Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #10

[fred&edna]

As a consolation prize, I could accept this scenario:

Lori, in handcuffs, police issue ones
Chad standing there in his Pumas, baggie of cash in hand
Sadly waving buh bye

Jmo

Me too, Me too!!

 

[Patch Tuesday]

As a consolation prize, I could accept this scenario:

Lori, in handcuffs, police issue ones
Chad standing there in his Pumas, baggie of cash in hand
Sadly waving buh bye

Jmo

I like this but I also want to see Tammy get justice because in my heart I can't believe for a second she just up and died in her sleep from nothing, and the number of people who would have access to her and wanted her gone is pretty small.

 

[PinkPrincessPoop]

Well isn't that convenient.

Still, can't they be asked to provide proof he is being homeschooled? Lori can't be doing it herself since he hasn't been with her all these months.

Imo

The homeschooling community and the HSLDA (Home School Legal Defense Association) would put up a fit and possibly file a legal case against them for violating "homeschool rights" by even asking such a question. MOO.

 

[RexburgSleuth]

I think one of the members here who knew him personally, described Chad as a wannabe leader. If Tammy didn't die of natural causes, I bet he was actively involved.

I used to have a really, really hard time believing he was actively involved in Tammy's death. But, as time goes on, with his actions, everything out in the open, and what else I know, I'm having a hard time believing he was not involved or at least knew what was going to happen prior.

 

[MsBetsy]

Not true.

Lori took out JJ to "homeschool" him. There is virtually zero oversight for homeschooling in Idaho. No required tests, no letters to superintendent, no teaching qualifications (even for special needs children), nothing.

EDIT: The only thing "required" in Idaho is to teach your child the same subjects as public school....yet there is still noone/nothing to check that you are actually doing that.

But just the fact that the child has not been living with her indicates that she hasn't been homeschooling him.

Imo

 

[Patch Tuesday]

Well isn't that convenient.

Still, can't they be asked to provide proof he is being homeschooled? Lori can't be doing it herself since he hasn't been with her all these months.

Imo

Probably a moot point considering they first just want to know he's even alive.

I'm low-key surprised they didn't set up house in the area where the faith healers lived and just said, well whoops, we done prayed for them kiddos but they just died on us, bye now.

 

[MsBetsy]

The homeschooling community and the HSLDA (Home School Legal Defense Association) would put up a fit and possibly file a legal case against them for violating "homeschool rights" by even asking such a question. MOO.

Well, they wouldn't have much of a say if a judge orders her to provide proof.

Imo

 

[RexburgSleuth]

I like this but I also want to see Tammy get justice because in my heart I can't believe for a second she just up and died in her sleep from nothing, and the number of people who would have access to her and wanted her gone is pretty small.

1-3 people are all I can think of. (ETA: And one of them died in December.)

 

[PinkPrincessPoop]

But just the fact that the child has not been living with her indicates that she hasn't been homeschooling him.

Imo

There are also no requirements on WHO homeschools. Parents can teach the school work, or outside tutors can, or other family members, or homeschooling co-ops and "classes." Even "unschooling" is a thing....where they are no teachers and children teach themselves with limited or zero oversight from adults (yes, really). All legally allowed.

 

[fred&edna]

I remember seeing AZ homeschooling legal documentation online - in the name of one of LV's podcast buddies. I've always wondered if LV was associated with this.

 

[MsBetsy]

Probably a moot point considering they first just want to know he's even alive.

I'm low-key surprised they didn't set up house in the area where the faith healers lived and just said, well whoops, we done prayed for them kiddos but they just died on us, bye now.

Well, it might be a pretty good indication that he is not alive. It's a start, anyway.

There must be some way to find out, if it turns out Lori does not turn up with the children.

Imo

 

[MsBetsy]

There are also no requirements on WHO homeschools. Parents can teach the school work, or outside tutors can, or other family members, or homeschooling co-ops and "classes." Even "unschooling" is a thing....where they are no teachers and children teach themselves with limited or zero oversight from adults (yes, really). All legally allowed.

Yes, I know, but Lori can still contact them or give authorities their names and they can verify that the children are safe.

 

[Patch Tuesday]

Yes, I know, but Lori can still contact them or give authorities their names and they can verify that the children are safe.

Yes. She could have done that back in November. Instead she lied and then bolted. That doesn't bode well.
Really I feel like whether or not JJ has been getting a good education is the least of the concerns.

 

[indicolite22]

I used to have a really, really hard time believing he was actively involved in Tammy's death. But, as time goes on, with his actions, everything out in the open, and what else I know, I'm having a hard time believing he was not involved or at least knew what was going to happen prior.

If Tammy was poisoned for example, who could have done it without Chad's knowledge? She died in their house at night, with him present. It's not like there was an intruder involved.

 

[KonaHonu]

I'm curious too, if she had lived on Kauai previously and had that juice truck, which thank God I never saw or went to... with her other husband- she had to have had friends here and her children too what school did they go to? Homeschooling is very common here, her circle would've been small on the island and she would've know it well after living here and repeated returns- she would've known probably more or less what would happen to her in an event like this here, which as we see so far is nothing really. Wheres all the preparing a people people and those who claim to have psychic gifts- why cant they tell us where those kids are?

Tylee went to Kapa'a High School at least one semester. She shows up on the honor roll for Fall 2017. I agree they probably had a circle of friends but they were not on Kauai very long (~1 year) and they likely socialized in Princeville which is hardly a "local community." It's mostly tourists and part time residents. I doubt they had too many local friends.

 

[RexburgSleuth]

Was this posted yet?:
"Kauai PD tells me police are still assisting Rexburg Police as it's RPD's investigation. KPD can't disclose sensitive information right now. I also spoke to a relative close to this case who says it was less than a 1% chance Lori would ever show up in Idaho today."

Justin Lum Fox 10 on Twitter

 

[Portiz34]

if they "get away" i will scream. how have they not had eyes on these 2 for the last 5 days and know exactly where they are at this moment, in case they need to serve them with a warrant when the kids don't show up at 17:00. how is this convoluted mess even real?

And when someone goes missing here... the WHOLE island knows! Smh

 

[PinkPrincessPoop]

Yes, I know, but Lori can still contact them or give authorities their names and they can verify that the children are safe.

Yes, it will have to be done by a claim of neglect/abuse. It's not going to be done through homeschooling alone because there is not enough of a legal avenue for that.

 

[Portiz34]

We have our own communication method on Kauai - its called the "coconut wireless" which can spread faster than any newspaper or social media post

 

[fred&edna]

Kay and Larry Woodcock's 5pm press conference... anyone have a link in preparation for this?