Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #31

Status
Not open for further replies.
  • #1,901
They've mentioned two timing facts that appear to go against evidence released to the public by LE....JJ/JC call on 10/1 and SS/TR call on 9/24. They prove nothing.

SBM. The communication SS claimed with "TR" on 9/24 was a text, not a call. So, even SS really has no idea who created and sent it although as you indicate, she clearly was attempting to present it to muddy the waters about when TR disappeared.

ETA: This potentially distances the date of TR's disappearance from 9/23 which was a significant date for CD.
 
Last edited:
  • #1,902
Very, very interesting!! Last paragraph of the affidavit of the deputy AG Kristina Schindele;

"The investigation remains on-going. To date, this Office has not received the completed investigation. Rather, this Office has received one succinct summary related to the investigation as well as drafts of some legal process that has yet to be finalized. [...]"
 
Last edited:
  • #1,903
Very, very interesting!! Last paragraph of the affidavit of the deputy AG Kristina Schindele;

"The investigation remains on-going. To date, this Office has not received the completed investigation. Rather, this Office has received one succinct summary related to the investigation as well as drafts of some legal process that has yet to be finalized. [...]"


This was a gem too (from the Memorandum):
"...this request initiates a fishing expedition into an investigation into circumstances involving Tammy Daybell, including events that took place immediately preceding the death of Tammy Daybell, issues quite unrelated t0 the abandonment and refusal to produce Defendant’s children"
 
  • #1,904
This video is much more informative. Sorry I couldn't figure out how to imbed it, but wanted to send ppl to watch.
It looks like this is no longer the 4+ min video? Which I can no longer find. Can anyone else find it? It included a part where he talks about tracing the "threats" Lori received, and getting a response from those ppl. Why would they change it?

ETA this reporter is on at 6:30 and 10 pm local (AZ) time. So, those are the times to watch tonight
 
  • #1,905
I've been wondering the Cox family agreed to these interviews after choosing to be totally silent about their missing family members for at least 7 months. Lori's recent bond hearing was a colossal failure...is this a last ditch effort before Lori moves to a trial?
 
  • #1,906
Deputy-AG also refers to Means' subpoena as a fishing expedition in the memorandum in support of motion to quash.

Exactly. Time to pack away the fishing net Mr Means, and get on with the case at hand!
 
  • #1,907
This was a gem too (from the Memorandum):
"...this request initiates a fishing expedition into an investigation into circumstances involving Tammy Daybell, including events that took place immediately preceding the death of Tammy Daybell, issues quite unrelated t0 the abandonment and refusal to produce Defendant’s children"
Snap! I just commented on the same. :D
 
  • #1,908
It looks like this is no longer the 4+ min video? Which I can no longer find. Can anyone else find it? It included a part where he talks about tracing the "threats" Lori received, and getting a response from those ppl. Why would they change it?

It's at the very end and the interview is asked questions by his colleagues. This is the second video released.
Lori Vallow's family says she would not hurt children
 
  • #1,909
It looks like this is no longer the 4+ min video? Which I can no longer find. Can anyone else find it? It included a part where he talks about tracing the "threats" Lori received, and getting a response from those ppl. Why would they change it?

ETA this reporter is on at 6:30 and 10 pm local (AZ) time. So, those are the times to watch tonight
I did wonder where that came from because it wasn't in the video I watched.
 
  • #1,910
Deputy-AG also refers to Means' subpoena as a fishing expedition in the memorandum in support of motion to quash.

Exactly. Time to pack away the fishing net Mr Means, and get on with the case at hand!

BUBM
And he's fishing in the wrong pond!!!

II. ARGUMENT
The scope 0f Defendant’s subpoena duces tecum is unreasonable and oppressive and requires the disclosure of privileged or other protected matters and information. Additionally, the records requested in the subpoena are not relevant to the charges pending in this Madison County case. Rather, Defendant seeks inside information regarding pending criminal investigation into unrelated conduct. In fact, among the records sought in the subpoena, in specific request number 9, are “[a]ny records, documents, exhibits, etc. related t0 0r intended for use by the prosecutor as evidence at tria1[.]” Yet the subpoena is not directed t0 the Madison County Prosecuting Attorney, counsel for the State in the matter pending before the Court. Rather, Defendant served the subpoena 0n the OAG regarding an unrelated criminal investigation, Where no charges or trial are pending. MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF MOTION TO QUASH, Page Idaho Criminal Rule 17(b) provides: For Production of Documentary Evidence and of Objects. subpoena may also command the person to whom it is directed to produce the books, papers, documents or other objects designated in it. The court, 0n motion, may quash or modify the subpoena if compliance would be unreasonable 0r oppressive. I.C.R. 17(b). The decision Whether t0 quash subpoena upon motion under Idaho Criminal Rule 17(b) is committed t0 this Court’s sound discretion. State V. Joy, 155 Idaho 1, 12, 304 P.3d 276, 287 (2013).
 
  • #1,911
  • #1,912
Very, very interesting!! Last paragraph of the affidavit of the deputy AG Kristina Schindele;

"The investigation remains on-going. To date, this Office has not received the completed investigation. Rather, this Office has received one succinct summary related to the investigation as well as drafts of some legal process that has yet to be finalized. [...]"

Yes, interesting but the word “DRAFTS” is telling me they have draft indictment(s). Not surprised at all about the motion to quash the subpoenas and won’t be surprised either when the judge affirms that motion. Just a little “high and wide” pitch for Means, what is that...ball 8?
 
  • #1,913
Yes, interesting but the word “DRAFTS” is telling me they have draft indictment(s). Not surprised at all about the motion to quash the subpoenas and won’t be surprised either when the judge affirms that motion. Just a little “high and wide” pitch for Means, what is that...ball 8?

He's not even pitching in the right ballpark!
 
  • #1,914
Yes, interesting but the word “DRAFTS” is telling me they have draft indictment(s). Not surprised at all about the motion to quash the subpoenas and won’t be surprised either when the judge affirms that motion. Just a little “high and wide” pitch for Means, what is that...ball 8?
Is there a reason you used the word but, as if it's not the news we're hoping for?
 
  • #1,915
I did wonder where that came from because it wasn't in the video I watched.

Maybe some other WSers missed that there are two videos. Sorry don't know how to embed the video.

Video 1 was on CBS This morning - 3:05 min
Watch CBS This Morning: Lori Vallow's family defends her innocence - Full show on CBS All Access
Video 2 was on CBS Evening News - 4.32 min
Lori Vallow's family says she would not hurt children

More videos tonight and tomorrow night. The article accompanying the video states:
  • The interviews took place Saturday and no question was off-limits.
  • CBS 5 Investigates and AZFamily.com will be posting updated news stories based on the interviews, as well as the entire interviews, edited only to reduce redundancies and duplicate questions and answers.
 
  • #1,916
Is there a reason you used the word but, as if it's not the news we're hoping for?

No, just the words you highlighted missed the word “draft” which I think is telling. It’s all good, your contributions here are impeccable. Cheers!
 
  • #1,917
Maybe some other WSers missed that there are two videos. Sorry don't know how to embed the video.

Video 1 was on CBS This morning - 3:05 min
Watch CBS This Morning: Lori Vallow's family defends her innocence - Full show on CBS All Access
Video 2 was on CBS Evening News - 4.32 min
Lori Vallow's family says she would not hurt children

More videos tonight and tomorrow night. The article accompanying the video states:
  • The interviews took place Saturday and no question was off-limits.
  • CBS 5 Investigates and AZFamily.com will be posting updated news stories based on the interviews, as well as the entire interviews, edited only to reduce redundancies and duplicate questions and answers.
I can't watch the first one in my region. Is that the one where they mention threats?
 
  • #1,918
Maybe some other WSers missed that there are two videos. Sorry don't know how to embed the video.

Video 1 was on CBS This morning - 3:05 min
Watch CBS This Morning: Lori Vallow's family defends her innocence - Full show on CBS All Access
Video 2 was on CBS Evening News - 4.32 min
Lori Vallow's family says she would not hurt children

More videos tonight and tomorrow night. The article accompanying the video states:
  • The interviews took place Saturday and no question was off-limits.
  • CBS 5 Investigates and AZFamily.com will be posting updated news stories based on the interviews, as well as the entire interviews, edited only to reduce redundancies and duplicate questions and answers.
That's what I'm trying to point out. When I click your link for video 2, the video is only 2:23 long, not the 4+ it used to be! I felt it was the best video, but now I can't access it!
 
  • #1,919
No, just the words you highlighted missed the word “draft” which I think is telling. It’s all good, your contributions here are impeccable. Cheers!
Ah, I see what you mean now. I've gone back and edited. Thanks.
 
  • #1,920
Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix
3 mins ·
PAST LIVES: When I first read the divorce paperwork filed by Charles Vallow’s attorneys from February 2019, this part truly made no sense to me. Charles accused Lori Vallow of being obsessed with near death experiences and visions. He said she believed she was married to the prophet Moroni in a past life. Sources tell me Charles had this phone call with Lori at the end of January 2019.

But tonight - we reveal a document Lori received from Chad a week before that alleged call with Charles. More than year later - these strange details start to make sense. And it appears, not only Lori lived several past lives — but so did her missing son JJ according to the doomsday author himself. Special report coming up.

follow link to read documents (extracts from Charles' divorce petition we've already seen) Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Staff online

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
122
Guests online
3,355
Total visitors
3,477

Forum statistics

Threads
632,634
Messages
18,629,501
Members
243,231
Latest member
Irena21D
Back
Top