Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #15

[mickey2942]

I just want to make sure to rule things out, and clarify if I have missed something. Are we CERTAIN that the kids are not in HI? Just wondering if there could have been any way they could have come in on a private plane?? Have we had any statement from LE that they have flight records of L and C and nobody else??

No one knows where these children are.

The impression that I received from the "Dateline" show, is that LEO is collecting evidence at this time.

 

[canyonoflight]

Has anyone posted this yet?

Indiana woman believes she saw missing Rexburg teen Tylee Ryan

Yeah, it's been posted and discussed. A lot of people think it's a false ID, I hope it was real personally.

 

[Tricia]

Hey Everyone,

Please welcome our newest verified member of Websleuths, Randocalrissian.

Randocalrissian has been able to verify that he is a family friend of Chad and Tammy Daybell. Short of hiring a private detective to search through his garbage, I feel Randocalrissian is 100 percent legit and is truthful in what he is telling us about the Daybells.

Please remember you are allowed to ask verified members questions but if you disagree or don't feel the verified member is being truthful you must simply scroll past. You are not allowed to argue or be disrespectful to verified members.

In return, Randocalrissian will be providing us with an inside look into the people involved in this case in ways no one else can.

Verified members are allowed to post statements as facts without a link to mainstream media or law enforcement outlets. It is up to you to believe our verified members or not. There is no reason to think Randocalrissian is not being truthful. Just the opposite. I found our newest verified member to be a delightful person who is very sincere.

Thank you all for continuing to keep this discussion lively, to say the least

Still hoping and praying the kids are alive.

Thank you,
Tricia

 

[BigAl16]

On the subject of faith/beliefs and this group of people... I was reading on an LDS affiliated forum that has been mentioned here on WS a few times that I probably can't mention? I'm not sure. Not sure I can even say what the gist of what I was reading is so mods please snip or delete if I am out of line. People posting over there are saying things like (I am paraphrasing, not a direct quote) "The leader should send some of his security to Kauai and sit down with CD and explain this media frenzy is hurting us. They need to tell CD to admit publicly what he knows and get the cameras away from us."

This is the first I had encountered the idea that CD wasn't driving the crazy train. I had assumed it was maybe not CD but he had equal standing with 1 or 2 others to be in charge. Maybe some pressure from within whatever that group is can bring this mess to an end? I honestly hadn't considered this being bad from their perspective. MOO

Hmm. One group (it's acronym starts and ends with the same letter) has been doing whatever it can to distance themselves from him and, FWIW and MOO, may not be as out there as CD and the like. The other group (4 letter acronym with reference to nuptials in those 4 letters) may be deserving of part of the credit.

MOO

 

[Colorado303]

If we assume the claim that no one from Rexburg PD nor from the Center for Missing Children followed up with her is untrue and they really did, at a minimum call her back to get details (or didn't call back, but talked to her and got the details they needed on the initial call) then this could be one of those. If they in fact did not call back and things went down as the lady claims then I'd say calling this one totally unfounded would be unreasonable or misleading, even if the FBI did investigate and came to that conclusion.

Edit to add: Gardner1850's theory that the RPD could have had information that ruled out Tylee as being who they saw so they didn't call back would work too. The Center for Exploited Children, however, I don't understand the lack of call back.

Neither do I, which makes me wonder if there ever was a call. I for one am giving benefit of the doubt to LE instead of some thirsty SM wannabe.

Again, MOO

 

[KonaHonu]

I just want to make sure to rule things out, and clarify if I have missed something. Are we CERTAIN that the kids are not in HI? Just wondering if there could have been any way they could have come in on a private plane?? Have we had any statement from LE that they have flight records of L and C and nobody else??

They could have easily come in on a private plane. As others have pointed out, they could even have flown commercial under false names since minors don't need ID apparently. I don't think they are in Hawaii but I don't think we can say that with certainty.

 

[Ohmeohmy]

Febuary 16.2020
Video in link
JJ Vallow's grandparents speak out on his adopted mother - Local News 8

 

[Angelcat13]

Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix

Valentine’s Day. A day that meant so much to Charles Vallow. Kay Vallow Woodcock just shared something so personal with me. 2/14 was the wedding anniversary for Charles and Lori Vallow. Today would have been 14 years. Valentine’s Day 2019 — Kay watched Charles take his ring off with tears in his eyes. She says he told her “I can’t believe this is happening.” 2/14/20 — here we are. Charles isn’t. Photo courtesy: Kay Woodcock

So sad.

 

[DoctorAttorney]

Hello, Rando! I'm new... But thanks for the insight, it's super nice of you to come... I'm a longtime lurker but I decided to join tonight, so glad I did!

 

[jjenny]

They could have easily come in on a private plane. As others have pointed out, they could even have flown commercial under false names since minors don't need ID apparently. I don't think they are in Hawaii but I don't think we can say that with certainty.

Private planes cost a lot of money.

 

[jjenny]

Has anyone posted this yet?

Indiana woman believes she saw missing Rexburg teen Tylee Ryan

Yea, cause that's what you are going to do with a child that is missing and on the news, take her to a music concert. Sounds to me like it were grandma and grandpa with their grandkid.

 

[DoctorAttorney]

Private planes cost a lot of money.

Seems like they have a bit, staying in Hawaii very suddenly, no? I can't imagine Chad is making a lot of cash from his small book publishing business. And now that this is out there, aren't his public speaking gigs all gone?

 

[CSIDreamer]

Hello, Rando! I'm new... But thanks for the insight, it's super nice of you to come... I'm a longtime lurker but I decided to join tonight, so glad I did!

Welcome aboard!

 

[holsen]

BTO is just an individual who was connected to another Gilbert AZ death from a few years back... I think we were informed by rules here that it was not appropriate to bring up again..

I appreciate you explaining that to us! I've been seeing "BTO" for days here and was confused about what it meant. Thanks!

 

[BigAl16]

Seems like they have a bit, staying in Hawaii very suddenly, no? I can't imagine Chad is making a lot of cash from his small book publishing business. And now that this is out there, aren't his public speaking gigs all gone?

And from what we've been able to tell the public speaking gigs didn't pay directly although they probably boosted his book sales.

 

[DoctorAttorney]

Welcome aboard!

Thanks, lol. I actually joined because I had some odd ideas, but I think I should read more now. You all know a lot more than me about this case, but these Mormon prepper groups are too much.

 

[Colorado303]

Dbm—someone beat me to it

 

[Colorado303]

Oh heck yeah... I think it's known as Beach Blonde Bikini Sabbath according the Book of Lori Chapter 1 Verse 7.

Jmo

Yep, possibly OK as Sabbath-wear as long as you keep the sunglasses on.

 

[DoctorAttorney]

Actually, I should be honest. I did join for a reason. I had a question that has been bugging me.

Have the police, MSM, friends, or anyone else looked into the possibility that Lori stashed the kids in one of those Utah LDS reform camps for troubled kids and teens? I don't have any evidence this could have happened at all but one of my LDS friends got sent to one in high school, and when she came back, she said that a lot of kids only got sent to them by their very religious parents or even in some cases, the state, because their care givers just wanted to be rid of them but still pay lip service to conservative values. If Lori and Chad really wanted to get rid of the kids, and they have money to burn, I could see them paying to send the kids away for a time rather than risk some more drastic action.

I don't know if this has any credence to it, but I just was wondering if it's came up as a possibility or not.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Seems like they have a bit, staying in Hawaii very suddenly, no? I can't imagine Chad is making a lot of cash from his small book publishing business. And now that this is out there, aren't his public speaking gigs all gone?

always, always my question...Where is the money coming from. The only one who even seems to be working is IP, new husband of MBp. Unless it is underground money coming from somewhere...