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'The white car is their biggest break in the case as of now.'
Not sure that's all that reassuring.
Not sure that's all that reassuring.
I wonder if the LE visit iS related somehow to E? JwYes, Conway, WA.
Eta Obituary for Ethan Chapin at Hawthorne Funeral Home
Is this woman credible? I am wondering why the Chief didn’t mention this earlier today?'The white car is their biggest break in the case as of now.'
Not sure that's all that reassuring.
I tend to agree. There are several potential reasons not mentioned in this thread though. Could be preparation to extradite a suspect or or prep for subpoenaing material witness. could be be investigators from prior Washington State attack even if they are certain the cases are unrelated, crossing t's and dotting i's.JMO, but I don't think the fact that one of the investigators is from Washington state has any significance, since my understanding is that the border is very close to Moscow, Idaho. I would assume that regional FBI and other LE could live across the state border, but don't think it necessarily has any significance to the case. They could even be drawing upon FBI investigators from across state lines but that have close proximity to Moscow.
I think the perps would have fled to Canada by now if that was their plan originally. So LE would be a little late to the border game. Therefore they must believe that the perps now think LE is on to them and may now flee.
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Idaho murders: Border authorities monitoring for Hyundai Elantra that was near scene of quadruple homicide
Border authorities are monitoring for a white 2011-2013 Hyundai Elantra that was in the "immediate area" of the scene of a quadruple homicide last month in Moscow, Idaho.www.foxnews.com
It’s better than nada.'The white car is their biggest break in the case as of now.'
Not sure that's all that reassuring.
I agree, some guy or gal has been tasked with Viewing video, another with pings etc. I believe they are just very focused on their needs. I think they know The Who. Maybe he is not in the area? Idk, missing with the car? That would be interesting.My thought is that is reflective of the type of work currently required (analysis and evaluation of data, identifying patterns and connections, comparison of data that day to existing patterns, identification of "outliers", enhancing and viewing surveillance, etc).
I suspect the White Elantra is involved.'The white car is their biggest break in the case as of now.'
Not sure that's all that reassuring.
If you're correct he (I assume male) will get caught. LE will leave NO STONE UNTURNED as to ALL contacts for all victims in the last year. There would be, at a minimum, some form of contact via all media available. By now they would have already nailed down a list of contacts/suspects and they have none. This is an individual who, if familiar with the intended victim, had no meaningful interaction with them. ALL THIS MOO.Yes. I agree. In the examples I gave earlier I was thinking this same thing, but forgot to add it.
It seems IMO that someone who believes that not only should he have a bonded relationship with a targeted person, but that they are in effect DESTINED to be together, may respond in one of several ways after he has decided to enact retribution on his target.
One scenario is that the murderer believes that his desired person WOULD have been together with him, but had been thwarted by the close friends and/or family of the target. Then those people become obstacles to gaining the affection and/or attention and must be disposed of, in order for the DESTINED and PRE-ORDAINED relationship to flourish (in his mind only, of course).
In this case, IMO he would kill anyone who was an obstacle and then kidnap his target, such as Jayme Closs and this recent tragedy of the Winek family.
That did not happen here, which is why I think that the object of the fantasy, whichever girl it was, had reacted to him in a way that was intolerable to him. Whether he was ignored, rebuffed gently or rejected completely, he now had an insatiable “need” to kill her. A mission that must be fulfilled. And since he believed that it was NATURAL and ORDAINED that they must be together, it HAD to have been the influence of her circle that thwarted their relationship. Whether romantic/sexual, or an idolizing of the person, everyone involved had to die.
This is my likely theory, although my theories fluctuate and I know it may be something entirely different, like the thrill killer with an opportunity.
I’m assuming this is a rental due to the model and the backseat passenger having a fit getting inside.JMO, but I don't think the fact that one of the investigators is from Washington state has any significance, since my understanding is that the border is very close to Moscow, Idaho. I would assume that regional FBI and other LE could live across the state border, but don't think it necessarily has any significance to the case. They could even be drawing upon FBI investigators from across state lines but that have close proximity to Moscow.
Hopefully, the Quiet Hyundai isn’t as quiet as we think.Let's just say that LE are getting ready to compile an arrest warrant (my big hope is that this is true).
SPECULATIVE ARREST SCENARIO
If they do suspect that a certain person, using a particular car, was involved in this crime, they'd want a stack of evidence t present to the judge. Let's just say the DNA results are not in yet, so what can they get?
First, they almost certainly have cell tower information from 3-4 cell towers in the area, showing whose phones were active in the area on the night of the murders. Figuring out this web of data was probably someone's full time job for the past couple of weeks. They cross-tabulated the cell tower data with various known person's whereabouts (including the victims, but also their friends and family). Perhaps one person thought to have been in the area did NOT have cell phone data showing him out and about, therefore arousing suspicion. They then subpoenaed that person's cell records, which show that usually, he has his phone all the time, uses it frequently, but was mysteriously absent from his phone for a time period on the night of the murders.
Second, that person (already spoken to early on) has now left the community and is not with his parents (if relevant).
Third, that person had a known connection to the house, and phone data show that he'd been there before. LE probably have a few phone numbers where they've subpoenaed data. These would be subpoenas that are kept off-record for the present.
Fourth, a Hyundai drives by the house but none of the cell tower data show a phone that relates in any way to a Hyundai - so there's a "quiet" car for whom no cell data is available. LE probably called every single number provided by the cellular provider for several cell towers, revolving around who was awake and using their phones on that evening, within a certain radius. Perhaps the Hyundai is revealed on other security tape to have obscured its license plate (as suggested by Otto). They sell covers for license plates that make it impossible to pick the plate up on cameras (these are illegal in many states, but that was irrelevant to the mind of the killer). I see these all the time here in Cali. That makes the driver/owner suspicious in my view - and in the view of LE.
Fifth, they have interviewed this person and there were consistencies. The term "POI" is hardly ever used any more. The man charged with the Delphi murders went, to my knowledge, from regular person to arrestee without any terms about POI or suspects.
Is this enough? For an arrest? What do you think? I think there's probably more, hopefully there's more (texts showing unwanted contact with house members or disagreements; etc. IOW, some glimmer of motive.
If the Quiet Hyundai, as I'm calling it, is obtained and contains the DNA of this suspect, they can place him AT the scene at the relevant time (of course, he'll claim he was in the car at some other time - he can go to court with that). But if it's his actual car and they can show it had cruised by the house on multiple occasions, that would be persuasive to a jury. IMO.
I'm sure you all can add to this and say whether you think this is "enough" or not. It would be really awesome if the jacket shown in an early Foxnews video (and posted on Yahoo news) turned out to play a role here. A long shot, IMO.
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No, there are literally dozens of photo’s throughout these threads of her Range Rover & it’s not black! MOOIs the black SUV Kaylees new Range Rover?
She is a reporter/journalist for Kxly4News in Spokane, WA. I'm not sure why it wasn't mentioned earlier. I just saw the tidbit and raised an eyebrow.Is this woman credible? I am wondering why the Chief didn’t mention this earlier today?