Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #13

[alter idem]

I would say the two cases in AZ that led them are CV's death and the BB shooting... IMO, the BB shooting led them to Lori and the web that progressively gets bigger by the day. I think BB knew and gave all sorts of info that set investigations into motion. He is the key and the one who knew about CV and who knew Lori and that MB was following her aunt's antics...

I think it was the BB shooting that began the digging, since it seems the police had closed the CV shooting as self defense, but maybe the shooting of BB led them to look again at CV's killing and the two cases led to Lori in Rexburg, her new husband and his recently deceased wife. MOO
As I recall, BB was pretty quick in approaching the press to tell about what had happened to him, and that's where we started hearing about his wife and this 'cult'--after the police asked for the public's help in finding the two children about Dec. 20th. MOO

 

[fred&edna]

According to my observation in many cases here, John Lordan's YouTube videos are also allowed. He and Gray Hughes sometimes obtain exclusive interviews with families, friends, witnesses, PIs, etc. involved in a case.

On a side note, sadly it seems that just recently a national tv show rep called GH and told him they now have "rights" to the Woodcocks' story (or something similar). I'm guessing it's Dateline since they've teamed up with Nate E. It's unfortunate as Gray did some of the first YT interviews with Larry & Kay Woodcock. He was the original "scooper" to the story, and created the first "flowchart" of the parties involved... as he realized it was difficult to keep everyone and all the info clear. Not everyone loves GH but his work on this case was great. Also, it seemed the Woodcocks liked his interest and coverage. Sadly, it seems that once the big guys get involved in a story the little guys get knocked to the curb.

All JMO.

 

[WhereIsWaldo]

Is the link still posted somewhere or could you send it to me?

Because of rules on this forum, I can’t share a link. If you are interested in a more insider perspective, go to LDS freedom forum and do a search for news about “Chad Daybell”. All I can offer, at the moment. But, all of those concerned about the welfare of these kids, be assured that local law enforcement including assistance from the FBI, in several jurisdictions, are working hard to find information about the whereabouts of these children, dead or alive.

 

[Gardener1850]

I need some timeline and sleuthing help. Have we discussed the video below yet?

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At about 1:28 in the video the reporter says that the PI saw Alex helping Melani load up a U-haul in Gilbert, AZ at the "end of October" but the video goes on to say "2 days later" Brandon was shot at. Well that doesn't make any sense, since Brandon was shot at on Oct 2. Do we think the end of Oct date is correct and "two days later" part is an error? Or did they mean End of September and misspoke when they said Oct?

Also, here are some photos from the PI in that story that I had not seen posted here:

The video goes on to show a picture of a Jeep with a Texas license plate as the reporter talks about the drive-by attempt on BB.
I'm trying to figure out if this picture is of the actual Jeep or if it's a stock photo:

I'm confused on the Jeep:
1. It doesn't look green.
2. It doesn't look like a Cherokee to me.
3. It shows a clear license plate number which almost seems too clear for a CCTV image.

Anyone know if there is there a way to check this plate number to see if it's registered to Charles Vallow? TIA.

MOO.

 

[mickey2942]

Fry sauce and the economy are the reasons why I moved to Utah, funeral potatoes are why I stay. I think they're even selling funeral potatoes at Walmart now.

I wrote something silly about "fry sauce" and it was deleted. Anyone from Idaho would have got the joke.

You really need to be from Idaho or Utah to understand the culture and fry sauce! Funeral potatoes, Jello.

 

[indicolite22]

On a side note, sadly it seems that just recently a national tv show rep called GH and told him they now have "rights" to the Woodcocks' story (or something similar). I'm guessing it's Dateline since they've teamed up with Nate E. It's unfortunate as Gray did some of the first YT interviews with Larry & Kay Woodcock. He was the original "scooper" to the story, and created the first "flowchart" of the parties involved... as he realized it was difficult to keep everyone and all the info clear. Not everyone loves GH but his work on this case was great. Also, it seemed the Woodcocks liked his interest and coverage. Sadly, it seems that once the big guys get involved in a story the little guys get knocked to the curb.

All JMO.

I posted about that a few days ago. Gray couldn't remember which show the caller represented.

 

[indicolite22]

At about 1:28 in the video the reporter says that the PI saw Alex helping Melani load up a U-haul in Gilbert, AZ at the "end of October" but the video goes on to say "2 days later" Brandon was shot at. Well that doesn't make any sense, since Brandon was shot at on Oct 2. Do we think the end of Oct date is correct and "two days later" part is an error? Or did they mean End of September and misspoke when they said Oct?

If Brandon hired the PI only after the shooting, then the PI would not have followed Melani in September.

 

[carbuff]

I need some timeline and sleuthing help. Have we discussed the video below yet?

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At about 1:28 in the video the reporter says that the PI saw Alex helping Melani load up a U-haul in Gilbert, AZ at the "end of October" but the video goes on to say "2 days later" Brandon was shot at. Well that doesn't make any sense, since Brandon was shot at on Oct 2. Do we think the end of Oct date is correct and "two days later" part is an error? Or did they mean End of September and misspoke when they said Oct?

Also, here are some photos from the PI in that story that I had not seen posted here:
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The video goes on to show a picture of a Jeep with a Texas license plate as the reporter talks about the drive-by attempt on BB.
I'm trying to figure out if this picture is of the actual Jeep or if it's a stock photo:

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I'm confused on the Jeep:
1. It doesn't look green.
2. It doesn't look like a Cherokee to me.
3. It shows a clear license plate number which almost seems too clear for a CCTV image.

Anyone know if there is there a way to check this plate number to see if it's registered to Charles Vallow? TIA.

MOO.

It doesn't look like a Cherokee to me either? But does seem to be green, that drab dull olive green Jeep uses. It looks gray because of the dull light and poor camera, I think?

I think the license plate shows up so clearly because the headlights of the UHaul are shining on it, making it reflect.

 

[Gardener1850]

If Brandon hired the PI only after the shooting, then the PI would not have followed Melani in September.

Your'e right, good catch. Also, Melani texted Brandon on Oct 16 to say she was moving to ID. So end of Oct makes more sense for when the PI saw them with a Uhaul there. MOO.

 

[ReadyorNot]

On a side note, sadly it seems that just recently a national tv show rep called GH and told him they now have "rights" to the Woodcocks' story (or something similar). I'm guessing it's Dateline since they've teamed up with Nate E. It's unfortunate as Gray did some of the first YT interviews with Larry & Kay Woodcock. He was the original "scooper" to the story, and created the first "flowchart" of the parties involved... as he realized it was difficult to keep everyone and all the info clear. Not everyone loves GH but his work on this case was great. Also, it seemed the Woodcocks liked his interest and coverage. Sadly, it seems that once the big guys get involved in a story the little guys get knocked to the curb.

All JMO.

I don't think that is a bad thing if it was my family member missing I would want national coverage vs a YouTuber. So loyalty and sympathy for GH should not outweigh the best interest of the kids, or justice.

 

[Gardener1850]

It doesn't look like a Cherokee to me either? But does seem to be green, that drab dull olive green Jeep uses. It looks gray because of the dull light and poor camera, I think?

I think the license plate shows up so clearly because the headlights of the UHaul are shining on it, making it reflect.

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BBM. I don't think the Jeep picture has a Uhaul in it. I thought if that was a photo of the Jeep used to shoot at Brandon then it's from the crime on Oct 2. Or are you thinking that is another photo from the PI not from the CCTV that captured the shooters car on Oct 2nd?

MOO.

 

[BigAl16]

I wrote something silly about "fry sauce" and it was deleted. Anyone from Idaho would have got the joke.

You really need to be from Idaho or Utah to understand the culture and fry sauce! Funeral potatoes, Jello.

Yup. Someone (I think maybe in a comment here) referred to the area as the "jello belt" which was one I hadn't heard before, but immediately understood.

 

[fred&edna]

I don't think that is a bad thing if it was my family member missing I would want national coverage vs a YouTuber. So loyalty and sympathy for GH should not outweigh the best interest of the kids, or justice.

Oh yes... Absolutely! Finding the children is the primary goal! I just respected the work GH did with regard to the case and especially his interviews with the family. I just wished they worked "with" him... That was my only point.

 

[jjenny]

It doesn't look like a Cherokee to me either? But does seem to be green, that drab dull olive green Jeep uses. It looks gray because of the dull light and poor camera, I think?

I think the license plate shows up so clearly because the headlights of the UHaul are shining on it, making it reflect.

I run it on free search websites. It comes back as 2018 Jeep Wrangler Sport. But they want money for owners name.

 

[carbuff]

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BBM. I don't think the Jeep picture has a Uhaul in it. I thought if that was a photo of the Jeep used to shoot at Brandon then it's from the crime on Oct 2. Or are you thinking that is another photo from the PI not from the CCTV that captured the shooters car on Oct 2nd?

MOO.

Yes, I thought it was one of the PI's photos--the vehicle looks to me like it's in a garage. But it might not be. If it's a CCTV picture, it's awfully good.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

On a side note, sadly it seems that just recently a national tv show rep called GH and told him they now have "rights" to the Woodcocks' story (or something similar). I'm guessing it's Dateline since they've teamed up with Nate E. It's unfortunate as Gray did some of the first YT interviews with Larry & Kay Woodcock. He was the original "scooper" to the story, and created the first "flowchart" of the parties involved... as he realized it was difficult to keep everyone and all the info clear. Not everyone loves GH but his work on this case was great. Also, it seemed the Woodcocks liked his interest and coverage. Sadly, it seems that once the big guys get involved in a story the little guys get knocked to the curb.

All JMO.

You would only get “rights” to a story by selling them. So I’d ask the Woodcocks if they signed a deal with a movie, book, or news producer.

 

[indicolite22]

I think it was the BB shooting that began the digging, since it seems the police had closed the CV shooting as self defense, but maybe the shooting of BB led them to look again at CV's killing and the two cases led to Lori in Rexburg, her new husband and his recently deceased wife. MOO
As I recall, BB was pretty quick in approaching the press to tell about what had happened to him, and that's where we started hearing about his wife and this 'cult'--after the police asked for the public's help in finding the two children about Dec. 20th. MOO

BBM. From what is implied in the news reports, Gilbert police inquired about Tammy "within days" after her death and possibly before Lori and Chad got married and before their union became known. If that is actually the case, it would be interesting to know what led the police from Lori to Chad.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

BBM. From what is implied in the news reports, Gilbert police inquired about Tammy "within days" after her death and possibly before Lori and Chad got married and before their union became known. If that is actually the case, it would be interesting to know what led the police from Lori to Chad.

Don’t you think all it would take is one single interview with the Woodcocks? I mean they knew about the video being sent in January.

 

[mickey2942]

Oh yes... Absolutely! Finding the children is the primary goal! I just respected the work GH did with regard to the case and especially his interviews with the family. I just wished they worked "with" him... That was my only point.

I personally find it offensive that Chad and Lori Daybell attended an LDS church last week. It was grandstanding and distasteful.

The fact that they attend church, while blatantly flaunting requests from LEO to just verify that the children are alive, is beyond repugnant and their church attendance makes it appear that the LDS church supports their actions.

End the drama, show a picture of the children.

 

[jjenny]

Yes, I thought it was one of the PI's photos--the vehicle looks to me like it's in a garage. But it might not be. If it's a CCTV picture, it's awfully good.

Yea, maybe it's a stock vehicle.