ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 30

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  • #401
Or pull a Barry Morphew or Fotis Dulos and use various sites.
I'm sorry if this has been mentioned. I'm new to this site and didn't quite know how to navigate it when I started reading about the murders 3 weeks ago so I may have missed some of the posts while learning my way around here.
Has anyone mentioned the killer could have been wearing coveralls over his clothes and cut-resistant gloves?
 
  • #402
He could also have stayed in town. Perhaps he resides somewhere in the thick of that maze (which is rental apartments). Many, many eyes on that house. MOO

Absolutely. If something upset him on that day, I doubt he’s running to Canada without more planning and supplies.

Border Patrol might ask him about that blood on him!

There are so many possibilities.

Leave Phone home. Go to Murder house, after get back to your residence and Phone and visit a couple sports sites to create an alibi. Leave phone and depart to discard of weapon and bloody clothes.

Opinion only
 
  • #403
At great cost to civil liberties.

JMHO
That's what smartphones are basically for now. Can be used to track someone in near real time.
I do wonder how many people even think about all the ways people can be tracked now.
 
  • #404
I'm sorry if this has been mentioned. I'm new to this site and didn't quite know how to navigate it when I started reading about the murders 3 weeks ago so I may have missed some of the posts while learning my way around here.
Has anyone mentioned the killer could have been wearing coveralls over his clothes and cut-resistant gloves?

Welcome all new members :)
 
  • #405
This is likely a really dumb question… but based on the image of the car at the petrol station, am I correct in assuming the following based on the direction of the car in the image…

- if the car is on White Ave then it’s travelling WEST towards Troy Rd/Styner Ave

- if the car is on Troy Rd then the car is travelling South-East towards the McDonalds and Subway

? Camera’s don’t do some weird image flip thing do they? Because if that’s the case than we would surely have the direction of travel for certain for either White or Troy. It would also mean my earlier theory was incorrect.
To quote the great Carl Sagan, “Science is a Candle in the Dark, there are naive questions, tedious questions, ill-phrased questions, questions put after inadequate self-criticism. But every question is a cry to understand the world. There is no such thing as a dumb question.”

One who never asks either knows everything or nothing.
 
  • #406
See more and more crimes with knives.

A Car Jacking in Atlanta - dead car owner.
 
  • #407
Thats how a serial killer works. They do really creepy weird things that couldnt even be imagined by normal society. Israel Keyes interviews really freaked me out. Couldnt listen to it. Everybody in the tornado affected areas, be safe. I'm having a thunderstorm from hell here. I still have power. lol
Well stated. Killers such as this one most assuredly dwell in the abstract. Most people have no desire or plan to kill ONE human being, let alone four.
 
  • #408
Yes, In the very beginning, I said it’s a circuitous route.

They aren’t coming from 1122 unless he’s changing direction, getting a phone, creating an alibi, or getting supplies, etc.

He comes from the other way. He’s going west towards Styner, as it looks.

To understand, forget 1122.

Look up 802 Troy Rd on a map.

He’s coming from Safeway area and going West. He goes past the Mobil and if he goes across Rt. 8 he would hit Styner and be going Towards 1122.

Speculation is that he turned R or L and either went North / NW going away, OR turned S / SE and came back towards the Frat Houses, etc and quickly took a side street of Rt 8.

We don’t know. The Car could not be involved, or I can think of 30 things someone would do. Maybe he had to think and calm down.

And these places are all just a few mins away, you’re talking 8-9 mins to go to spot X and turn around.

Styner ave ends at Rt 8. If you take it there, you’re headed towards 1122.

And there’s the timeline, someone posted tonight, the 3-4 originated with the Mayor.

MOO
I know this town and layout of the house better than my own lol. Is it possible the image is reversed and he went east leaving 1122 through styner to white? If hes leaving 1122 at 345am this route is nuts. Looks like hes lost unless he went south on purpose perhaps to dispose of evidence. Any public bathrooms nearby to 802?
 
  • #409
NO

They closed down for the day after the unnamed overnight assistant manager blabbed to press. At least, that’s my understanding.

Yet another inconvenience for locals. Deep sigh.

Moo.
I wouldn't be surprised if she was terminated. Most companies have policies that forbid employees from speaking to the media unless they have been approved to speak with the media. Companies have designated spokespersons who are trained to speak to the media. Although she may be responsible for a major tip for the police, she should have followed a chain of command. Where I worked, I was the media spokesperson for a chain of retail stores. In the employees' manual of how to handle an emergency situation, it said that if the police are called, they must call their district manager and call me. Then, in the district manager's procedures, it said that they are to call their Vice President and call me if the employee hasn't already called me. Regardless of what time of day or night it was, I went to EVERY crime scene or location that resulted in the police being called.
 
  • #410
Someone earlier in the thread claimed that the person or persons in the Hyundai might not know to come forward because it’s not being talked about nationally.

With all due respect to that poster. You’re fee to express your view. Now I am going to express mine.

That’s just makes no sense. I live in a different state and I’ve seen all the cable news networks fox,cnn,msnbc etc talk about this Idaho murder case every day since it has happened. My local news stations briefly talks about these murders when there’s an update, my local stations have had various shows dedicated to talking about these Idaho murders like the dr. Phil show. My local papers have talked about these Idaho murders almost every day maybe not front page but it still there. Youtube has constant videos that pop up about these Idaho murders. Then you have all the social media like Twitter, Facebook etc. that talks about these Idaho murders with new posts and videos. In addition Facebook even has a message board dedicated to the Idaho murders. I mean the internet in general that brings up all the hottest new stories including the Idaho murders

So unless that person and or persons in the white Hyundai are living under a rock; that person or persons know they are being called upon to come forward.


At first I thought this could just be an innocent witness who may have saw some important things about what they saw on Nov 13 driving near the murder scene. However, I am now leaning toward this being the killer and or killers being in this white Hyundai seen near the murder scene since it been 7 or 8 days since these news bulletins have been put out and they have not come forward. JMO!
 
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Is it just me, or is that a white Hyundai seen on Google maps on Hanson Ave, a side road next to the gas station where the photo was taken?!!!
If you're talking about the white car at the end of the road on Hanson Ave, then I also thought it might be an Elantra parked behind a truck, but about a half hour later I was able to look at the rear of the car and read the word "Altima" and saw what looked like a Nissan logo. I also saw another white car on Hanson Ave, but couldn't tell what the make and model were, as it only shows up momentarily when you are near the intersection with White Ave on Google Maps street view.
 
  • #413
I know this town and layout of the house better than my own lol. Is it possible the image is reversed and he went east leaving 1122 through styner to white? If hes leaving 1122 at 345am this route is nuts. Looks like hes lost unless he went south on purpose perhaps to dispose of evidence. Any public bathrooms nearby to 802?
The image looks like there’s an open lane on the side closest to the Camera.

That means he’s traveling West ostensibly on White Ave.

But, Trips don’t have to be X —- X

X — Y — X

There are public bathrooms but one might think he’d opt for a wooded area.
 
  • #414
I saw that in my ‘walk’ around google street. Pretty sure it’s a Hyundai Voloster.
I think they're speaking of the white sedan parked at the end of Hanson in the circle. It's a Nissan Altima, but the profile is quite close to that of an Elantra.
 
  • #415
It looks like there are several businesses around the gas station. Hopefully they are able to get more footage from them. Fingers crossed this will lead to an arrest!
Where is this still frame of a CCTV video taken?
Address of Mobile Food Mart on front of the store doors from news footage is 802 Troy Road.
Comparing photo to Google Earth the best match is a camera on the NW corner of the Mobile Food Mart at 802 Troy Rd near the entrance to the car wash, on the back east side of store
This is what I see in pic that looks the same
- road is two lane
- road appears two way
- sidewalk to the bottom south of the photo is new and light compared to asphalt drive
- wide light new sidewalk behind the car looks like the new concreted corner of the bike lane
See Google Earth for White Ave and Hanson Ave, north side of Mobile Food Mart

Car is on White Ave west of the intersection of White Ave and Hanson Ave- headed west toward Troy Road (hwy 8)
That is headed TO Hwy 8 toward the crime scene rather than AWAY from the crime scene.

Fox News Article
“The car drove by "real quick," she said, and turned down a side street off Highway 8.”

Characterizing this as speeding away from the scene at 3:45AM isn‘t accurate from this photo

JMO
 
  • #416
What do you suppose was the motive for this heinous crime?
 
  • #417
IMO, the car is very likely the white elantra. I highly doubt the police would be placing crime scene tape around the gas station and gathering hours of video evidence from there otherwise.

source:
The car is going west, toward and not away from the crime scene
It doesn’t look like an Hyundai Elantra, looks like a Toyota Prius
That isn‘t crime scene tape it is construction tape
That tape isn’t around the store, maybe a pump is under construction?

JMO- unlikely
 
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What do you suppose was the motive for this heinous crime?
While all people are capable of anger, jealousy, hurt, despair, few among us would obsess such emotions into justification for physical harm, much less a horrific murder or four
I cannot imagine how a person could reach a justification for murder.

At a month out this doesn’t strike me as disorganized or reactive
It strikes me as organized, obsessed, planned
Maybe thrill of the game/ hunt of prey?

If we take out the reality of the pain and suffering, aren’t we all in True Crime for the intellectual stimulation, problem solving, motivated by frustration and anger toward perps, sense of justice, and need to feel safe in our own homes and lives?

Twist that backwards and you get thrill of the game/ hunter of prey seeking justice

JMO
 
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