ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 47

[whiterhino]

Imagine waking up to glass breaking in your home at 3 am! Dogs barking? Mine would. Cold air and finding PST and or FBI in your home. I would have a heart attack!

Almost the same as what BK did to his victims.

 

[alex dvport]

The LE was talking too fast and BK's voice was too faint for me to really hear much without doing a full-on transcription, but I swear I heard BK say "WSU".

If he knew WA/ID LE were looking for an Elantra, would he have volunteered that he was coming from that vicinity?

Then I heard the cop say "Trooper?" with a question mark, and then a moment later I heard "County". My interpretation: I'm guessing that this was the 2nd stop by law enforcement (assuming BK didn't invent the first stop) and that BK mentioned the earlier stop to this cop, who questioned the earlier stop having been made by one of their ISP troopers, and then they must have established that the first stop was made by a County Sheriff's Deputy rather than an ISP trooper.

All MOO and speculation, based on what I think I heard during a single playing of this video. Subject to change

Were these stops planned as part of a plan to see how he would behave or maybe to put the accused at ease? Was it really just coincidence that he was stopped twice and ticketed neither time?

I thought the dad said WSU but I could be wrong.

 

[sleepingmonkey]

wow stopped twice and no ticket. Too bad there wasn't a bolo put out regarding this car and the plate number. I'm surprised there wasn't one.

 

[Cool Cats]

Bryan Kohberger harassed women at Pennsylvania brewery: report

Bryan Kohberger, accused of brutally murdering four University of Idaho students last month, frightened female staffers at a Pennsylvania brewery near his hometown, according to a report.

nypost.com

Several months ago, Kohberger visited the Seven Sirens Brewing Company several times, harassing the women who worked there, owner Jordan Serulneck, 34, told NBC News.

Kohberger, who usually sat alone at the bar “observing and watching,” stood out for his interactions with employees and patrons, Serulneck said.

The brewery, which scans everyone’s IDs, has a system in which staff members can add notes or comments about a patron that will pop up on a screen whenever the ID is scanned again, Serulneck told the network.

“Staff put in there, ‘Hey, this guy makes creepy comments, keep an eye on him. He’ll have two or three beers and then just get a little too comfortable,” he said.

Kohberger would ask women — staff or customers — who they were at the brewery with, and where they lived, Serulneck said. If the women weren’t interested, “he would get upset with them a little bit.”

In one instance, Seruneck recalled he called an employee a “b@#$%” when she declined to answer his questions.

Serulneck said he was forced to confront Kohberger during his final visit to the brewery.

“I went up to him and I said, ‘Hey Bryan, welcome back. We appreciate you coming back. … I just wanted to talk to you real quick and make sure that you’re going to be respectful this time and we’re not going to have any issues,’” Serulneck said he told the alleged murderer, who was stunned.

“He was shocked that I was saying that, and he said, ‘I don’t know what you’re talking about. You totally have me confused.’”

Kohberger stayed for just one beer and then he never returned, Serulneck said.

 

[sleepingmonkey]

And did you hear what LE said to them after they told him how far they were driving "Wow, that's a long haul. Did you guys hear of airplanes?" Haha, the same thing many of us on here have been asking.

I thought he asked "are you guys scared of airplanes?"

 

[JohnBull]

At some point we will likely see the tried-and-true Wal-Mart surveillance video that we're familiar with from murder investigation shows, where his is there buying cleaning supplies or disposal supplies. That seems to always be part of the circumstantial evidence that adds credibility to prosecutions.

And if he's really the disaffected type of killer, we might even see some sort of journal in which he's set down the reasons for his disaffection.

 

[Jealoushe]

I’m saying it just appears like he’s been deemed guilty for sure, (people going as far as to analyze a second of a clip of him honestly not showing any expression) but we have no evidence. I’m not trying to argue or saying it’s even WS doing this, MSM is sensationalizing this to the max but that’s what they do. I was more so asking the people posting analyzing his facial expressions Is there ANY posture BK could have had that wouldn’t have “screamed” creepy, guilty, etc? Since at this point he’s guilty in the court of public opinion.

Yes, the reason people are saying that is because that’s what we see. If we saw otherwise we would say so, I know I would and others actually have said things along those lines.

To say we can’t see otherwise because the media has a lot of presence and what not in the case is insulting to our intelligence and experience.

 

[crhedBngr]

Yes the cop was very relaxed/jokey even re comment about scared of planes - unless just well trained not to cause any suspicion he was under surveillance?

Given there was so much made of looking for that car too, or maybe they wanted to ‘spook’ him so he might do something like dispose of evidence when home, but not make it seem obvious they had eyes on him.

I still feel this was not a coincidence. I'm thinking there may have been a "Be On The Lookout (BOLO) and approach with caution" issued for the white Hyundai.

I could be completely wrong; this is just a hunch.

ETA: @sleepingmonkey : We're on the same wavelength!

JMVHO.

 

[PrairieWind]

It is, and it's just beginning. Ms Taylor did not waste any time. She knows what she's doing.

Totally standard.



I think we'll find she was appointed for him. If he wants to substitute his own lawyer, of course he will. But I think they wanted him to have a PD before his feet ever set foot back in Idaho.

An attorney could not be appointed for him without his prior approval.

 

[WingsOverTX]

Dirtiest white car ever. Trying to make it gray!

Dang, I'm never buying a white car again (lol). I'm not the meticulous type. Road warrior status for me! And the dust to prove it!

 

[Copper107]

With all the facial analyzing I’m wondering what’s acceptable when being accused of a quadruple homicide? I mean I can understand some of it but is there ANY presumption of innocence? JMO MOO

I understand your feelings of compassion or "justice." IMO everyone should be presumed innocent and not have their name and reputation slandered however, if a probable cause affidavit has enough substantive information to get an ARREST WARRANT, then said PC warrant is enough for the public to opine about that person.

 

[JohnBull]

Bryan Kohberger harassed women at Pennsylvania brewery: report

Bryan Kohberger, accused of brutally murdering four University of Idaho students last month, frightened female staffers at a Pennsylvania brewery near his hometown, according to a report.

nypost.com

Several months ago, Kohberger visited the Seven Sirens Brewing Company several times, harassing the women who worked there, owner Jordan Serulneck, 34, told NBC News.

Kohberger, who usually sat alone at the bar “observing and watching,” stood out for his interactions with employees and patrons, Serulneck said.

The brewery, which scans everyone’s IDs, has a system in which staff members can add notes or comments about a patron that will pop up on a screen whenever the ID is scanned again, Serulneck told the network.

“Staff put in there, ‘Hey, this guy makes creepy comments, keep an eye on him. He’ll have two or three beers and then just get a little too comfortable,” he said.

Kohberger would ask women — staff or customers — who they were at the brewery with, and where they lived, Serulneck said. If the women weren’t interested, “he would get upset with them a little bit.”

In one instance, Seruneck recalled he called an employee a “b@#$%” when she declined to answer his questions.

Serulneck said he was forced to confront Kohberger during his final visit to the brewery.

“I went up to him and I said, ‘Hey Bryan, welcome back. We appreciate you coming back. … I just wanted to talk to you real quick and make sure that you’re going to be respectful this time and we’re not going to have any issues,’” Serulneck said he told the alleged murderer, who was stunned.

“He was shocked that I was saying that, and he said, ‘I don’t know what you’re talking about. You totally have me confused.’”

Kohberger stayed for just one beer and then he never returned, Serulneck said.

His interactions with the female staff might be indications of his inability to relate to women specifically and all people in general. It looks to me as if he's trying to pick up girls and hasn't a clue how to go about it, based on this report.

 

[Twistinginthewind]

Hey.. Sorry if i mention anything which sounds silly. I agree with injuries to hands especially as it has now been said he wore gloves for weeks after the murders when out shopping etc to not leave DNA - he could well have been hiding the fact he may have cut his own hands.

Good point, I forgot about him wearing gloves when out shopping after the murders!
So possibly he sustained enough injuries from the victims fighting back during the attacks that showed on his face & hands & he attempted to hide from locals while he put up a "good show" returning to classes before he hightailed it back to Mom & Dad's in PA "for the holidays". MOO

 

[wary]

They may charge him with 2 of the murders and hold off on the other 2 so the first trial can flesh out what evidence and defense is problematic. They can then charge him with the other 2 murders. Given that he may play fast and loose procedurally, this would be a way to avoid him ever walking free on a technicality. Just my opinion only.

Would they really be allowed to do that? Hard for me to believe it.

MOO and I am not a lawyer

 

[katydid23]

Agreed. Didn't seem like an Officer of the law would approach a vehicle so carefree or I'm over analyzing...MOO

I agree with you. After watching the video, I am leaning towards this being a random stop, perhaps because of WA plates on car. JMO

 

[CLGM]

Catching up on posts, but just wanted to say that my heart breaks for his parents. IMO, he never gave them reason to think that he could do something so horrible. <modsnip>

 

[North_Idaho_Nony]

Is the Moscow Idaho Prosecutor, Bill Thompson going to prosecute the case against BK? I hope they bring in someone from Boise who has more experience.

Strongly disagree: Bill Thompson is an excellent, highly respected, & highly qualified prosecutor!

For instance, he secured the first “no body” homicide conviction in the state for the murder of Rachael Anderson.

 

[jjleroche]

With what dna evidence though? It’s open to speculation because all we’ve been told is that DNA was in the home. We don’t know the room, or where other than “the home” That’s it. I’m sure plenty of DNA was in the home. As far as the feds or LE tracking you from ID to your parents home in PA prove to you that this man is guilty?

JMO but this investigation was (and continues to be) a stellar example of what to do, and how to do it, in such high-stakes cases. This investigation could well be referred to in future criminology textbooks as an outstanding example of a successful investigation resulting in conviction. (Darn shame that inmate Kohlberger won't get the opportunity to discuss with other students.) You can be certain IMO, that LE and FBI have ensured that everything has been done (including tracking suspect to parents' home in PA) correctly, with evidence supporting their every move.

 

[JohnBull]

I understand your feelings of compassion or "justice." IMO everyone should be presumed innocent and not have their name and reputation slandered however, if a probable cause affidavit has enough substantive information to get an ARREST WARRANT, then said PC warrant is enough for the public to opine about that person.

Yes, the public and the judicial system are two different things.

 

[Friday Fan]

I still feel this was not a coincidence. I'm thinking there may have been a "Be On The Lookout (BOLO) and approach with caution" issued for the white Hyundai.

I could be completely wrong; this is just a hunch.

JMVHO.

I doubt there would be a BOLO without a plate number. Can you imagine a BOLO for every white Hyundai Elantra??

His plates were not from ID either.