the politics especially in cases such as this. Thanks!

 

[Normancita]

So what's everyone's guess how he came into contact with the victims?He sure doesn't seem the type to hang with their type of group.

I think he first came in contact with them by eating at Mad Greek.

From there I think he stalked them on social media.

 

[wary]

Moscow suspect Bryan Kohberger changed title of Hyundai Elantra five days after murders​

According to a public records request, Kohberger transferred a Pennsylvania title to a Washington title on Nov. 18.

WHITMAN COUNTY, Wash. — Bryan C. Kohberger, a suspect in the murders of four University of Idaho students, changed his title of his white 2015 Hyundai Elantra five days after the stabbings took place.
According to a public records request filed by KTVB, Kohberger, 28, transferred the title of the Elantra from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, which was registered on April 20, 2022, to Whitman County, Washington, on Nov. 18, 2022. Registering a vehicle in another state requires new plates.

Moscow suspect Bryan Kohberger changed title of Hyundai Elantra five days after murders

According to a public records request, Kohberger transferred a Pennsylvania title to a Washington title on Nov. 18.

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I believe that the registration had expired and needed to be renewed. So, possibly not damming.

 

[linds1393]

He will be in Idaho soon.

 

[MassGuy]

I’m sure he could get a book out… he just won’t be able to profit from it if Idaho has a Son of Sam law.

Yup. He’d have to use a third party. He’d make no money, but he’d enjoy the publicity. I don’t see a confession coming though, and I’m actually worried about suicide.

 

[Abagail-S]

Smallish plane, flies a lot more slowly than a jet. Has to stop often to refuel. What’s time to someone who’ll be spending the rest of his life in prison?

The flight landed in Champaign, IL to refuel. That was reported at 2:57pm. (CST) Here is the link...

WATCH: Pennsylvania State Police aircraft makes stop at Willard Airport

SAVOY, Ill. (WCIA) — A plane arrived at Willard Airport this afternoon and departed nearly an hour later. But this wasn’t just any plane, the FAA registry showed the aircraft was regist…

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[Curiosa20]

Mr Smarty Pants did not have to register his vehicle in Washington state, but being just shy of a full deck he must have done it out of legitimate concern, if not increasing paranoia IMO
First paragraph details out of state student exemption:

WAC 308-99-040:

 

[Twistinginthewind]

Interesting, may be the reason for the road trip. Change the plates to PA (if not already PA), leave it at the folks for a semester. With what he knew at the time, this could be seen as a solution.

The plates on the car when the murders occurred were PA plates.
He moved from PA to WA last August and hadn't yet changed the plates to WA.
He finally did change the plates to WA 5 days after the murders.
Then he drove the car back to PA.
AFAIk

 

[Erutan]

Do you think he will try to write a book about his crimes? I do not believe he would be allowed to write a book from death row. That’s the only advantage I see for the DP.
I still wonder if he may have killed before.

Ita !

To go from some stalking to a quad murder seems like an unlikely leap.
I wonder what else BK has done and just not been caught for, yet ?
Imo.

 

[wary]

Gag orders never apply to journalists, not in the United States. What will happen will be an order stipulating how reporters can cover the case from inside the courtroom. Sometimes they’re allowed to live tweet, and other times they have to tweet from outside the courtroom. Typically they can’t come back in until a break, so it’s inconvenient and leads to massive gaps in coverage.

If they aren’t allowed to live-tweet, I assume/hope that they can take pen and paper notes for later use?

 

[isabella88]

IMO, to be stopped twice, I'd say BK must have been following dangerously close.

He really wanted to get away from ID.

 

[Seattle1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610792424980242433

Nooo! She’s bursting my bubble!

Reporter is quoting the statute which applies providing there's no intervention by motion from the defense (or the prosecutor). Only the court can unseal the verdict and it stays sealed until the court says otherwise.

 

[makayla]

The plane is almost there! Yes, I've been watching too (retired flight attendant, although I flew commercial) ... this little plane has taken forever!

 

[ArmChairDet]

Do you think he will try to write a book about his crimes? I do not believe he would be allowed to write a book from death row. That’s the only advantage I see for the DP.
I still wonder if he may have killed before.

I believe most states have laws against writing books for profit as an incarnated criminal. They require the profits be given to the victims.

 

[Seattle1]

He really wanted to get away from ID.

Or out of Indiana!

 

[verbsandnouns]

Brian said that they will allow cameras in the courtroom, but they can't broadcast it until after they hearing is over. I'm happy about that

New to this forum and also unfamiliar with legal proceedings, so please forgive me if this is a silly question!

At BK's initial hearing, what should we expect? Is this simply to read the charges against him or will the hearing itself offer any insight into what's contained within the PCA? I only ask because it sounds like there are some questions about whether the defense will request that the PCA be sealed/redacted but presumably anything that the press records during this hearing is reportable?

Thanks for any insight here!

 

[Alethea]

Sorry honey, I can't come to bed, the single-engine bronco plane is inching its way across Idaho!

 

[eclecticcowboy]

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Not trying to argue, but this is far from a kit plane or a single engine prop job. It's a very advanced turbine aircraft. The prop produces the air for the turbine. They don't have the speed of jet, but are very capable and trustworthy aircraft.

 

[Jscre]

Honestly, from all aspects - both efficiency and security - the way they're doing this makes no sense to me. MOO.

I understand you keep saying this, but can you please elaborate? What would make sense? seems efficient to me….I’m sure all kinds of options could be tossed around