ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 32

[Sister Golden Hair]

I think this is very possible. I’m not a killer, but if I were to commit this crime, I wouldn’t drive my car right up to the house. It feels too closed in and I could become trapped if caught in the act. I would do as you suggested-park someplace in the vicinity with an easy escape route and walk to the house. The car can even be abandoned if possible and picked up later. I would also avoid driving my car too close to the house to avoid any possible cameras.

looks like the three of us could take on a life of crime together, because that's what I'd do, too. I would never have driven through town though. imo

 

[Sister Golden Hair]

That would have been the way to do it...if you're from pullman. This perp might be from some area east of moscow.

even if you're not from pullman. actually, even better if you're not from pullman. probably in the case of quadruple murder, the direct route home might not be the best. I'd get lost in the crowd, then disappear again. imo. drive to pullman, large enough esp that weekend with all the extra cars, get lost in a traffic crowd, go quietly. imo

editing to add; even if you were from east of Moscow, stash your real car in pullman, get to it via
sand rd. with no cameras, grab your real car, drive through pullman onto Moscow, drive east. much easier to fade away that way. it's not like the biggest concern after a quadruple murder is gas mileage imo.

 

[CeeMDubs]

And money where mouth is, I did a quick facial recognition search using pimeyes, and turned up hundreds of different photos of that person. IMO that same approach could be used for others. creepy, right? imo it's hecka creepy.

Super creepy! Yikes. I uploaded a pic of Kaylee on PimEyes and a ton of pictures showed up. I had no idea that existed and I’m thoroughly creeped out.

 

[DizzyB]

looks like the three of us could take on a life of crime together, because that's what I'd do, too. I would never have driven through town though. imo

I’d park behind by the apartments, and walk through. Not sure if I’d be caught on camera leaving the street, though.

 

[Sister Golden Hair]

I’d park behind by the apartments, and walk through. Not sure if I’d be caught on camera leaving the street, though.

that gray house camera would be a concern, and ditto with all the apartments, people could be coming/going at weird unpredictable hours.

 

[margarita25]

One thing I want to mention (again) is how VERY CLOSEBY some of these perps turn out to be in other cases, I have a tendency to think the same is true here, but who knows.

 

[nightrider17]

Person watching grubtruck feed recognises K & M and already knows where they live.

Asks person with Elantra to drop them off at " a street" and arrange for them to pick up again in " x minutes" in "b street" no phone required all prearranged.


Person walks through back area of property and commits crime and meets their prearranged pick up at different location that he now walks to.

Accomplice may not be aware of who/what POI was doing but is speeding towards property because the prearranged time is close and worried they would be late. Accomplice could be female.

Maybe Elantra is now off on holidays visiting relatives far away.

All my own pondering. MOO

 

[GhostGhost]

White Elantra

Moscow Police language has changed, I saw the Captain (shaved head) and he said:

We are confident that the occupant or occupants of that vehicle have information that’s critical to this investigation.


He didn’t say “may.”

They have that car at the Murder house in suspicious circumstances, IMO.

MOO.

 

[Sister Golden Hair]

Super creepy! Yikes. I uploaded a pic of Kaylee on PimEyes and a ton of pictures showed up. I had no idea that existed and I’m thoroughly creeped out.

THANK YOU!! I feel validated because people at work do not understand why I don't supply photos and allow my name to be put out into the wild blue yonder, but no way. so thank you for being creeped to with me. imo too much risk, too little reward. I'll take fortune, they can keep the fame lol.

 

[Dotta]

"Investigators traveled at least 24 miles to the east of Moscow, Idaho, to the nearby towns of Troy and Kendrick to acquire surveillance video in relation to the quadruple homicide of four University of Idaho students."

Idaho murders: Investigators traveled at least 24 miles to collect surveillance video related to the killings

Investigators hunting the person responsible for brutally murdering four University of Idaho students traveled miles outside of Moscow to track down surveillance video.

www.foxnews.com

 

[GhostGhost]

It’s like four minutes, if that, if he takes Walenta to Ridge and comes out on W. Palouse River Drive

West Palouse River drive can take him way east where they weren’t looking - 5 min drive.

 

[rahod1]

A local could potentially scan the food truck for people of “interest.” Customers of the food truck had to wait for their food to be cooked (K&M were there for about 10-15 minutes if I recall correctly.) That gives enough time for a local to spot someone on the cameras and make it to the truck before they left. IMO

So, once they spot a *person of interest*, this alleged *stalker* then decides to kill them and follows their ride home. NOT KNOWING ANYTHING about the home (lay out inside) or if any OTHER PEOPLE are there as well. OK...THEN....
they got more than they bargained for and kill two more. That's really stretching the *RAZOR* analysis. MOO

 

[rahod1]

Person watching grubtruck feed recognises K & M and already knows where they live.

Asks person with Elantra to drop them off at " a street" and arrange for them to pick up again in " x minutes" in "b street" no phone required all prearranged.


Person walks through back area of property and commits crime and meets their prearranged pick up at different location that he now walks to.

Accomplice may not be aware of who/what POI was doing but is speeding towards property because the prearranged time is close and worried they would be late. Accomplice could be female.

Maybe Elantra is now off on holidays visiting relatives far away.

All my own pondering. MOO

LOT of assumptions there. I don't see it that way. MOO

 

[dotr]

 

[Kalaby]

goto the Moscow PD page and there's a ton of info thats always asked here

Thanks. I went to the Moscow PD page and in their summary section of the homicides it states, “At approximately 1:45 a.m., Ethan and Xana are believed to have returned to the residence at 1122 King Road.”

Not sure if there’s been anything more concrete than that issued by LE, but that‘s what I was getting at with my original question. What makes LE “believe“ that they returned to the residence at approximately 1:45 am?

 

[24Brix]

It is a common inference in the world of LE that if a murder victim’s face is covered up, it possibly indicates the killer knew the victim.

Could one of the victims have been covered with a sheet over their face, hence the reference to this possibly being a “targeted” incident?

I don’t think it’s particularly likely considering there were four victims, but throwing it out there.

By the same token, I believe that postmortem positioning of the body — placing a pillow under the victim’s head, tucking them in, or brushing their hair out of their face, or “modesty posing”, for example — acts of compassion or remorse, as bizarre as that may seem — can indicate the person who killed them was not a stranger and perhaps had some degree of intimacy with the victim. Not that I think that happened with any of the victims in this case. (I lean towards a casual acquaintance only briefly known. Plus it seems the rage was just too great for even a moment of second-thoughts or regret.) But unless family leaks info about positioning or covered faces it’s something we’ll never know until an AA is released. But the A has to come before the AA. And hopefully sooner rather than later.

MOO.

 

[Sister Golden Hair]

It’s like four minutes, if that, if he takes Walenta to Ridge and comes out on W. Palouse River Drive

West Palouse River drive can take him way east where they weren’t looking - 5 min drive.

only thing is, if he takes Palouse east, he'll hit a camera at 95.

 

[margarita25]

I see all the footage and all the windows from other buildings that look to the house and it seems overwhelmingly noteworthy. But obviously LE would be checking every single neighbor. I still wonder though, did someone watch them from their own house. Maybe they zoom in from a little further away.

Again, LE would be checking all neighbors, but what if this person doesn’t raise alarm bells, like Richard Allen in Abby’s and Libby’s case for example. If someone acts normal upon a canvas, has no criminal record, etc., then unless LE gets a spidey-sense....or maybe they’re approaching it as every single person who’s a neighbor is a suspect unless an alibi can be confirmed, so maybe they’re approaching it that way, which is probably more likely.

I’m repeating myself, but every single time I see all the windows looking at that house it really makes me wonder.

 

[margarita25]

By the same token, I believe that postmortem positioning of the body — placing a pillow under the victim’s head, tucking them in, or brushing their hair out of their face, or “modesty posing”, for example — acts of compassion or remorse, as bizarre as that may seem — can indicate the person who killed them was not a stranger and perhaps had some degree of intimacy with the victim. Not that I think that happened with any of the victims in this case. (I lean towards a casual acquaintance only briefly known. Plus it seems the rage was just too great for even a moment of second-thoughts or regret.) But unless family leaks info about positioning or covered faces it’s something we’ll never know until an AA is released. But the A has to come before the AA. And hopefully sooner rather than later.

MOO.

Indeed, which is again why I think one reason the 911 call is not released is because it may provide details as to this exact thing, the positioning of the bodies.

 

[Janitor101]

So, once they spot a *person of interest*, this alleged *stalker* then decides to kill them and follows their ride home. NOT KNOWING ANYTHING about the home (lay out inside) or if any OTHER PEOPLE are there as well. OK...THEN....
they got more than they bargained for and kill two more. That's really stretching the *RAZOR* analysis. MOO

Not only that, but the suspect has to carefully dress in his hazmat suit, sharpen his knife, find his gloves, and tie Wal-Mart bags around his feet. This crime requires a bit more time and preplanning rather than a hurried, split second decision.