Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #32

[squareandrabbet]

I ask this question sincerely. Can you provide an example of what could possibly be a threat? What could be so awful or dangerous that the kids need to go into hiding, but Lori could continue living her life in Hawaii? Until someone can provide concrete examples, I find the theory of unidentified threat implausible. And if there was a viable threat, why not go to the police? None of the above theory makes sense to me. It’s like bad thriller novel.

I know that at least some of Kay’s emails are public. I have read them. I will find them and provide link. There is nothing remotely threatening

I feel that to Lori, anything involving heated or even reasonable levels of irritation is a ‘threat’. Anything other than ‘yes ma’am, yes ma’am, right away, bow and scrape’.

What school did Tylee attend? I thought Tylee had graduated high school or got her ged (not sure on the link here, so correct me if I’m wrong). I think I saw they checked byui and couldn’t find a record. Not sure on where I saw that though. I know there’s two beauty schools, a massage therapy school, and a technical college nearby. Could it have been one of those? Is this another story to throw more doubt in the mix? All jmo

IIRC somewhere in this block of interviews Melani says it was BYU-I. Nate (?) failed to follow up on this easy answer; though I doubt it would have done any good, as only retroactively is Melani saying she thought anything of this response. Of course it’s a total implausibility, but Melani thinks she’s clever since nobody has heretofore called her on her BS.

 

[squareandrabbet]

Ian shares details that he would cooperate with LE-he taped/recorded calls with Lori and Chad--
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Ian shared other details, said he would cooperate with police and allowed them to pull data from his phone. He met with officers the next day, and they gave him a recording device to put on his keychain.

“My plan was to record anything I thought could help locate Tylee and JJ, locate Chad and Lori and understand what happened when Brandon was shot at,” Ian wrote. “If Chad and Lori were going to be calling, I’d turn on the recorder and just let it run until they’d hung up.”

Ian says nothing substantial was ever recorded with Chad and Lori because they never talked about the missing children.

On Dec. 19, police searched Alex Cox’s Rexburg townhouse, and Ian says he admitted to Melani that he had spoken with officers.

Not to beat a dead horse, but here again.. Ian was recording calls between MP and Lori and Chad in DECEMBER--when MP clearly states she did not speak to Lori in the 1st interview.

Also of Note** Remember when everyone was looking for Chad and Lori ??**
Well, MP states she knew they were going to Hawaii and that they were in Hawaii and above, Ian writes he was recording to see if he could help locate Chad and Lori.
SMH=-- these are just lies after lies from this group of so called "religious" people.

forgot to mention, I think it should be clear by now that sadly, as long as Ian is leashed to Melani, there will be no truth, or even good sense or logic, to be found in his post-Melani-aware statements. We had might as well write them all off, because nothing he says will make sense if he’s dancing around trying to make 2 women with diametrically opposed goals happy.

 

[indicolite22]

What school did Tylee attend? I thought Tylee had graduated high school or got her ged (not sure on the link here, so correct me if I’m wrong). I think I saw they checked byui and couldn’t find a record. Not sure on where I saw that though. I know there’s two beauty schools, a massage therapy school, and a technical college nearby. Could it have been one of those? Is this another story to throw more doubt in the mix? All jmo

I don't think there was ever any school involved. Lori mentioned BYU to people in connection with her and Tylee, although no record of enrolment was found. Tylee disappeared a little over a week after their arrival to Rexburg. I think in the latest interview Melani is just naming every possible option. She's not really speaking about what she saw, but describing plans Lori had beforehand. If Melani never saw the kids, clearly those plans did not come true.

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

I feel that to Lori, anything involving heated or even reasonable levels of irritation is a ‘threat’. Anything other than ‘yes ma’am, yes ma’am, right away, bow and scrape’.



IIRC somewhere in this block of interviews Melani says it was BYU-I. Nate (?) failed to follow up on this easy answer; though I doubt it would have done any good, as only retroactively is Melani saying she thought anything of this response. Of course it’s a total implausibility, but Melani thinks she’s clever since nobody has heretofore called her on her BS.

Here’s a news story about her “attending” byui. Court Documents Reveal New Information About the Missing Rexburg Kids Case
From the article: Court documents also show that Lori told her friend that her daughter Tylee Ryan was attending classes at BYU-Idaho, however, a records check at BYU-Idaho indicate that Tylee was never enrolled at BYU-Idaho.

 

[ReadyorNot]

This is a cavalier bunch, but the notion that Alex ordered pizza with Stacey's credit card after she died is as out there for me as the pool party after Charles died. And the story about the house being refinanced behind the Cox' back was totally not believable (ever.) But I wouldn't be surprised if these two stories are a telephone-game version of some things that actually happened. Maybe he made some purchases with Stacey's credit card some after her death; maybe he did something nefarious regarding finances he shared with his parents.

Who would have fed Larry this information? Well, there are a lot of people who have come forward, and a ton who haven't, who are on the fringes and have some of the story.....and who really don't like some of the players in this story. I would guess a number of people have reached out to Kay and Larry to feed them info, not all of it totally accurate.

Regarding the house being partially in AC name... It looks to me like an attempt to protect the asset from the Feds.

 

[Spartygirl]

Preview of yet another interview:

Melani went to Rexburg for her own reasons and never saw the kids while she was there.

Melani: "Lori had told me that they were getting lots of threats and she had to do everything to keep Tylee and JJ safe."

Iterviewer: "Did you ask her specifically where they were?"

Melani: "Tylee would go to school or stay with friends. She had a plan for JJ to put him in a good school and to have a nanny for him and she was setting up everything for them. I had no reason to believe that any harm had been done to the children. Lori had her plan and I trusted that."

Melani doesn't know from what and from who Tylee and JJ are being protected.

But-- She didn't really answer the question.
Every time Nate asked her or Ian that question, she/he never answered it with a yes or no as to DID YOU ASK Her Specifically where they were?

 

[StrangerThanFiction]

There is a remote possibility that black magic was used. I used to not believe in it, until I saw it with my own eyes. Once you see it, it's downright scary.

MOO

Well, it HAS been stated the Zulema has “power over the elements”. Does that include anatomical/biological elements??

 

[Spartygirl]

All these interviews are garbage. Coached up in a controlled setting with lawyers. Worthless

WELCOME TO WS !!

And I AGREE !!

 

[DI_Isokawa]

Just an observation, no idea of its import or what to make of it. In the "movement" or whatever we want to call it, everybody from Lori's family is paired up: Lori has Chad, Alex had Zulema, and Melani has Ian. Tylee is no longer a child but there's nobody associated with her. Are we missing somebody?

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

Just an observation, no idea of its import or what to make of it. In the "movement" or whatever we want to call it, everybody from Lori's family is paired up: Lori has Chad, Alex had Zulema, and Melani has Ian. Tylee is no longer a child but there's nobody associated with her. Are we missing somebody?

Are you insinuating that Tylee was married off? Imo I don’t believe that was the case. From what we know, imo, they are lumping Tylee in with JJ. To me, imo, that says they are treating her as a kid. But I certainly could be wrong. Anything is possible with this bunch. Again though, imo, I don’t think she was married off.

 

[Deerrun]

Just an observation, no idea of its import or what to make of it. In the "movement" or whatever we want to call it, everybody from Lori's family is paired up: Lori has Chad, Alex had Zulema, and Melani has Ian. Tylee is no longer a child but there's nobody associated with her. Are we missing somebody?

Tylee is a dark spirit she would not be one of the 144,000 imo. I believe the 144,000 needs to be paired/married up to be accepted. I cannot believe I am even writing that. MP is a scary lady, anyone who can lie like that gives me the chills. She is prob taking over for Lori and doing some of her own brainwashing, watch out don't look into the tv while she is talking jmo

 

[Diddian]

I feel that to Lori, anything involving heated or even reasonable levels of irritation is a ‘threat’. Anything other than ‘yes ma’am, yes ma’am, right away, bow and scrape’.



IIRC somewhere in this block of interviews Melani says it was BYU-I. Nate (?) failed to follow up on this easy answer; though I doubt it would have done any good, as only retroactively is Melani saying she thought anything of this response. Of course it’s a total implausibility, but Melani thinks she’s clever since nobody has heretofore called her on her BS.

Good points. I'm going to give Nate a pass on the failed follow up question. He said he had three pages of prepared questions and only got through the first. Some questions can be asked next interview after analysis of this one. And, these Cox-related women jabber. A lot. Read through the transcript of Lori's interview at GPD after CV was shot and note some of the similarities between how she goes on and how MBP does.

When Lori or MP or other Cox women are permitted to jabber without interruption, they say a lot. I don't mean only the words they are saying (some don't comport with what others are saying or with otherwise known or reasonably inferred facts) or even word quantity, but also what they repeatedly emphasize (indicating they are trying to sell THAT particular narrative), when they break with running narrative and state something with contempt or other "superior" or dismissive demeanor (as SS did when she switched to religious freedom protection mode), when their answer is not responsive to the question but is instead attentive to what they want to be heard, whether the language of their eyes, face, and body are in agreement with their words, or when they flash a duping grin or smile.

It is sometimes valuable NOT to interrupt with a follow up question and to let them run on in accordance with their own motivations - i.e. what do THEY hope to accomplish with this interview - and to ask that follow-up question later.

It's notable that, after that GPD interview in which Lori said so much that doesn't sound reasonable and that doesn't fit with the facts, she shut up. I wonder who advised her to do that. And, I wonder who else she shut up.

 

[longtimereader]

So Ian says they were in communication with Lori and Chad and Melani says she had no way to contact them. Someone needs lawyers that can coach a consistent story.

Melanie also said Joe Ryan abused Tylee and JJ. She called him their dad. He was not JJ's dad. I don't know why he would have JJ in his care for any reason. She said Lori wouldn't play Charles' games when it is known that she cancelled his flights, took his vehicle and took money from his accounts. So really none of this is worth our time. They are just playing games and getting attention. I am not even going to watch number 3. The video should help people with cases against her for slander. Two lawyers sitting by her doesn't make it court and doesn't mean she must tell the truth.

 

[Knox]

Good points. I'm going to give Nate a pass on the failed follow up question. He said he had three pages of prepared questions and only got through the first. Some questions can be asked next interview after analysis of this one. And, these Cox-related women jabber. A lot. Read through the transcript of Lori's interview at GPD after CV was shot and note some of the similarities between how she goes on and how MBP does.

When Lori or MP or other Cox women are permitted to jabber without interruption, they say a lot. I don't mean only the words they are saying (some don't comport with what others are saying or with otherwise known or reasonably inferred facts) or even word quantity, but also what they repeatedly emphasize (indicating they are trying to sell THAT particular narrative), when they break with running narrative and state something with contempt or other "superior" or dismissive demeanor (as SS did when she switched to religious freedom protection mode), when their answer is not responsive to the question but is instead attentive to what they want to be heard, whether the language of their eyes, face, and body are in agreement with their words, or when they flash a duping grin or smile.

It is sometimes valuable NOT to interrupt with a follow up question and to let them run on in accordance with their own motivations - i.e. what do THEY hope to accomplish with this interview - and to ask that follow-up question later.

It's notable that, after that GPD interview in which Lori said so much that doesn't sound reasonable and that doesn't fit with the facts, she shut up. I wonder who advised her to do that. And, I wonder who else she shut up.

I noted the duper's delight SS exhibited in her interview, such a weird thing to watch. If you turn off the sound in key parts of the video, her facial expression definitely doesn't go with the topic at hand. Didn't see that so much in the others.

The family hitting the media circuit has done more harm than good. The prosecutor's office now knows exactly how to question each of these individuals in court. Let's hope they do as good a job as you all have here, in pointing out all the inconsistencies.

 

[Diddian]

forgot to mention, I think it should be clear by now that sadly, as long as Ian is leashed to Melani, there will be no truth, or even good sense or logic, to be found in his post-Melani-aware statements. We had might as well write them all off, because nothing he says will make sense if he’s dancing around trying to make 2 women with diametrically opposed goals happy.

If IP is trying to make two women happy, he has a strange way of doing it. He talked about how much he enjoys being married to MP, because he is not judged or held up to some standard (paraphrasing). That seems to me a dig at his former wife who probably judged him or his behavior as less than to be expected and told him to get off his butt, stop playing so many video games, and muster up some ambition to better help her provide for his family and the future.

I consider everything IP has done or said within this context: IP did or said it AFTER his ex-wife notified him that she had done a little background research and found reports of very odd and troubling behavior about his new spouse and her extended family. Despite IP reporting that MP told him some very strange stuff on his wedding night there in Vegas, IP didn't appear to do any background research of his own about the woman he'd just married or the family he married into. His concern only appeared to be raised when he learned his ex-wife was on the scent. My guess is that IP already knew because IP was a participant in whatever thing engulfed or involved MBP, but that he had to at least appear to cooperate in the hope he could quell his ex-wife's concerns. He had no idea the FBI was going to be there when he went with NP to LE, so he had to develop a new plan upon that discovery. So, he agreed to cooperate, but probably only appeared to do so. And now, he's not cooperating at all; he's participating in public delivery of a created narrative.

As far as recording conversations in Idaho, it is a one-party consent state. So, IP could agree with the FBI to record his conversations with others without their knowledge. I wonder if - when one party agrees to FBI recording of their conversations with others and agrees to conduct that recording himself - the FBI can also independently record those same conversations? Could the little thumb drive device IP carried and activated as he wished have been only ONE OF TWO RECORDERS listening in on those conversations?

If so, the difference in evidence production between what IP recorded and what the FBI independently recorded could be evidence itself that will sink IP as a participant in the larger conspiracy, as if he failed to record material conversations it could indicate he is tampering with evidence and hindering prosecution.

NP's assessment of her former husband (alluded to by him in his recent interview) was right on. What a catch.

 

[lonetraveler]

All these interviews are garbage. Coached up in a controlled setting with lawyers. Worthless

Welcome and great first post.

 

[Hatfield]

3 quick marriages:

Chad and Lori. She's in jail, he's being investigated for things, there's a mobile FBI lab parked in Rexburg for them.

Melani and Ian. There's 2 custody fights going on, he secretly recorded his wife, they're "hanging by a thread" and need 2 lawyers to answer questions about Melani's aunt.

Alex and ZP. He's dead. She's the quietest member of this whole group.

This all worked out well. Jmo

JMO
Good summary there.

In an effort for me to try to keep things straight with all the related dead, shot-at, and missing people, I added some extra bullets underneath each pair of people. I left your original parts in italics and added some extra notes below each pair that I hope is accurate.
Its incredible to me all the deaths, shootings, and missing people that are associated with the person sitting in jail right now and her recent husband.

Chad and Lori.
She's in jail, he's being investigated for things, there's a mobile FBI lab parked in Rexburg for them.

*Chad's previous wife (Tammy) is found dead in their home shortly before he marries Lori.

*Significance to me is that nobody ever brought Tammy to a hospital complaining of any sort of sickness or anything like that. She just was dead one day in her own bed. That sounds unusual to me for a middle aged person with no signs of a previous terminal illness or a sickness of some sort. With the elderly it is probably not too uncommon, but for a middle aged person, I would have to think its pretty unusual and not very common at all.

*Lori's previous husband (Charles) is shot and killed in Lori's home shortly before she marries Chad.

*And one of the most important things in all this chaos is Lori's two children (Tylee and JJ) are missing under her watch. She cannot and will not tell anyone where they are or what happened to them.

*The story line about the shooting indicates Lori's brother Alex may have been the one to shoot Charles in self defense, but there are still questions remaining. Mainly whether or not Charles was coaxed into the home with a pre-arranged plan or not.
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Melani and Ian.
There's 2 custody fights going on, he secretly recorded his wife, they're "hanging by a thread" and need 2 lawyers to answer questions about Melani's aunt.

*Melani's Ex-husband (Brandon) was shot at in an attempted murder.
Significance of that shooting is a familiar car was allegedly in the area around the time of that shooting.

*For Ian, I dont think we have the whole story yet of his association with his new wife Melani and his/her relationship with Lori and Chad.

Alex and ZP.
He's dead. She's the quietest member of this whole group.

*Alex was suspected of being the shooter in Charles death and he claimed self defense. Possible involvement in one of the other attempted shootings. He has died of natural causes according to a medical report that was recently released.

*For ZP, not much is known at this point.

 

[pizzaman12]

Welcome and great first post.

Thanks...been lurking for ages and couldn't stand it any more.

 

[Deerrun]

Just a thought, I wonder if Nate talked to LE on what questions to ask MP and IP it could be why he asked the ones he did. Jmo

 

[Colorado303]

I think Lori is the type who would soon see her daughter as competition, just like she likely saw Colby's wife, so she did not encourage Tylee to stay fit.

I agree. I recall reading way back when a friend said Lori wished Tylee was thinner. But Lori strikes me as the type who would berate Tylee for her weight then sabotage by bringing home favorite treats, perhaps even encouraging Tylee to enjoy them “just this once” for some (Lori-created) special occasion.