ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 18

[Emerald15]

JMO Unless the killer had been in the house many times before. For parties or whatever. Familiarizing himself with the layout in the process.

Also, the rooms could have had night lights plugged in wall socket.

 

[citizen_sleuth]

Most likely unrelated, but I wanted to flag it just in case.

On November 3, 2022, Team Idaho Property Management called 911 to report a "disgruntled tenant" being disruptive in their office on South Main Street. Team Idaho is the property manager of the victims' house (Fox News).

 

[ifimmurderedjoedidit]

I would assume is came through the floor from the bedroom above.

Gosh. Is that common? For that kind of seeping? I saw the photos of it seeping through the cracks in the foundation too—that takes a lot of blood!

 

[10ofRods]

Is that also blood on the shoe in the box?

It does look like blood on the wardrobe door but it's bizarre how that would have happened. I wondered if it's arcing from when the offender has been thrusting the knife up and down?

LE seems to be saying they were killed in or near their bedrooms, not in the kitchen. I think that is just an artifact from the tree branch and the shoe label myself. There would be way more spatter in the scenario you suggest. IMO.

 

[Madison1905]

Ok, then. My top three
1. incel
2. a morality based local psycho
3.sexually motivated but unsuccessful

no particular order on these

THANK YOU! I always have thought this is #1 an incel but I don’t see many people mentioning that. My mind went directly to Elliot Rodgers in Santa Barbara. So I have always in hand, thought this is a younger guy.

 

[seemstome]

This is a great post (and distinction). The vast majority of people do experience that upsurge in adrenalin and related chemicals while hunting, we're designed that way.

There is a very small subset of people whose brains are different to the rest of us. The popular phrase is "cold-blooded killer." However, it's clear that some people do not react emotionally/with adrenalin to stimuli that would have the rest of us fighting, fleeing, fainting or out of our minds with panic.

I also agree that even one of the people whose brains are more hard-wired to allow them to proceed calmly in terrible situations would likely experience some degree of agitation/adrenalin during a murder, especially if it were their first. Killers like DeAngelo (EARONS/GoldenStateKiller) are rare. He was able to munch on his victim's food in the rape cases, and, perhaps, in at least one of his serial murders. I believe he worked his way up from that but had the ability to rape/murder and then appear calm to his family and, at one point, his LE co-workers. Rare.

I don't think this case is that kind, though. If you are right, then either this killer is a loner or was able to calm himself down in a steely manner very soon after the killings.

Psychopaths are born with an autonomous system that does not react normally to external stimuli and behavior, and their brains do not ‘light up’ in the areas appropriate to eliciting normal physical responses within themselves. They don’t get the same ‘feelings’ when doing something dangerous, criminal, violent, etc. as people with normal autonomous systems.

 

[Cryptic]

I don't think the parents' drug debts exist or have anything to do with this, so I'm using E as only student drug debt.

I think a drug debt possibility is inherently possible.

Even low dollar drug debts can become big respect / disrespect issues to dealers. And, as its been shown before: mixing even small debt, with drug usage by the dealer, with respect / disrespect issues can lead to things going downhill into into over kill violence.

There also seem to be indicators that could reduce the possibility of that potential motive. For example, none of the victims appear to have drug histories that could increase the possibility of contact with the wrong hard dealer.

Rather, possi le recreational drug use by one or more of the victims would seem to be light and likely involve a "light" drug such as marijuana.

This type of usage would not only reduce the chance of a "wrong dealer" debt, but the Moscow area of the Washington Idaho state line features two legal marijuana shops on the Washington side.

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[Celt1997]

Updated the exposure

Yeah, that's the kitchen. It's very zoomed in, but to the right of that cabinet is the lower part of the refrigerator door. So what you see is the lower set of cabinets, and the front edge of the countertop.

ETA: Still not sure what the lines coming off of it are, though.

 

[XtremeScorpio]

One of the images grabbed from DM inside the house. Is that blood on the cabinets?! (Added one with updated exposure.)

Eerie photos reveal inside the Idaho quadruple murder house

DailyMail.com pictures show the inside of the home in Moscow, Idaho, where four students were murdered.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I don't think that is blood. If it was you'd be able to see it running down the side of the top part directly above it, no?

 

[10ofRods]

Psychopaths are born with an autonomous system that does not react normally to external stimuli and behavior, and their brains do not ‘light up’ in the areas appropriate to eliciting normal physical responses within themselves. They don’t get the same ‘feelings’ when doing something dangerous, criminal, violent, etc. as people with normal autonomous systems.

Yes, that was my point. And yes, it's likely genetic. It's also possibly epigenetic or acquired in some people.

Primary areas of the brain involved appear to be the right pre-frontal cortex and the amygdala. Their limbic systems just don't work the way they do in the rest of us.

 

[mayhem911]

I continue to believe that LE has solid leads and is moving towards identifying who did this... painting the picture of that night as they put it. Remember LE has that 911 call which is like an ace in the hole they can release at any time they choose.

 

[citizen_sleuth]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1598381449232912385

 

[theonewithallthequestions]

One of the images grabbed from DM inside the house. Is that blood on the cabinets?! (Added one with updated exposure.)

Eerie photos reveal inside the Idaho quadruple murder house

DailyMail.com pictures show the inside of the home in Moscow, Idaho, where four students were murdered.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I almost thought that was a bedroom. Is that a white blanket in front of the cabinet? I also see a red sticker that seems to say evidence on it, but can't tell if that's on the window or inside

 

[Sundog]

Fox News reporter is Lawrence Jones.

Love the guy . . .

 

[Soulmagent]

Are you talking about the cabinets on the left, where it kind of looks like something is dripping down?

Is that also blood on the shoe in the box?

It does look like blood on the wardrobe door but it's bizarre how that would have happened. I wondered if it's arcing from when the offender has been thrusting the knife up and down?

So I also think I saw blood stains on a few photos' since the news hit the airwaves.
1. photo of the back deck with the dog bed / fur shows interesting staining, imo, It was a media photo .
2. one video shows an officer entering the front door whare the key pad entry is and it apears there are smears of red to the right of the top off the keypad entry. This was in a media video . I sat silent because i have not had then time to look for these links but i honestly think Grayhuze channel is where I saw those images and reports.
Anyway we should be studying all the pictures from the out side we can .

 

[Gizmo3]

The way the substance on the cabinets looks reminds me of when I’ve spilt something on the counter and it has run off the edge - it will sometimes pool on the cabinet door and then stream down like in the picture. Whatever it is, I think it originated from the countertop. Whether that is food/drink related or blood is hard to determine from the picture.

 

[x_files]

Psychopaths are born with an autonomous system that does not react normally to external stimuli and behavior, and their brains do not ‘light up’ in the areas appropriate to eliciting normal physical responses within themselves. They don’t get the same ‘feelings’ when doing something dangerous, criminal, violent, etc. as people with normal autonomous systems.

Psychopaths are born with an autonomous system that does not react normally to external stimuli and behavior, and their brains do not ‘light up’ in the areas appropriate to eliciting normal physical responses within themselves. They don’t get the same ‘feelings’ when doing something dangerous, criminal, violent, etc. as people with normal autonomous systems.

exactly how someone could break into a house with 6 roommates without fear.
The house was NOT isolated, and there was more than one victim. It's a brazen and bold crime.

 

[britinsussex]

IMHO the majority of the people wanting more information are not trying to help LE nor are they doing it for personal safety. They are doing it to get the gossip, the rumors, the dirt, the sensationalism.
Many of the media outlets and the YTers cater to this mindset for the almighty clicks.

You are so right! I have seen gossip and rumours on several SM sites that have taken off like wildfire!

 

[tara83]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1598381449232912385

That really makes no sense.

 

[x_files]

Psychopaths are born with an autonomous system that does not react normally to external stimuli and behavior, and their brains do not ‘light up’ in the areas appropriate to eliciting normal physical responses within themselves. They don’t get the same ‘feelings’ when doing something dangerous, criminal, violent, etc. as people with normal autonomous systems.

Psychopaths are born with an autonomous system that does not react normally to external stimuli and behavior, and their brains do not ‘light up’ in the areas appropriate to eliciting normal physical responses within themselves. They don’t get the same ‘feelings’ when doing something dangerous, criminal, violent, etc. as people with normal autonomous systems.

exactly how someone could break into a house with 6 roommates without fear.
The house was NOT isolated, and there was more than one victim. It's a brazen and bold crime.