ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 47

[schooling]

I was NOT expecting that.

The perp walk? There's always an entry that protects court goers from media view. So this video says a lot about what they think about him.

 

[Elley Mae]

4 hours before 3:30 hearing he’s at court?

Seems early

 

[cottonweaver]

I wonder if they even managed to get him in the police car at his parents house before he invoked his right to remain silent and ask for a lawyer.

5- 15 mins, according to this report

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[MrsWatson]

He looks like he has on body armor.

 

[Sandy007]

I wonder if they even managed to get him in the police car at his parents house before he invoked his right to remain silent and ask for a lawyer.

Yes. He actually spoke to LE for 10-15.minutes and only then asked for a lawyer.

 

[IceCreamSundae]

Just watched the video of BK being escorted into the courthouse. He looks very tall, maybe over 6 feet? And he also looks a little bit more muscular or built up then the available photos we have of him. Maybe he’s been training? MOO

I agree, he does look more muscular. It would be interesting to see if he had been building muscle just to be a stronger murderer (i.e. hitting up the gym 5 times a week for the last year). I don’t buy the <modsnip> description of him. I think he could have had a gf, but perhaps, if he didn’t have a gf, he was always aiming for those “out of his league.”

 

[SMK777]

Brian Entin posts video footage of Kohberger arrival at Courthouse:

mobile.twitter.com/BrianEntin/status/1610306055594037250/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1610306055594037250&currentTweetUser=BrianEntin

 

[EBW321]

All MOO-

I can’t help but to keep wondering what the motive here was.

I’ve thought about this a great deal over the last week.

Was he just born a brutal murderer or did he do it just to see if he could after getting caught up and obsessed with murderers and killing through his research and decide he wanted to kill others from this? Was it mental illness triggered? Was it obsession based on envy? Did childhood and years of bullying play a part to knock him over the edge?

I’m interested to hear what others think motive is.

Me personally, after hearing more about him over the last week…. I’m curious if these brutal senseless murders were research and career based.

I know it sounds crazy but hear me out.

As we all know he went to Desales for undergrad and one of his teachers was famed author and expert Katherine Ramsland.

We know from interviews with friends he seems to have struggled to fit in and was bullied often and struggled socially.

He was proud of his intelligence.

Proud of his research and career plans. Took this very seriously.

What if he studied what launched Dr. Ramsland career and success. Was envious of her success and wanted to be just like her. She is respected in both academia and in the public for her expertise in criminology and knowledge of the mind of murderers and serial killers. Has worked first hand with some of the worlds most famous killers and researched and written about them.

Again, hear me out. MOO.

What if motive for BK is fast track fame and respect from peers, criminology academia and the world for his research and help in investigating the high profile brutal murder of 4 young college students.

What if he did this to become the expert on the case? No one could put the pieces together better than the man who committed the mirders.

No one could frame someone better than the person who committed the murders.

No one benefits from knowledge and expertise of these types of murders than a criminology PhD students who is striving to achieve the level of respect and admiration as his former professor. After years of bullying and lack of confidence.

Committing these murders and eventually working himself into the research of them could fast track his career goals. Help him achieve the respect and admiration he so badly desires.

Maybe after committing the murders he realized he forgot some important factors with his mistakes which led to his ultimate capture. But also made it impossible for him to insert himself in the case and research it to become the local case criminologist expert….

I know it sounds far fetched… but when trying to consider a reason for motive that could benefit him in any way… (leaving out the possibility he did it purely because he lacks a conscience and had a desire to kill for no reason, which is still highly possible)…

But something about him… tells me he did this for a reason.

Most murders do not start off with a quadruple homicide. Mass murderers wanting recognition yes.

So why wouldn’t he start off with just one person? If indeed he did it with just a desire to kill based off his obsession turned desire for murder?

For me there has to be something to the fact he started off with such a large scale brutal murder. (My feelings will change significantly if we learn this wasn’t his first time killing someone) but for now… with only knowledge of these being his first time killing… I cannot help to wonder why? Why so many people at once?

It will be interesting to find out what that reason was.

Please share your thoughts. Am I overthinking it, reaching too hard?

 

[SteveP]

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Kohberger apparently threatening guards, saying “I cut them, I’ll cut you” “you come in here and I’ll cut you”

Discussed and DEBUNKED, multiple times. JMO

 

[cottonweaver]

split second glance in direction of the crowd/media before they start calling out to him

link for the screen shot:

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[NyxNY]

So annoying that you can't post a reply to a previous thread...

Anywho, @Mad Hettie

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Your post/question: Don't they have a female unit there? When I was a student nurse, every jail I went to train in had a completely separate area for women inmates and different times they could see the nurse and social workers.

IMO, from what I have been reading here, it seems to vary state to state, maybe even county to county. I can only speak for how it is here in the county I am from (husband is a corrections officer), and yes they do have separate tiers for male and female. However, she was more than likely just in "holding" pending court appearance and/or transfer, for which most jails have a general holding area.

 

[kittythehare]

Yeah, you’re probably right

LaBar confirmed that Kohberger is a strict vegan and that the Monroe County Correctional Facility is making accommodations for his diet.

Maybe he's not but I wouldn't be too sure!

 

[rsd1200]

For those who thought he may have cleaned up before leaving the house? I think so, and that was very likely his downfall.

Both 23andMe and Ancestry confirm your genetic information could be disclosed to law enforcement if they have a warrant.

Police Can Access Your DNA From 23andMe And Ancestry.Com

If you give a DNA sample to anyone - saliva, blood test, hair, etc. - you should expect that everyone else will eventually have access to it as well.

www.technocracy.news

 

[MrsWatson]

I agree, he does look more muscular. It would be interesting to see if he had been building muscle just to be a stronger murderer (i.e. hitting up the gym 5 times a week for the last year). I don’t buy the <modsnip> description of him. I think he could have had a gf, but perhaps, if he didn’t have a gf, he was always aiming for those “out of his league.”

Yep, he's not Brad Pitt or Jon Hamm (dating myself) but he's not some toad, either. Which makes me think it's his personality that was extremely off-putting to the ladies combined with thinking he should be with a supermodel. Also, we don't know if he has dated or had relationships because if this was one of my romantic fails, I wouldn't be bragging it about to the media. LE, we'd have a good old chat, though.

MOO

 

[cottonweaver]

I was NOT expecting that.

in what way? seeing him or the way he looks?

 

[Dexter12]

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Those arms......

 

[SteveP]

4 hours before 3:30 hearing he’s at court?

Seems early

Maybe they wanted to get him to the courthouse in time for lunch. <modsnip - off topic>

 

[everybodhi]

I wonder if they even managed to get him in the police car at his parents house before he invoked his right to remain silent and ask for a lawyer.

Bryan Kohberger Initially Agreed to Speak to Law Enforcement, Then Invoked Right to Counsel: Lawyer

Kohberger spoke with law enforcement for five to 15 minutes at the Pennsylvania State Police barracks following his arrest early last Friday morning.

Initially, Kohberger waived his Miranda rights but then requested an attorney. LaBar said Kohberger told him that police asked his client if he understood what was going on, and he responded by saying something to the effect of “yes, certainly I’m aware of what’s going on. I’m 10 miles away from this.” Then, LaBar said, Kohberger invoked his right to counsel and asked for an attorney.

 

[tlcya]

Bryan Kohberger allegedly tried to expose himself, taunted guards from Pa. jail cell: report

A fellow inmate told the Daily Mail that accused killer Bryan Kohberger displayed bizarre and disturbing behavior at the Monroe County Jail.

nypost.com

If this is true, it’s not how I was expecting he would be acting.

My understanding is this was debunked by Brian Entin. another inmate was exhibiting those behaviors, not BK.

 

[schooling]

For those who thought he may have cleaned up before leaving the house? I think so, and that was very likely his downfall.

Both 23andMe and Ancestry confirm your genetic information could be disclosed to law enforcement if they have a warrant.

Police Can Access Your DNA From 23andMe And Ancestry.Com

If you give a DNA sample to anyone - saliva, blood test, hair, etc. - you should expect that everyone else will eventually have access to it as well.

www.technocracy.news

Ancestry claims that police did not make their intentions clear in that early request.

Ancestry says it fought two police requests to search its DNA database | TechCrunch

The DNA profiling company said it challenged the requests, which were later withdrawn.

techcrunch.com

They successfully contested each and every subsequent request and no longer allow law enforcement access to their database. Which is consistent with everything that we've heard.

GEDMatch continues to be cited by most familial DNA work.