ID - DeOrr Kunz Jr, 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #10

[KayCherry]

Wow! What a mess.The grandma clearly loves her daughter and is trying to be supportive over the loss of Deorr. I dont think there is a manual for how to comfort your daughter when her 2 year old vanishes. They think he was abducted and then they search in the woods. ya know.. they have no idea what to do. JMO. There just may never be a resolution to this. Everyone in the video looks broken. The parents seem so YOUNG! Just rambling here but seeing the video rattled me. MOO Sadly, the window of opportunity to really get the word out has passed, imo.

Thanks... bothers me when Grandma says "we have become silent....to keep the spotlight" that doesn't make any sense to me. IMO would have to remain "loud" and aggressive to keep all interested and finding the solution. Silence is golden is allI remember.... I pray little Deorr is at peace, not sure about abduction theory, I weigh less on that.

 

[wondering25]

Well they did do the one interview and that surely did come back to bite them. I think they have been advised to do nothing. But in writing this who would say that? Say nothing???

I am thinking of Dylans Mother and Kyrons Mother. They never give up and they appear anytime that can get a headline and their childs name, picture on the news.

This one is surely very strange. The sheriff, the newsman and also the family and even the PI...nothing.

Where is everybody? Everybody seems to have disappeared.

MOO

I think these are very unsophisticated people with extremely limited financial resources, who neither have the savvy nor the guidance to conduct a successful media campaign. Of course what is successful? i guess finding him alive or dead..but finding him. Other than registering with the various missing kids organizations, putting out flyers and searching in the wilderness.. what can they do? Sadly, when these things happen the parents lives are dissected and there is no such thing as personal info staying personal. I cant remember the name of the little girl whose parents were swingers and she was abducted by a neighbor and killed? The parents went right to LE told the police everything and really.. what happened to them? As far as i can remember, nothing. People are gong to talk no matter what you do. IMO

JM and DK have chosen to conduct themselves in the manner we see and really, it is their child and their right. IMO It may not be productive in our eyes but the police are getting tips from all over of possible sightings so perhaps there is more coverage than we know. In that new video.. or slide show.. wasnt there a picture of Deorr on a milk carton? I swear i saw it..moo

I have no firm theory in this case anymore. I think he was at the campsite at some point and I think the timeline is key. JMO

 

[bessie]

I think these are very unsophisticated people with extremely limited financial resources, who neither have the savvy nor the guidance to conduct a successful media campaign. Of course what is successful? i guess finding him alive or dead..but finding him. Other than registering with the various missing kids organizations, putting out flyers and searching in the wilderness.. what can they do? Sadly, when these things happen the parents lives are dissected and there is no such thing as personal info staying personal. I cant remember the name of the little girl whose parents were swingers and she was abducted by a neighbor and killed? The parents went right to LE told the police everything and really.. what happened to them? As far as i can remember, nothing. People are gong to talk no matter what you do. IMO

JM and DK have chosen to conduct themselves in the manner we see and really, it is their child and their right. IMO It may not be productive in our eyes but the police are getting tips from all over of possible sightings so perhaps there is more coverage than we know. In that new video.. or slide show.. wasnt there a picture of Deorr on a milk carton? I swear i saw it..moo

I have no firm theory in this case anymore. I think he was at the campsite at some point and I think the timeline is key. JMO

I think you're referring to Alanna Gallagher. And what happened to her parents? They were subjected to the same ridicule, criticism, and scrutiny as Deorr's parents. It was horrible, and so terribly unfair.

 

[wondering25]

I think you're referring to Alanna Gallagher. And what happened to her parents? They were subjected to the same ridicule, criticism, and scrutiny as Deorr's parents. It was horrible, and so terribly unfair.

yes, thank you. i guess my point is that no matter what you do there are finger pointers, accusers, blamers and busy bodies. JMO

 

[ILOKAL]

I think you're referring to Alanna Gallagher. And what happened to her parents? They were subjected to the same ridicule, criticism, and scrutiny as Deorr's parents. It was horrible, and so terribly unfair.

I had a different little girl in mind. In Nevada or Utah? She and her mom had gone to the neighbors house to sell GS cookies. He kidnapped her from the house and killed her. LE was on his trail right away and let him play into their hands. Can't for the life of me remember the name.

 

[Mountaingazer]

yes, thank you. i guess my point is that no matter what you do there are finger pointers, accusers, blamers and busy bodies. JMO

Agreed! If you're actively looking for signs of guilt, you'll find them.

 

[renarde]

Nate from East Idaho News just responded to a post on the EIN FB. He does not believe the full interview will be posted.

 

[MJ1960]

Perhaps little Deorr's parents are pushing for the abduction scenario, because in my (uneducated) opinion, that's the only real scenario I can think of in which Deorr could possible still be alive. Maybe it's their last shred of hope, and they're clinging to it. Maybe they know deep down that it's highly unlikely, which would explain their lack of media involvement.

Yes, this is exactly what I'm thinking. I've been following this story since day one, and come here every day. The parents believe it was an abduction, but their theory is discounted by law enforcement, so they trusted law enforcement to lead the way. So although their inclination might be to get out there and find their son, they're being told that the only thing that makes sense is that he went missing in the woods.

On that note: I don't know whether the parents' abduction theory is based on logic or needing hope that their son is alive, but at this point with no evidence of anything at all, I think it was unwise of law enforcement to rule out kidnapping. I've seen stranger things happen.

 

[ILOKAL]

Perhaps little Deorr's parents are pushing for the abduction scenario, because in my (uneducated) opinion, that's the only real scenario I can think of in which Deorr could possible still be alive. Maybe it's their last shred of hope, and they're clinging to it. Maybe they know deep down that it's highly unlikely, which would explain their lack of media involvement.

Yes, this is exactly what I'm thinking. I've been following this story since day one, and come here every day. The parents believe it was an abduction, but their theory is discounted by law enforcement, so they trusted law enforcement to lead the way. So although their inclination might be to get out there and find their son, they're being told that the only thing that makes sense is that he went missing in the woods.

On that note: I don't know whether the parents' abduction theory is based on logic or needing hope that their son is alive, but at this point with no evidence of anything at all, I think it was unwise of law enforcement to rule out kidnapping. I've seen stranger things happen.

I've been a bit critical of the sheriff for that very reason. He came out dismissing "everything" from day one and I feel it was rather foolish of him to be so adamant so early in the investigation. I mean, yes, he's a sheriff but that doesn't make him an expert when it comes to missing children, even in HIS jurisdiction. I realize some of the possibilities are unfathomable but that doesn't mean such things couldn't have happened, IMO

 

[CatsInTheCradle]

I care very much about this little boy being found, but I am not going to post on this thread until we know something definitively because I feel that it is hurtful to some people if another poster doesn't have 110% commitment to the conclusion that none of the POI's know anything. And I'm at like "have no idea"%. So instead of trying to pretend I know, I will wish good luck. Really crossing fingers for the FBI.


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Same thing for me. I'm one of the most empathetic and sympathetic people you will ever run across and I never want to hurt people. My concern during all of this is that helpless baby who is the true victim and who I feel has become lost somewhere in all of this imo. There are things being said on here that do not jive with social media postings by family or people posing as family. So I lurk because if something is wrong the FBI will figure it out. In the meantime I don't want to stress people out. Back to lurking.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I wish the parents would talk to more media outlets than just EIN. None of the other media outlets are talking about the recent small burst of developments. I don't know why. I can't imagine they would be against reporting on this case. I feel like EIN is the only media outlet that is actually pursing the parents. I think the parents need to find out why the rest of the Idaho media has lost interest. It's completely normal to give an "exclusive" to one reporter, which is then reported on by all the others. If they need to talk to the others to get coverage by them, so be it.

 

[Mickshawn]

I wish the parents would talk to more media outlets than just EIN. None of the other media outlets are talking about the recent small burst of developments. I don't know why. I can't imagine they would be against reporting on this case. I feel like EIN is the only media outlet that is actually pursing the parents. I think the parents need to find out why the rest of the Idaho media has lost interest. It's completely normal to give an "exclusive" to one reporter, which is then reported on by all the others. If they need to talk to the others to get coverage by them, so be it.

By "the recent small burst of developments", do you mean the interview, Reward posted and Re-enactment scheduled????

 

[Deleted member 718]

I had a different little girl in mind. In Nevada or Utah? She and her mom had gone to the neighbors house to sell GS cookies. He kidnapped her from the house and killed her. LE was on his trail right away and let him play into their hands. Can't for the life of me remember the name.

Danielle van Dam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Danielle_van_Dam

 

[eileenhawkeye]

By "the recent small burst of developments", do you mean the interview, Reward posted and Re-enactment scheduled????

Yes. Plus, didn't the PI speak up again? I noticed that another media outlet posted about the reward but nothing else when you do a search for Deorr Kunz in the past week on Google.

 

[ILOKAL]

Danielle van Dam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Danielle_van_Dam

YES, gliving, Danielle van Dam! I couldn't recall her name for the life of me . Anyway, that's who I was thinking of.

 

[wondering25]

Danielle van Dam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Danielle_van_Dam

YES! that is it.. Danielle van Dam!

 

[desert-blue]

There has been no coverage at all in Boise for probably a month. Nothing about the PI, nothing about the abduction theory, nothing about the latest reward money. Nothing. What good is reward money if it's not aired nationally? Especially if they think it's some underground adoption ring - that would certainly mean that Deorr is not in Idaho anymore.

The whole idea of remaining silent to draw attention to a missing toddler defies logic. The only way to draw attention to a missing child is for the parents (or grandparents or some other spokesperson) to be as vocal as possible. Parents are their children's number one advocates in any situation. Saying nothing achieves nothing.

I'm confused about the purpose of tomorrow's re-enactment. "Vilt is hoping this proves Kunz was abducted and that his parents played no role in his disappearance." Who are they trying to prove this to? The public? Themselves? The FBI? LE? And why? They don't think the FBI is properly investigating? Seems incredibly odd if you ask me. Are they going to have a news station air the re-enactment? Or is is just for the family? In which case, they must just be trying to prove to themselves how Deorr was kidnapped? I do not get this at all. Who exactly is their intended audience?

This whole case has been nothing but a circus. The truly horrible part is that an innocent child is missing and his family has done very little to help find him. Trolling and arguing on FB also achieves nothing.

There must be a reason they are saying and doing next to nothing. And it isn't because they are poor or young or unsophisticated. MOO.

 

[desert-blue]

Is it possible that the parents suspect IR of abducting their son? Would that account for their target audience always being just local? Maybe they have been told not to talk about their suspicions and that is whey they also seem so silent?

 

[ILOKAL]

Is it possible that the parents suspect IR of abducting their son? Would that account for their target audience always being just local? Maybe they have been told not to talk about their suspicions and that is whey they also seem so silent?

You know, quite frankly that makes sense. It answers why they believe he was "abducted" yet continue to search the forest for their son. I certainly don't like pointing a finger at ANYONE, but the re-enactment might cause someone to try to physically explain and put into actual action what they have been "telling" LE. In the end, it just might not add up.

 

[Mountaingazer]

Is it possible that the parents suspect IR of abducting their son? Would that account for their target audience always being just local? Maybe they have been told not to talk about their suspicions and that is whey they also seem so silent?

This is one of my top theories, and it honestly clicks more and more for me as time goes on.