ID - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 51

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It’s likely she can’t, most people won’t reveal their sources especially in the media. We will hopefully know more today anyway in general.

yes thanks, I didn't expect her to reveal her source - to identify the person who overheard the conversation - but I thought she might help us work out whether it was just an inmate who asked BK ' why did you do it?' etc

It's hard to weigh all these anon sources. They seem to make-up most of the msm reports right now and I can foresee this becoming worse as time goes on, due to the gag order.
If we're supposed to infer that this was a formal interview with the investigative team that the source overheard, I'm more sceptical (For example, I 'd be sceptical that a correctional officer source can overhear an interrogator asks BK questions)
 
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I am literally shocked and disappointed, if this is true.

How can they justify sending lone officers to that car? They had no idea what BK's mindset was at the time. Or if he had a gun under the seat or not.
Depending on the date they identified the car, they may have placed a listening device inside (see Rhoden case). MOO. Unfortunately, cops are in extreme danger any time they make a traffic stop.
 
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Given BK's knowledge of the justice system, I'd be very surprised if he opts to defend himself.

MOO, he's much more likely to work closely with his attorney and be an active participant in his defense.
You make a very good point.
 
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I've heard something similar, but they can use their smell in conjunction with another sense, without manipulating the scene... Like smelling something coming from a container they see.
I've shared some reading you might enjoy!

If it’s a closed non-descript container I’d imagine the same logic would apply. The spirit of the ruling is that LE shouldn’t be able to conjure up smells to search through things that are not already visible with their eyes.

Otherwise I’d smell things in everything closed.

If it’s an open container with a clearly illegal substance or clearly visible paraphernalia then you probably won’t need the smell to begin with.

So it’s moot.
 
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I thought I heard Brian Entin say that the jail is going to try to accommodate BK's vegan diet. Can anyone else confirm?

If so, that makes me livid.

Why? Seems like a punishment!
 
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Idaho murders: FBI directed Indiana police to pull over Bryan Kohberger, seeking video images of his hands


twice within 10 minutes and then ISP released that potential evidence to the general public.


Hmmmmmm
 
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Depending on the date they identified the car, they may have placed a listening device inside (see Rhoden case). MOO. Unfortunately, cops are in extreme danger any time they make a traffic stop.
What if.....the ISP's were really FBI agents?
 
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SuziQ wrote:

"Scroll up. Fake news."

I think the jury may still be out. I realize somebody in Indiana LE denied the report about the traffic stops, but surely we all know law enforcement agencies have PR departments, just as large corporations do, and while I'm not saying individual officers are untrustworthy as a rule, I don't think every press release from LE is necessarily gospel. And who knows whether the source of the denial was in full possession of the facts?

We may have to wait for the inevitable true-crime book to know for sure.
 
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That’s a fake account IMO. I took a screenshot of his Spotify account within minutes of his name being announced and that wasn’t it. JMO
Yep. That's what I was thinking too
 
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MOO - Big question now Is why specifically look at the hands? I mean there is the obvious answer which is it’s the most likely area he could have injuries after stabbing 4 beautiful innocent young adults to death.

But why not ask officers to check for injuries anywhere… Face ? Arms? Neck?

The fact they specified looking at his hands is interesting. Makes me think they were told or passed information prior to stop, may not have thought he was even their guy yet, but needed to follow up with the tip.

Had someone on campus a student, neighbor, professor or other PhD student noticed an injury on his hand and noticed the white Elantra and potentially tipped off LE? The public was informed of the Elantra on the 6th or 7th right? The timeline adds up.

Was the stop potentially them following up on a public tip which specified injury to his hand?

Or like I said… maybe it was just the most obvious place to check for injury given the crime.

All MOO

 
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What if.....the ISP's were really FBI agents?
MO
This is what I think.
That’s why the ISP denied the stop. They didn’t do it.
ISP would have been better at knowing what the camera was picking up.
I seem to remember from reading :
Didn’t BK state in the second stop, that the first stop , 11 minutes before, was made by a black SUV?
And the responding “ officer”, not having a good explanation, said something like, “it may have been county.”
Anyone else remember this?

Edit to add. Who drives Black SUV’s. FBI.
 
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He parked in such a way that LE would have had to violate major principles of their own training to stand in the highway. I posted about it a couple of times. It's as if he doesn't know how to pull of the road. He leaves them no space to be on his side.

Doesn't matter - they want his right hand, anyway. And they get it. Eyes are eyes and sometimes a LEO sees more from the passenger's side (for example, both hands of the driver - which they are trained to watch carefully; Dad's right hand is never visible - but it seems to me that the LEO's are no worried about Dad).

They want to see Bryan's hands, and the angle to do that is from across the car - plus it's the only safe place to stand.
Maybe if this is true- LE wanting a glimpse of BK’s hands - it is after they isolated a DNA sample at the scene (awaiting a match) and surmised he must have cut his hands? I have been on the fence about the two stops being purposeful for all the reasons many have opined, but I absolutely did think he had something happening with the right wrist. The first stop was a fail with LE shoving his I-watch in his face the whole time lol and I suppose that caused the second stop- all moo of course. Can’t help but believe media is reading along with us, but re Fox, they are typically the last people to announce things without verification . Ie election results etc. jmo and experience
 
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MO
This is what I think.
That’s why the ISP denied the stop. They didn’t do it.
ISP would have been better at knowing what the camera was picking up.
I seem to remember from reading :
Didn’t BK state in the second stop, that the first stop , 11 minutes before, was made by a black SUV?
And the responding “ officer”, not having a good explanation, said something like, “it may have been county.”
Anyone else remember this?
I remember the officer saying "we don't have SUVs". I'd be interested to find out if it is technically still impersonating an officer if an FBI impersonates a highway policeman.
 
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If it’s a closed non-descript container I’d imagine the same logic would apply. The spirit of the ruling is that LE shouldn’t be able to conjure up smells to search through things that are not already visible with their eyes.

Otherwise I’d smell things in everything closed.

If it’s an open container with a clearly illegal substance or clearly visible paraphernalia then you probably won’t need the smell to begin with.

So it’s moot.
Actually, in the state of Georgia smell alone provides all the probable cause needed to search. So yes, you are right it is highly debated.
 
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MOO - Big question now Is why specifically look at the hands? I mean there is the obvious answer which is it’s the most likely area he could have injuries after stabbing 4 beautiful innocent young adults to death.

But why not ask officers to check for injuries anywhere… Face ? Arms? Neck?

The fact they specified looking at his hands is interesting. Makes me think they were told or passed information prior to stop, may not have thought he was even their guy yet, but needed to follow up with the tip.

Had someone on campus a student, neighbor, professor or other PhD student noticed an injury on his hand and noticed the white Elantra and potentially tipped off LE? The public was informed of the Elantra on the 12th or 13th right? The timeline adds up.

Was the stop potentially them following up on a public tip which specified injury to his hand?

Or like I said… maybe it was just the most obvious place to check for injury given the crime.

All MOO


Dec 7th Moscow police announced white elantra.
 
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Dec 7th Moscow police announced white elantra.
You are awesome! Thank you! I was just double checking it and editing it when you replied!
 
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