Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #3

[BigAl16]

No idea specifically. No clue. I'm having thoughts about situations like Ruby Ridge, Waco, those people who say they're sovereign citizens, only follow constitutional law (too lazy to google), other fringe groups where situations have gone terribly wrong. On both sides.

Yeah, that kind of thing is a possibility. If, as many have theorized here, they know where Chad and Lori are, the pussyfooting might be because they think they're holed up somewhere with those sorts and that kind of attitude and arms, I suppose.

 

[SuperTmo]

Could you please link to the text? ( Or the MSM/source if possible ).

It’s just in the most recent police press release from RPD. I read it on their Facebook page.

 

[cvaldez1975]

Do we know when Lori allegedly said Tylee was dead? Was it since they ran off? I wonder who she said it to. Had she made someone in her circle believe for some period of time that Tylee was dead? There is literally no explanation for her saying this. No excuse. Lord who would even want to put that out in the world.

When did Chad say that about Lori having no minor children? Was it since they got together after Tammy died? Is it possible that was something he said quite awhile back while talking to someone about Lori and he made a mistake? Maybe he didn’t know about JJ and thought Tylee was older? If it is recent, since they got together, then he said it because it’s true. Her kids are dead. MOO

Did anything happen to Tylee (accident or illness Lori could use for sympathy) or between Lori and Tylee back around the time she supposedly died? Maybe did Tylee tell Lori she didn’t believe this garbage and from then on she was dead to Lori?

I’m losing hope that these kids are still alive. I didn’t think they were from the start but ugh. As far as I understand, the last time we absolutely know Tylee was alive was the day Uncle Alex killed Charles, right? Since she was there?

she was telling ppl that prior to Chad's wife dying from what i heard.... its in one of the links, i think the daily fail one.

 

[lurker042]

So did you know Lori, Tylee and JJ and when it was that they first moved to Rexburg? When did Chad disappear and then return, presumably with Lori and kids ?

Never even knew the woman
Rexburg is a big enough place and with all the orbiting communities there are people I will never meet.
Chad never came back after his wife’s death. Not to Salem anyway

 

[BigAl16]

First time poster, but I've been following this case from the beginning as I live in Boise. As an Idahoan my perspective is this: Rexberg is a very small, religious and conservative community; this community very well may have Chad Daybell sympathizers MOO. In addition to that Idaho is a state you can easily get lost in. Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness for example is 3,698 square miles of mostly uninhibited wild land. I wonder if LE has looked into this as a possibility?

Praying these kiddos get home safe.

Cold and snowy, but I suppose if you find a nice cave out of the weather.

Others have floated this idea. It's certainly possible although most feel that there is no way Lori would be willing to rough it as much as that would require.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Never even knew the woman
Rexburg is a big enough place and with all the orbiting communities there are people I will never meet.
Chad never came back after his wife’s death. Not to Salem anyway

How soon did he leave?

 

[SuperTmo]

she was telling ppl that prior to Chad's wife dying from what i heard.... its in one of the links, i think the daily fail one.

Oh great! Thanks! I only saw the police statement that mentions it, so I’ll go read that. MOO: So most likely Lori has been saying that since she moved to Idaho. My theory is Tylee never made it to Idaho. Otherwise in a town as small as Rexburg, people would know and recognize Tylee. They would know she didn’t die a year or two earlier, because they would have seen her around. Unless she kept Tylee locked in a room or something, I can’t imagine how she could be telling people that in Rexburg.

 

[cvaldez1975]

i'm wondering who saw her after Charles was shot by Alex....

Oh great! Thanks! I only saw the police statement that mentions it, so I’ll go read that. MOO: So most likely Lori has been saying that since she moved to Idaho. My theory is Tylee never made it to Idaho. Otherwise in a town as small as Rexburg, people would know and recognize Tylee. They would know she didn’t die a year or two earlier, because they would have seen her around. Unless she kept Tylee locked in a room or something, I can’t imagine how she could be telling people that in Rexburg.

 

[BigAl16]

So there's a problem with second to last. I think they mean 'Preparing a People', which is the group that puts on seminars or conferences which basically charges money to attend and then there are people selling stuff at the conference. it's for people interested in end times, and emergency preparedness mixed with spiritual talks. That's not 'Chad's cult', that I'm aware of . They keep calling it a 'cult', but I don't think it's anything organized, just his views on the future and people who listened to him, read his books and believed his visions and claims of future events. Calling it a cult also seems to confuse people into thinking they are polygamists, which there is no evidence or suggestion of that, or that he formed his own church, which from what others have said about him, it doesn't sound like it. Also, if he had a calling in his church congregation as executive secretary up till Tammy died, then the claim that he was excommunicated in Sept. in the Daily mail has got to be wrong. If he was excommunicated in Sept, then he would have been released from his calling and he wouldn't have had it at her death in October--that is a for sure. So, those are two contradictory bits of information.

MOO. I think most of us doubt the excommunication claim. I know I do. And as you say, there is no way that happened while he was still acting in that calling.

That doesn't mean excommunication is isn't coming if he ever shows up, but I doubt it has happened already. I don't think any source other than the Daily Mail is reporting it (unless others say "according to the Daily Mail") and they aren't the most believable source.

The other "cult" possibility might be AVOW (another end times group he was said to be in). One of these has a special forum on their website that had a cost to it with an additional cost to get into a sub-forum that Chad ran. I think this might be what is being called or perceived as a cult.

 

[lurker042]

How soon did he leave?

I don’t know
He was here and there he wasn’t
Now one of his kids is living in the house

 

[BigAl16]

She absolutely moved to Idaho to be with Chad in MOO. The only reason you live in Rexburg is because you were born there. The only reason you move to Rexburg is if you're going to BYU. That's literally it.

Or you have an unhealthy obsession with potatoes.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Oh great! Thanks! I only saw the police statement that mentions it, so I’ll go read that. MOO: So most likely Lori has been saying that since she moved to Idaho. My theory is Tylee never made it to Idaho. Otherwise in a town as small as Rexburg, people would know and recognize Tylee. They would know she didn’t die a year or two earlier, because they would have seen her around. Unless she kept Tylee locked in a room or something, I can’t imagine how she could be telling people that in Rexburg.

JMO but I tend to disagree with Rexburg being a small town. It has a population of at least 27,000. It's a college town, so Tylee would not stand out at all. Unless I'm just completely off base. JMO

 

[SuperTmo]

i'm wondering who saw her after Charles was shot by Alex....

Was she at Charles’ funeral? I assume he had one. Was JJ? My best guess is that Alex has been Lori’s fixer for years and he was the last to see Tylee.

 

[SuperTmo]

Or you have an unhealthy obsession with potatoes.

no such thing as an unhealthy potato obsession!

 

[155etta]

I am wondering if there is any significance to the fact that JJ was last seen on Sept 23rd, the day before Tylee's birthday. It just keeps nagging at the corner of my mind. That coupled with the seeming lack of exact date that Tylee was last seen.

Tylee's father died in 2018. Apparently body wasn't discovered for 3 weeks. The body was then cremated. I don't know if any sort of autopsy was done, but it was declared a heart attack. I wonder how Tylee reacted to her father's death? She seemed to have lost contact with even her best friend around that time.

Is it possible that she was so isolated by that time that she didn't even know he was dead? MOO.

 

[155etta]

JMO but I tend to disagree with Rexburg being a small town. It has a population of at least 27,000. It's a college town, so Tylee would not stand out at all. Unless I'm just completely off base. JMO

You're not off base. Rexburg resident here.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Or you have an unhealthy obsession with potatoes.

Maybe she drove a potato truck? I say that cuz I've nearly been ran off the road by pumpkin trucks in my neck of the woods.

 

[SuperTmo]

JMO but I tend to disagree with Rexburg being a small town. It has a population of at least 27,000. It's a college town, so Tylee would not stand out at all. Unless I'm just completely off base. JMO

Oh yeah... forgot about the school there. Good point. I think at a minimum someone from their apartment complex would have come forward to say they saw her.

 

[cvaldez1975]

Is it possible that she was so isolated by that time that she didn't even know he was dead? MOO.

i also have questins about his cause of death at this point. he was not found for quite some time so he was likely decomposed and the obvious wouldn't be visible.

 

[BigAl16]

JMO but I tend to disagree with Rexburg being a small town. It has a population of at least 27,000. It's a college town, so Tylee would not stand out at all. Unless I'm just completely off base. JMO

I agree. It's small, but not so small that a new person is going to stand out, not even close. Plus, being a college town, you have a lot of people of a certain age range moving into and out of town all the time. I'm not sure how much of that population is made up of students, but it's not a trivial percentage. Tylee would be the least noticeable person in this family, by far, in Rexburg.