ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 48

[kittythehare]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610460000077463554

 

[Strong1]

Kaylee's parents speak out. Not sure if this has been on here or not.

Parents of Idaho murder victim speak out after arrest of Kohberger: 'We feel lucky knowing we have somebody'

Kaylee Goncalves' parents, Steve and Kristi, react to the arrest of alleged murderer Bryan Christopher Kohberger and share what outcome they would like to see during the trial on 'Hannity.'

www.foxnews.com

 

[Friday Fan]

IMO JMO, another thing to consider is plain old gravity. He'd been in cuffs for hours, with those cuffs further clipped to a body belt. That severely limited - intentionally, of course - his range of motion, prevented him from raising his arms, scratching his nose, etc. Extremities can swell when confined to near motionlessness for hours. I didn't note any injuries on his hands or wrists in today's photographs. If anything, I saw refractive tinting on both from the vivid red prison garb he was wearing.

One less day now to wait for his return to Idaho and the commencement of the judicial proceedings.

But we won't know when he returns! It's all been gagged!

 

[kbckcern22]

I feel quite confident that if I were dragged out of bed by a SWAT team, in the middle of the night, and arrested for a quadruple murder, I’d be stunned and silent. Seriously.

Unless you did it! lol. I mean come on… eventually you have to come to terms that this will catch up to you! I think being pulled over twice on the way back to PA had him nervous as heck too. IMO

 

[branmuffin]

But isn't using an upthrust motion more dangerous to the one doing the stabbing? Especially in darkness/semi-darkness?

How? Most people who use the up thrust motion do it very quickly. Even if the knife blade is embedded in the victim they can cause grievous damage just twisting it or using the diaphragm as fulcrum and the knife as a lever.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Something is odd, bc they won’t reveal the first body cam . So what happened during that one? That came out before this gag order. I was surprised no one here has said much about it.




Brian Entin
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Bryan Kohberger and his dad were involved in another traffic stop hours before this one — also in Indiana. The Hancock County Sheriff’s Office is not releasing the body cam footage from that stop — because they say it is part of an active criminal investigation in Idaho.

Maybe father or son said something that could incriminate themselves or each other, or the cop spoke about the Idaho college murders, which I’m sure at this stage, we shouldn’t be hearing BK or his father’s response. JMO

 

[XtremeScorpio]

May I ask, in your experience, have you ever seen tactics like that used in a very high-profile, potentially dangerous case where they only wanted surveillance and not apprehension? It seems like a huge risk with no real reward.

Getting pulled over twice seems like a big coincidence, but when you look at the number of miles driven and the propensity to drive faster on long highway trips, it seems realistic. There was a time when my ex-husband received so many tickets he nearly lost his license. I was convinced he was the worlds worst driver. Then I looked at how many miles he drove over that two year period and while he did have a bit of a lead foot, it was statistically normal.

I'm responding again because I just remembered another situation way back in the 90s (when I'd regularly listen to police scanners).

There were FBI or DEA agents that were tracking somebody and they did recruit the help of our city police helicopter to keep an eye on the guy. Their communications were on a private channel. Other patrol officers, did not know anything about it, at the time.

So IDK, maybe it is possible that the FBI, or whomever was tracking BK, could have alerted the officers that worked that specific beat to keep an eye out.

Not saying this is what happened. Just saying it's possible.

 

[rsd1200]

You see matches whether you opt in or not!! I opted out for a few years because gedmatch violated it's own TOS and was still able to see all my matches.

Some people have reported seeing "funky" matches. However, I think investigators can hide their profiles, so others can't see them, so I take those reports with a grain of salt.

Can you imagine BK's family logging on and seeing some funky numbers and colors with a DNA match? I think not![/I}

BIBM
I do when I log on to certain genealogy sites, and I've never submitted mine.

Here's their individual data consent rules. It' doesn't apply to me anyway but confusing as all get out.

DNA Genetic Testing & Analysis - 23andMe

23andMe is the first and only direct-to-consumer DNA test that includes 55+ health reports that meet FDA requirements.

www.23andme.com

 

[Bhodie]

FYI - crying does not suggest someone is helpless. It is a normal initial reaction to being accused of something you did not do.

never said crying is an indication of helplessness. What I did say in that paragraph is that I personally would never approach the situation as being helpless. I do not think people who cry in high-stress situations are helpless just as I don't think people in high-stress situations who don't cry is in an indication of anything other than how they personally handle difficulties

 

[zoomom2]

Running a DNA test costs money. There are groups on FB that pitch in to pay for the cost for different victims.

 

[vls12345]

I am also interested in this question.
JME, from living near an international airport. If the Kohberger's house is on or near a flight path, there would be a lot of activity in general. If LE used aerial surveillance, it would not have aroused much suspicion in the household.

If you look at the screenshot and link I posted here...
Post in thread 'ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 48' ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 48

...if you then scroll through time periods around that plane which seems to be circling, you will notice (IMO) that there seems to be a nearby flightpath (generally from upper left/NW toward lower right/SE) of commercial airlines that night. MOO.

 

[megs1477]

If you don't opt-in, you don't see matches either do you? As I said, I've never been tempted to turn over my DNA, but without opting in, what's the point?

Yes you do. Opting in or out changes nothing for you. You either show (or don't) when LE uploads a sample.

If someone broke my windows and kicked my door in at 3 am....there may be gunfire. I am NOT a fan of no knock warrants. I'm sure there are differing opinions....and I respect that.

Following the Breonna Taylor incident I felt the same way. Since then I have researched a lot and I have seen a lot of danger LE encounters. I think many people forget LE aren't superhero's. They are average people. often making less money than us who also want to go home to their kids at night. There are many instances where it is not necessary (like the one I just mentioned), however, when you know a suspect is located in the home and suspect that person to have committed a heinous crime...how else do you ensure LE has the upper hand and is safe? On the other hand, I often wonder if in that situation, would they be able to convince my sleep addled brain they were LE before I started firing? I really hope so.

3 weeks after graduating from the academy, my son responded to a DV call. As he walked back to his cruiser to retrieve something, a guy frantically ran past him. A few seconds later, same guy turned around and grabbed for something in his waste. My son then heard yelling from "some guys wearing black t-shirts" a ways behind him, followed by shooting. The t-shirt guys were plain clothes Drug Enforcement (local, not federal) and the guy they shot down was a dealer they were conducting surveillance on. My son had no idea they were there - but why would he, he was a patrol officer - and almost got caught in the crossfire. Instead, he acted quickly and the guy ended up living (he took 6 shots to his lower body).

How terrifying for a rookie! I hope he wasn't too shook up by it. This is exactly what I had in mind when I was asking. So many uncontrollable variables...I would think the few people privy to the information would be hesitant to broadcast it.

 

[Rallodgnrl]

Well, maybe it was less about being a mastermind and more about dominance and power over defenseless human lives. In a matter of mere minutes, he killed 4 human beings, took their whole lives, destroyed families, and mentally impacted so many others while gripping a nation and beyond he wrangled in some power there and probably got a new high and potentially still is because he is in the Nations spotlight now. Being notorious is a heck of a drug for killers

Well, at this point, we know someone did.
Imo given the evidence we've received thus far it's irresponsible to definitively say he's the guilty party.
Moo

 

[XtremeScorpio]

Since it's already been reported that his attorney is Anne Taylor, the Kootenai County Chief Public Defender, I'd say it's a pretty safe bet!

I wondered about that too. I'm curious on where they would move it to, and why.

The Pacific Northerwest is somewhat of it own little slice of heaven in that alot of the news from MT, ID, OR, & WA is shared or combined. So, if they are requesting a change of venue in effort of finding an unbias jury pool, or jurors that are unfamiliar with the case, it's gonna be a challenge.

They'd be better off moving it to Kentucky.

MOO

 

[rsd1200]

He's got lawyers who have hired investigators and will get a trial.Too bad the 4 victims didn't get a chance.

I don't think he's been assigned a lawyer in ID yet, has he? I think there are only two options available as two of the four attorneys they call on, would have a conflict of interest.

Edit: Found it!

Bryan Kohberger's lawyer sends defense investigators to crime scene: source

Members of Bryan Kohberger's defense team toured the Idaho home where four college students were slaughtered on Nov. 13, Fox News Digital has learned.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Bhodie]

Well, at this point, we know someone did.
Imo given the evidence we've received thus far it's irresponsible to definitively say he's the guilty party.
Moo

I didn't say anyones name I did, however, say he in reference to the mastermind comment and that was in thinking that it is a he with a possibility of being BK but regardless of whom it is I do think it is a He.

 

[XtremeScorpio]

Yes you do. Opting in or out changes nothing for you. You either show (or don't) when LE uploads a sample.

Following the Breonna Taylor incident I felt the same way. Since then I have researched a lot and I have seen a lot of danger LE encounters. I think many people forget LE aren't superhero's. They are average people. often making less money than us who also want to go home to their kids at night. There are many instances where it is not necessary (like the one I just mentioned), however, when you know a suspect is located in the home and suspect that person to have committed a heinous crime...how else do you ensure LE has the upper hand and is safe? On the other hand, I often wonder if in that situation, would they be able to convince my sleep addled brain they were LE before I started firing? I really hope so.

How terrifying for a rookie! I hope he wasn't too shook up by it. This is exactly what I had in mind when I was asking. So many uncontrollable variables...I would think the few people privy to the information would be hesitant to broadcast it.

It spooked him but didn't break him. He seemed fine when he told me about it later.

In all officer involved shootings, it's mandatory (for our city officers) to go in and speak with department psychologist, and be assessed mentally and psychologically. Not just the officer that pulled the trigger, but ALL officers that were there, witness to it.

 

[katydid23]

I know this will sound strange. But his dad will probably treasure that trip. Dad's last trip with his son before his world got turned upside down.

Maybe, but it might also be very heartbreaking if Dad remembers that he was probably being lied to big time, during that whole trip.

"wow son, what about that shooting last night, right there in your town? That's something else...."

"Yah Dad, it's wild.... pretty sure that he flipped out like that because he killed those 4 students in the next town over. Good riddance..."

 

[heykiki831]

Oh, I agree.

IMO this Indiana trooper had absolutely no idea that the driver he’s pulled over was a potential suspect in an Idaho quadruple murder.

First, to my knowledge and according to the LE in my family, when a cop pulls over a car, they normally (at least in NY) position themselves towards the rear door, on the chance that it’s a road rage driver. Actually, any driver is an unknown entity at the moment and may possibly cause trouble.

For the safety of the officer, I have never seen and could never imagine an officer leaning into the car window like he did. Usually they’d ask you to “step out of the vehicle,” and they’d have a hand on their weapon in case the driver and/or passenger turned violent.

Perhaps it’s Midwestern niceties, or perhaps because there was an old
man as the passenger, IMO this trooper was very relaxed. Normal traffic stop, give them a warning and let them continue on.

It’s my opinion but a firm opinion that this officer had zero idea about Bryan. I believe he would have behaved in a much more guarded and self-protective manner if he’d had.

Not chuckling casually about airplanes and so on.
JMO

The officer might not have known, but he could have easily been directed by a supervisor to pull over any random car (“monitored by aircraft “) or some other BS excuse. I may be paranoid, but I’m convinced I’ve been surveilled by the men in suits before…they have essentially unlimited resources and always hold a trump card. I’m not going to get into my personal anecdotes, however I will say I doubt big brother was any steps behind.


Honestly they probably got dad in on it at some point and we’re just lucky everyone in the family was unarmed. Forget no knock warrant’s…the door was answered by both son and father. His dad was not clueless. He may be in shock, but that’s different.

It’s a shame that this sicko took tax dollars to fund his fetish.


I really wish I was an admin here and could track IP address and sort and filter new accounts created within a certain timeframe and location. I would not be surprised if this sus was on here.


I’m sure the men in suits are already on it.
Its a bigger shame that big brother is this big!

 

[schooling]

My theory of LE knowing Bryan’s name shortly after the murders and playing mind games with him through Press Releases continues to bare fruit.

Him and his Dad are pulled over on 12/15. Likely while being trailed by the FBI according to reports. An incredible operation that would only happen with suspects they are likely waiting to arrest.

On the same day LE mentions the daunting 22,000 Elantras they still have to sort through. Not only that but Bryan likely thinks his 2015 is not amongst those.

Anyone who wasn’t convinced before, this might be time to hop on the bandwagon.