ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 47

[Copper107]

It's about the kind of injuries. If someone gets a deep cut and the skin is pulled together, even with only a bandaid or using second skin, it heals very quickly. A scratch? it would depend on how wide the cut was. Things that take a long time to heal are wide wounds, since it needs to granulate and fill back in.

I had a typo on my timeline, it was actually longer, but to your point I agree. If LE got this far, this quickly, I'm sure they've got that very important detail covered as well.

 

[bestill]

I don't see that, but he does look uneasy and he may be searching the room for a familiar face.

I see nothing remotely like a smile. He's blinking more than normal when he first walks in. Made me wonder if he usually wears contact lenses and isn't allowed them at the moment, Like someone trying to see a little better.

I thought he looked scared and nervous.

 

[Fascinated1]

Although this lame brained criminal (BCK) had the police following him all the way to his family home in PA and, perhaps, even collecting trash from his father's meals. There were *so* many vectors by which they could have done genealogical DNA analysis to find him - I"m just glad they used GEDMatch early on, and that they *could* use it, as it means they have very good samples of his DNA.

Which does indeed puzzle me and I can't wait to find out what other mistakes he made (or how clever the forensics were).

Could they have gotten it from the ticket he was given for failing to wear a seatbelt? Where I am we have to sign a form…..

 

[10ofRods]

I just looked it up (after being shocked Idaho doesn't allow insanity defense) and it's only four US states that don't have the insanity defense.

You'd think he would've stuck around Washington for his crime just in case he wants to play nuts. I oddly feel as though that would be "below him" though. I think he's proud of his work

For all we know, he's like that guy who went to Utah in the 70's, I believe it was, and deliberately and randomly killed gas station attendants/convenience store workers (I'm hazy on the details) because Utah had the death penalty and not only that, I believe he specifically desired to be put to death by firing squad, which only Utah had.

He got his wish. I found his name:

Ronnie Lee Gardner - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[rsd1200]

Is that 6’3” & 115 lbs? 145lbs?

6'0 185#

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610372130461417472

 

[303gmf]

Thank you @10ofRods. I always learn a lot from your informative posts.

I do as well!
On every case 10 posts I’m in awe

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610374947066773504

 

[Tillyjames]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610374947066773504

That was fast.

 

[Angie777]

"There is no insanity defense in Idaho.

Mental health can be brought up during the sentencing phase."

That makes sense to me. Every murderer must be riddled with pathology. At a minimum, one would expect a murderer to have antisocial personality disorder, and many probably have other personality disorders plus bipolar or schizophrenia (or both) on top of that. None of that is relevant to whether or not the person committed the crime, but it could be relevant to deciding whether or not to apply the death penalty.

 

[justwannahelp]

Wow! He scares me in just a picture, can you imagine what his victims felt? Ugh!

He looks totally normal to me. I guess it’s g

They would be healed after 7 weeks. Plus, it would be virtually impossible for a small woman, in particular, to reach his face if she were lying in bed and he was hovering over her.

i measured this morning. I’m 5’4” and 118lbs. While lying in bed i imagined BK walking in while I’m asleep slightly intoxicated around 3:15am. My guess is he slit the throats of the first victims in each room while they were TOTALLY asleep then stabbed and sliced major organs (not much of a struggle to contend with).

Ethan was likely first since he was male (get rid of the strongest first in case you wake the second while killing the first). So now he’s got a small female in bed who is waking up but her arms are probably around 26-28 inches long (mine are 26) and while lying on a pillow in my bed can reach 58” (the highest point from the floor), but i have a bed that’s kind of high off the ground…. I imagine college girls’ beds wouldn’t be quite so high off the ground. So from her position with what looks to be a 6’1” in shape blood thirsty male holding a USMC rambo knife standing over her, she didn’t stand a chance

I’m putting myself in her position and i have experience with trying to fight off a male (most are stronger - sorry ladies, it’s true) with nothing but my hands and it’s almost impossible if you aren’t trained and are weaponless —especially if he has the element of surprise and a knife and that vantage point of being over you. It was likely VERY swift. A bashed in skull to subdue or another slit throat then stab stab slice slice and he has another dead victim and swiftly moves upstairs to his next target.

Again, the sleeping one was quick and swift and the second girl TRIED to put up a BIT of a fight or maybe tried to run - running was her only hope but it seems she didn’t get far enough fast enough IF she did indeed try to run

If he didn’t expect Ethan to be there AND he didn’t expect Maddie and Kaylee to be in the same bed then yes he really probably panicked a bit. Because if that was the case he never expected ANYONE to wake up. He thought he was going to find all 3 girls ALONE ASLEEP each in their own rooms so no fuss no struggles no one waking up because no one sleeping next to anyone…….

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I don't see that, but he does look uneasy and he may be searching the room for a familiar face.

I see nothing remotely like a smile. He's blinking more than normal when he first walks in. Made me wonder if he usually wears contact lenses and isn't allowed them at the moment, Like someone trying to see a little better.

I don't see an actual smile but that he might be fighting one and trying not to. I thought he might love those cameras and photo flashes, so trying real hard not to crack his mouth. Maybe not though... he doesn't seem scared to me.

You are probably right about the contacts/eye sight. I wonder if he normally wears contacts, I haven't seen any pics with glasses....

 

[layer]

Per Ted Williams on Fox News: Kohberger's investigators are currently at the King Road house reconstructing the scene. "I can tell you he is going to mount a defense."

 

[Cool Cats]

6'0 185#

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610372130461417472

Wow, look at this big rifle this officer is carrying behind Bryan Kohberger as BK is being escorted by other guards. Taking no chances with him.

 

[Curiousobserver]

Although this lame brained criminal (BCK) had the police following him all the way to his family home in PA and, perhaps, even collecting trash from his father's meals. There were *so* many vectors by which they could have done genealogical DNA analysis to find him - I"m just glad they used GEDMatch early on, and that they *could* use it, as it means they have very good samples of his DNA.

Which does indeed puzzle me and I can't wait to find out what other mistakes he made (or how clever the forensics were).

There is definitely a lot more to this that isn't obvious to me yet-

They knew to follow him but didn't have enough to arrest him. If they had had a familial tree that included him from GED and knew he owned a white Elantra he would have been under arrest.

If they didn't have the tree constructed yet then how did they know to devote the resources to follow him?

 

[Sandy007]

Gotcha. Not only a valid stance to take, IMO, but also a necessary one for some of us to take. In the days before his arrest, I had three main types of theories I was juggling and now have new theories about what will happen in this case.

I am fairly convinced by the high school companions (two of them) who have talked and been quoted by MSM as mentioning a serious problem with heroin. It fits with other things about his background, but it also fits with statistics about heroin use in our nation - it's more of a problem in high school kids in PA than I had realized. Where I live, it's mostly meth for high school students (and cannabis/alcohol).

We may never get any proof about his life history. Most of it won't be relevant at trial. So you may remain agnostic, which is an honorable thing to do. I think this guy will write his own story - but that won't be "proof" for me. I don't usually look for "proof," I am more about finding the best hypotheses (ones that may not have perfect proof, but have never been disproven.)

A never disproven statement is a fact, in my world, or at least the closest thing to it.

Every human child has two and only two biologic parents, things of that sort. That's never been disproved and is, IMO, a fact.

Do I know for a fact that BK's parents are his bio parents? Nope, I do not. But they are some kind of parent to him, as I also think it's a fact that all small children must have someone to raise them, and it seems they raised him and a sibling (according to MSM). I believe all of that. In my mind, it is a fact that BK's dad drove with him across the country, etc. If it's disproven, I'll revise.

The story could be written in different ways. Story is not necessary a book. Each of us every day, here, too, writes their own story. Some stories are short lived, they last less than a day, some of us write a chapter or two of their novel every day.

We may be surprised by his story, I am only guessing, but something tellls me that he is not that shallow, as we thought. He has not spoken yet and I am waiting to hear his story. And the LE story.

In meantime, keeping the mind open.

 

[OckhamsRazor22]

thank you

Thanks. He appears overwhelmed and vacant. IMO

 

[MrsWatson]

If he were alive today I'd guess Mr. Jewell would disagree. You never know. You hear about people getting out decades later after finally being exonerated. Sure not the norm, but it is exactly why we have the Bill of Rights.

Richard Jewell was never charged with a crime. DNA had absolutely no bearing on his situation. Also, many of the people who are exonerated, are exonerated by DNA evidence.

Quick link to Richard Jewell's case.
Quick link to DNA exonerations.

 

[ChitBrick]

PAcast

pacast.com

20:52

his eyesssssssssss

 

[justwannahelp]

One of his classmates mentioned he stopped shaving at that point. Maybe he had a few days between the murders and the next time he had to show up in class and the beard stubble hid the scratches?

Good thinking!!!!

 

[juliasalmons]

It was weird. Watching him, I saw someone who is scared and has no idea what is going on. I had a pit in my stomach like....what if it's the wrong guy?
Just a feeling but I don't know, it felt different.