Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Charles Vallow, 62, Oct 2019 *Arrests* #63

[887sMtreme]

Correct. His name is David Warwick @LinasK

And keep in mind when reviewing his recollections/testimony, that he is hearing-impaired.

 

[MissTilly]

"Then, he watched her walk away, knowing that she was truly going to change his life forever."
END CHAPTER ONE.

Hmm, perhaps CD does have the ability to see into the future.

Really, you have to read this! I have rarely laughed out loud, reading anything! My husband asked me what was so funny!

It is a teenage, awkward, infatuation! The car scene! Classic!

He really does have the worst case of arrested development - it reads like what an immature fourteen year old boy imagines a sexual relationship to be. I was simultaneously hysterical with laughter and utterly grossed out, but sobered by the thought of the resulting murders.

ETA: I also had to control the urge to correct the many grammatical and punctuation errors

 

[887sMtreme]

Thank you! I can't stand the use of initials in cases, particularly when it isn't someone who is a regular in the case and I'd have to pour over a long list of initials to figure out who is it. I rarely use initials. I just put down the names.

There’s a handy Who’s Who at the beginning of every thread.

 

[Niner]

Hi @Niner! Nothing scheduled yet but I will try to keep an eye out!

Thanks for checking it out - and keeping an eye out!

 

[887sMtreme]

Do we know the date LVD made this call??

I wish we could hear Lori’s reaction to learning she was not the beneficiary.

 

[887sMtreme]

Murder, as soon as JJ left to get into the car, BANG.

Don’t forget the second (just to be sure, after he was already flat on his back) BANG.

 

[indicolite22]

Chad's "romance novel" shows a very quick progression of his relationship with Lori. It is no longer surprising that he was able to provide her family's light/dark ratings only days after they first met.

 

[nodamselindistress]

Just read the "romance novel". As stated above, alternately funny and infuriating at the same time. It is evident this was just what we all thought it was from the beginning, Chad found his dream girl barbie doll cheerleader and it was lust at first sight. For that simple reason, 5 people had to die?

If he really thinks he can give blessings and cleanse her soul, does he see himself as GOD? So we have Lori who thinks she is a GOD and then Chad seems to believe he is as well.

These are some seriously deluded individuals, as if we did not already know that.

ALL OF THE ABOVE JMO.

 

[indicolite22]

He really does have the worst case of arrested development - it reads like what an immature fourteen year old boy imagines a sexual relationship to be. I was simultaneously hysterical with laughter and utterly grossed out, but sobered by the thought of the resulting murders.

ETA: I also had to control the urge to correct the many grammatical and punctuation errors

Chad is especially fascinated with Lori's behind. No wonder that was caught on camera in the storage video.

 

[mickey2942]

I wish we could hear Lori’s reaction to learning she was not the beneficiary.

I am impressed by the professionalism of the customer service agent on the phone. And LVD, the breathlessness, the oh, so hesitant...."he died in an 'accident'."

Come on, girl! Just blurt it out! "My brother shot him.".

Anyway, there is no way the jury is going to be able to be sequestered in this trial, the labrynith of layers, upon layers of evidence is epic, and just keeps growing. It shows a story, one step at a time, of the planned conspiracy to kill four people.

 

[indicolite22]

Chad's romantic prose also describes the moment when he and Lori were sealed at the temple. The story doesn't say who sealed them. It happened around the first day of the Mesa PAP conference, which started on November 16 2018.

The end of the document contains Chad's July 22-23 message about fighting zombies:

"I'm glad I caught Elroy. I feel he was aiming to hide out and then get into JJ."

I can imagine how he declared Lori's children zombies. He just made up a scenario and gave evil spirit a name. It seems that nobody ever questioned him.

READ: The 'romance novel' Chad Daybell wrote to Lori Vallow Daybell - East Idaho News

 

[mickey2942]

Chad's romantic prose also describes the moment when he and Lori were sealed at the temple. The story doesn't say who sealed them. It happened around the first day of the Mesa PAP conference, which started on November 16 2018.

Interesting. I noticed pictures of CD and LVD in Hawaii, not much evidence of temple garments.
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[pizzaman12]

The amount of craziness in this case is unreal. In my opinion, when this case finally gets to trial in year 2074, we're going to see evidence that will be jaw dropping regardless of how prepared many of us think we are.

 

[Hazelnutty]

Did Chad ever rate his own children (light, dark, zombie) ?

 

[155etta]

Interesting. I noticed pictures of CD and LVD in Hawaii, not much evidence of temple garments.
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Didn't she tell MG that as translated beings (who cannot die) that they didn't need their protection anymore or some such bullcrap? MOO?

 

[mickey2942]

Didn't she tell MG that as translated beings (who cannot die) that they didn't need their protection anymore or some such bullcrap? MOO?

Again, LVD is NOT LDS. She just "cherry picks" what she wants for her cult head.

 

[indicolite22]

A few more tidbits in this article: Police detail cultish beliefs of mom charged in kids' deaths

Lori and Chad also used "messaging systems inside of a popular karaoke phone application" to communicate.

"At times as many as 10 people" were part of their group. (The number previously mentioned by RW was 7.)

Those who questioned the beliefs were pushed out of the group.

People were also given “vibration” scores and trustworthiness ratings, and those with high-enough "vibrations" were deemed to be “translated,” holding special powers."

Some in the group regularly joined Lori in praying for Charles' demise.

After Charles' murder, Alex told another follower that he didn't feel bad because he killed a zombie.

The group also believed that once a person became “exalted,” they couldn't be held responsible for their actions on earth.

“Because Lori was already ‘exalted,’” Pastenes told the investigators, according to their report, “she would often slam her hand on the counter and state, ‘Doesn’t count for me!'”

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

Local update: MM and JA are at the women’s detention center today

 

[Satchie]

I hadn't realized before that Charles had contacted Tammy (or maybe I just forgot ). Poor poor Tammy. No wonder she seemed a bit different in her last days. I wonder if she did get back to Charles? But knowing about the affair didn't save either of them. Of course they didn't realize that they were in mortal danger, just that their marriages were. And even if they had tried to escape, it was never going to be possible - the murderers were determined to get the insurance monies, so divorce wasn't an option.

Even if Tammy had known about the manner of Charles's death, what would she have done? To be a good wife in most families, means you stick by your man and hope he becomes disenchanted with the floozy who has hypnotized him with her sexuality. IMO, that's where the attitude of the children comes from, I've seen the exact same attitude close up in similar circumstances (not involving murder, but certainly severe neglect and betrayal of family duties).

 

[Hoosgirl]

I can't deal with the novel just yet. Is kissing mentioned?

Kissing, dry humping, touching breasts and booty squeezing. It's really badly written soft /middle schooler fanfic. JMO