ID - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 54

Status
Not open for further replies.
  • #581
If suspect when back at 9 am was it for the sheath? Then why not go back in the house for it? You don’t see police etc. Maybe he didn’t realize it was there and just went back to see if police were there…
I'm torn between thinking he went back to retrieve the sheath or to see how big the LE reaction was to his deadly acts.

I guess it doesn't matter which one it is. What does matter is that it's incriminating evidence that can be used by the State at trial. JMO.
 
  • #582
It would only take one dog hair, thankfully, because I thought I read that Murphy is a doodle. Some doodles hardly shed, unfortunately in the case.
They are less likely to shed but they still do shed. Like you said, It would only take one dog hair.
 
  • #583
I’ve not seen or heard one mention of sink drains ever in this case.
It’s been mentioned in some of these threads but I don’t think it was more then a rumor or falsely reported MSM bit as so many discussions have been
 
  • #584
  • #585
I think a big stumbling block a lot of people are having is trying to use logic for the actions of some unstable person who brutally killed 4 people in a short period of time. No one who does that is thinking clearly and logically no matter what. This was no professional hit man or killer with dozens of murders under his belt. Unless of course he is linked to other murders but I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say these were his 1st kills.

This appears to be a very emotionally charged and motivated murder that three other random people got caught up with. I think he had one target in mind and then things got out of control very quickly. He wasn't expecting another person in the room, let alone two other people entering the situation. By the time he came across Dylan, the adrenaline was wearing off and the magnitude of what he did started to mess with him.

None of this was well thought out considering the mistakes he made. I'm willing to bet that he was in a certain amount of shock. His actions afterward seem to lead to a reaction to his screw-ups rather than a well thought out plan to kill one person and get away with it, let alone 4.
 
  • #586
I believe BK is deeply unwell. He has been sleep deprived, (his neighbour said he was up a lot at night, classmates said he looked exhausted) and I believe he may have an eating disorder such as orthorexia (major weight loss, gaunt appearance, strict diet). Add to that an awkward man who just moved cross country and started a demanding new academic program of study... and you've got the ingredients for a psychotic break. JMO, YMMV etc.

I strongly disagree with this and the post immediately above this one. But it is fair game to speculate and certainly plausible.

I think the murderer was acting consistent with his worldview, in a way that showed planning and intellectual competency, and was fulfilling his desire to take lives. He understood right vs. wrong and was calculated in his approach.

What he did is a representation of who he is and what he believes, rather than an aberrant state brought on by environment or circumstances. It’s not externally rational, but I believe it was rational to him. I don’t think it was emotional or a crime of passion. The evidence will likely show that he planned it out for a long time and carried out his plan to the best of his abilities, all while holding a job and tending to his daily responsibilities, and that he took measured steps afterwards to conceal the crime.

My opinion only as well.
 
Last edited:
  • #587
Question: Didn’t LE say they found epithelial cells in the sink drain, once they took it apart? Maybe Bryan was in that bathroom there by Dylan’s room, cleaning up real quick, before she spotted him. He may not have even realized she was there, still riding an adrenaline rush and thinking he was “done”.
I don't recall hearing that from LE, but that would be interesting if true. Do you have a link?
 
  • #588
If suspect when back at 9 am was it for the sheath? Then why not go back in the house for it? You don’t see police etc. Maybe he didn’t realize it was there and just went back to see if police were there…

I think he simply got scared and couldn't make his move because it was daylight out.
 
  • #589
Yeah there was a little bit of that, but LE also urged people to send them tips and info on him, and per one report I read, they got hundreds within hours of making that request. My bet is anyone who followed through on that was also told not to talk to the media, so they can be a potential witness in court. MOO

I'm not a lawyer but I do watch a lot of crime shows both fact and fiction, and I am 100% sure no one on either side will call BK's fourth-grade teacher or his ninth-grade friend as a witness.
 
  • #590
  • #591
Yeah there was a little bit of that, but LE also urged people to send them tips and info on him, and per one report I read, they got hundreds within hours of making that request. My bet is anyone who followed through on that was also told not to talk to the media, so they can be a potential witness in court. MOO
 
  • #592
  • #593
Dear @Gemmie,

Thank you so much for taking the time to set out the information in chronological order!

You are always greatly appreciated!
I am glad you found some value in my post. :)
 
  • #594
Anyone consider the suspect left the crime scene when he did because he thought LE had been called and didn't want to caught there? I'm talking from his perspective. JMO MOO
 
  • #595
It continues to astonish me how many victims (direct and indirect) there are in this case. The 4 young adults and all of the parents, siblings, boyfriend(s), roommates and every person suspected previously. The college(s), the town, law enforcement, fraternities, sororities. Now to add BK's family and siblings to that list as well. The list is endless. It's heart-breaking.
 
  • #596
I'm not a lawyer but I do watch a lot of crime shows both fact and fiction, and I am 100% sure no one on either side will call BK's fourth-grade teacher or his ninth-grade friend as a witness.
There's a big difference between being told you could be a witness and actually being called as one. It doesn't negate the fact that if you provide a tip to LE you will almost certainly be told to not go run to the media for your fifteen minutes of fame.
 
  • #597
I think he simply got scared and couldn't make his move because it was daylight out.
I think he may have been trying to see if LE was on scene since it wasn't in the news. Just a guess...
 
  • #598
Well...how about this? It has been reported in various media outlets that when he was arrested he allegedly asked if others had been arrested as well.

There is no real source for this.
 
  • #599
I am unsurprised that BK would own this knife, particularly due to its military branding. His intense interest in criminology, law enforcement, security/policing may indicate a fetish of the field. A lot of fetishists collect or covet military and police style items, even if they themselves are not members of the military and/or LE. Huge, bizarre red flag.

I work in this field, and when I come across people who are extremely interested (literal hobbyists) without any service background themselves — you have to wonder why.

They either didn’t make the cut, or wouldn’t, or couldn’t… or (strangest, I think) want to be attached to the industry for the power, control, fetish and/or other wrong reasons.
Ed Kemper. Imho
 
  • #600
Status
Not open for further replies.

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
65
Guests online
1,927
Total visitors
1,992

Forum statistics

Threads
632,382
Messages
18,625,521
Members
243,126
Latest member
HistoryMystery2004
Back
Top