ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 24

[kaley]

I'm not seeing it just updated. What time did they post it?

When I googled it originally it said 6 minutes ago. I think that was the video update? not sure though

 

[al66pine]

FRAT. PRES. SPEAKS*
(Pasting from previous thread) by @SuziQ
"I think he was saying that they have spoken and cooperated with LE. He has no obligation to speak to the press. And why should he? His name is already being drug through You Tube and SM. Others in his situation are being stalked, threatened and one spit on. So no. He shouldn't talk to anyone but LE. We, the public have no right to his info. Imo."
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@SuziQ Agreeing w you. absolutely, positively, no obligation for FratPres to speak to media.

Points of my original post re his We All Spoke to LE Claim:
1. FratPres is likely speaking beyond his personal knowledge ---(his stmt is virtually certain HEARSAY) ---as he likely was not present at ALL LE interviews w frat members, imo. Also w students leaving Moscow for T'giving break a few days after murders, likely imo LE has not interviewed ALL frat bro's (unless maybe by phone).

2. As it was a Tweet, reporter had to CONDENSE the stmt Frat Pres made. Soooo...what specifically did he say verbatim?
Gen'ly imo a reporter's Tweet is just a teaser to that reporter's story on another outlet. IOW, I do not give a Tweet IN & OF ITSELF much weight. Kinda sorta like a longish HEADLINE, not worth much by itself. imo jmo moo
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* the Tweet:
"Brian Entin
@BrianEntin
9h
Flag at half staff at the Sigma Chi fraternity in Moscow, Idaho. Fraternity president told me they don’t have surveillance cameras and have told police everything they know about Xana and Ethan being at the house before the murders."

https://twitter.com/BrianEntin?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1600260764270735360%7Ctwgr%5E55ae3a3c370ce8a1a44ff7eb11f58709797b86cc%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.websleuths.com%2Fforums%2Fthreads%2Fid-4-university-of-idaho-students-murdered-moscow-23.649223%2Fpage-22

 

[WildWest]

What student?

the president of the Frat is a student at the University.

 

[WildWest]

When I googled it originally it said 6 minutes ago. I think that was the video update? not sure though

Update was just posted, video was from yesterday.

 

[layer]

There is no indication that the house has been released but LE knows what they need for evidence and what may bring the family comfort.

They know now, but you never know where further investigation may take them. I'm glad they haven't released it. I could have sworn someone on here posted that they had back around the time the cars were towed off and the discussions about crime scene cleanup and demolition speculation occurred.
The Jeffrey MacDonald murder house remained sealed for decades after the crime, I think even after the conviction. But that is on a military base, I guess.

 

[Soulmagent]

There is no indication that the house has been released but LE knows what they need for evidence and what may bring the family comfort.

The whole sending items out of the scene without releasing the scene,seems questionable. If I was a Steve I would want the whole place preserved until after trial. I kinda really am on team Steve. JMO.

 

[Balthazar]

I noticed in pic of house before vehicles towed there is a range rover with dealer plate? Did one of them lease/sell vehicles?

That was K's "new" used car. She drove it to the house to show M that day. In fact, that vehicle was the main reason she was there that night.

 

[SUSAN ANN]

The whole sending items out of the scene without releasing the scene,seems questionable. If I was a Steve I would want the whole place preserved until after trial. I kinda really am on team Steve. JMO.

The statement did say the police talked with the families about this, so I’m sure they could have put in their two cents worth then.

 

[Tillicum]

That was K's "new" used car. She drove it to the house to show M that day. In fact, that vehicle was the main reason she was there that night.

That's true. I wonder if there was a tracking device on it.

 

[Soulmagent]

That was K's "new" used car. She drove it to the house to show M that day. In fact, that vehicle was the main reason she was there that night.

If it is indeed in fact ..I am gonna need a link . Facts trump everything and this fact would be of most importance.

 

[CSIDreamer]

The statement did say the police talked with the families about this, so I’m sure they could have put in their two cents worth then.

I noticed that. I'm sure all the families will be glad to get some of their child's possessions back. JMO

 

[Snoop Sister]

No. Just going to release personal belongings that probably are not potential evidence.

I would think the unharmed girks would need their books and other college related things as well as clothing etc.

 

[Strong1]

I have a question. I know that Kaylee came back to Moscow to visit and show her friends her new car. I also believe she had a job lined up in Texas. My question is does anyone know how long she was supposed to be back for? Also, had she moved everything out of the house?

 

[Astro71]

Not an accusation against Hoodie Guy but wondering if he was able to give LE some insight on their movements that night. After watching the Grub Truck video again, I'm thinking Hoodie Guy gave them a ride from the Corner Club to the Truck and offered to wait while they got their food and then take them home. I don't know if they knew him or not but for some reason they decided to ditch him there. They called someone else to come pick them up. MOO and of course completely wrong if they Ubered to the Truck from the Club. Unless Hoodie Guy was the Uber driver. It just looks like they all arrive there together and that he's waiting and fully expects to leave with them. He's been cleared, and if it's because he was the Uber driver I wish LE would just tell us that.

This is where I’m leaning now. MOO He arrived with them as a friend and was possibly making sure they made it home safely (maybe someone asked him to make sure they made it home safely?) They possibly argued as drunk friends can do and the girls refused his help getting home. They took a ride from someone else they knew and he ran off to his car somewhere parked to make sure they arrived safely. JMO

I’m leaning more towards a stalker of Kaylee’s who was known to her. Possibly a student who she rejected. MOO

 

[CSIDreamer]

The whole sending items out of the scene without releasing the scene,seems questionable. If I was a Steve I would want the whole place preserved until after trial. I kinda really am on team Steve. JMO.

The parents of Maddie, Ethan, and Xana matter, too. There were four people murdered that night and four families are grieving. JMO

 

[wary]

If it is indeed in fact ..I am gonna need a link . Facts trump everything and this fact would be of most importance.

I’m not sure what sort of link you’re requesting. If it’s that the Range Rover was Kaylee’s new vehicle, here’s one of dozens of links:

What we know about the 4 Idaho college students found dead in an off-campus home

The four University of Idaho students were remembered as two best friends who grew up together, a triplet who loved sports and a sister who "lifted up a room.”

www.nbcnews.com

If you want a link to show that that’s why she visited that weekend? Well, in my opinion, even if we had a recording of her saying that, it wouldn’t prove much—people’s motivations can be complex.

Either way, what importance do you see in it?

 

[nightowl2728]

New update from Moscow Police just now regarding the removal of victim's personal belongings today.

King Road Homicides | Moscow, ID

www.ci.moscow.id.us

Does it strike anyone as odd they would make a public announcement about this? Maybe they just want to give the public *some* info because they can't give us much else. Or is this a way to lure in or get some kind of reaction out of a POI?

 

[nightowl2728]

I have a question. I know that Kaylee came back to Moscow to visit and show her friends her new car. I also believe she had a job lined up in Texas. My question is does anyone know how long she was supposed to be back for? Also, had she moved everything out of the house?

I've always wondered about the latter question of yours; like if Kaylee was moving to Texas and back just for the weekend, would she still have stuff in the apartment? Like if not, I think that explains why her and Maddie were sharing a bed. But I'm also confused why the dog was still here... Maybe it was an inbetween time and she was slowly getting her belongings? Not sure how relevant that is, but it hasn't really be fully addressed anywhere that I'm aware of.

 

[Mariposa]

They know now, but you never know where further investigation may take them. I'm glad they haven't released it. I could have sworn someone on here posted that they had back around the time the cars were towed off and the discussions about crime scene cleanup and demolition speculation occurred.
The Jeffrey MacDonald murder house remained sealed for decades after the crime, I think even after the conviction. But that is on a military base, I guess.

I remember reading too about the Jeffrey MacDonald apartment being sealed off for years and years and even someone from the Military Police would come and defrost the fridge periodically. But as you said it was military housing and federal property unlike this house in Moscow, and all the residents with personal belongings inside were dead except for the suspect.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Investigators untangling the Idaho student slayings face a ‘daunting task’: Parsing the DNA

Victims' families and the public are growing impatient with police investigating the University of Idaho stabbings. But analyzing evidence could take weeks.

www.nbcnews.com

The search for whoever fatally stabbed four University of Idaho students last month includes examining an enormous amount of biological and digital evidence, a kaleidoscope of potential clues — some obvious, some unseen and some that may lead to wrong answers.

No suspect has been publicly identified, no weapon has been found, and police have said little about what they’ve learned, as the small college town of Moscow has become the focus of widespread grief, anger and speculation.

A break could come at any moment, from a confession or the thousands of tips submitted to police. But in the absence of a sudden development, investigators are relying on forensic techniques to tackle a case, in a time-consuming process that appears unusually complex, according to a half-dozen experts in crime-scene analysis and evidence gathering.

“This is a case that only the most experienced crime techs can solve and answer,” said Jennifer Coffindaffer, who worked 25 years as an FBI agent and investigated violent crimes. “It’s going to take a long, long time.”...