If Terri is guilty...why isn't she cracking?

[BetteDavisEyes]

I thought he just didn't want her talking to media?

I'm not on clear on what the comment meant. Kaine also sent or had someone put out an email to his colleagues at Intel instructing them not to talk. The memo was rather cryptic, imo, and I'm not exactly sure what was expected of his fellow employees. jmo

 

[Curious Me]

There's just one part of this that I can't agree with. IF she is innocent (which I don't believe she is) she should STILL be talking to police as much as she can to try to convince them of her innocence. The longer it takes to get LE to believe she's innocent, the longer it'll be before they redirect their focus elsewhere.

If you were an innocent mother, accused of disappearing your child, wouldn't you be yelling "It wasn't me! WTH do I need to do to make you BELIEVE me so you will go find who REALLY took my kid! I want my baby back!"

So you see, her being silent IS hindering the search for Kyron. If she's innocent, she's not doing her part to get the LE resources redirected off of her and onto other more useful places. :-(

To me, this is the reason I believe she is guilty.

MOO of course.

BBM Yep. Her silence, and lack of participation in the search for Kyron. Kyron's still missing and she should be wanting to find him either because she loves him or she wants to clear herself, but her silence at this point says alot.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Respectfully edited (sp). Reportedly, Kaine advised Terri not to talk. I've never quite understood what this was all about and would really like to know what it was that he didn't want TMH to discuss openly. A friend of Terri's supposedly said that the public would benefit from hearing from her but she was doing as Kaine instructed and not talking.

I don't have a file on this case and can't come up with the link right away, but if someone has it readily available, please post. Thanks!

As someone posted above it was the media that the friend was saying that Kaine did not want Terri talking to. I dont have the link either, its the interview of her friend in the driveway of the Horman home after Kaine had left and Terri stuck her head out the door and said to the friend"Hey I need you for a sec" while the friend was talking to the reporter in the driveway.

So, I don't think there was anything nefarious in what Kaine had said to do. It was in the beginning when none of the family were talking to the media...I don't think in any way was Kaine instructing her not to talk to LE, rather just at that time not to talk to the media.

 

[TxLady2]

IF she is guilty...

She hasn't been named a POI, hasn't been named a suspect, hasn't been arrested, hasn't been charged, and may never be. She has a fantastic attorney. She has a home with her parents. She appears to have a car to drive. I assume her parents are feeding her and providing her with the necessities of life. She's got cell phones :angel:

Why in the world would she crack now and blow everything?

Remember that little thing called the grand jury that is going on right now?
LE doesn't have to label her a suspect, it's pretty clear that she IS. Who else are the grand jury considering whether to indict?
As one expert said not long ago... she is and has been a suspect from almost the beginning. The label we are likely to see in the near future is "The Accused." They will charge her with something, count on it.
As to her not cracking... how many convicted murderers do you ever hear admitting that they did it? Maybe while they're sitting in prison. But not until after the trial. (Well... if they admitted it before the trial, there wouldn't be a trial, right?)
She's pretty tough. I don't look for her to crack........ ever.

 

[eyes4crime]

BBM Yep. Her silence, and lack of participation in the search for Kyron. Kyron's still missing and she should be wanting to find him either because she loves him or she wants to clear herself, but her silence at this point says alot.

Hi Curious Me...I would love to know who is searching for Kyron? LE seems very busy trying to prove Terri's guilt. I know it looks bad, but I'm sure Terri is not participating because her attorney instructed her to silence...she went a full month with no attorney. So far no one has called in Tim Miller, with Equusearch. Gosh, I wish TM and crew would show up. Who, if anyone (except LE), ever actively searched? TIA

 

[cypress]

It really doesn't matter. What we know about Terri, and about various other people who commit murder, there are some sort of familiar characteristics they all share. No one here is claiming to diagnose her, but I think ignoring the obvious is very dangerous.

What do we know about Terri, though?

The reports are all over the map. IMHO, public opinion about Terri has been shaped in large part by Desiree; however, Desiree's assertions about Terri have been contradicted by the statements of others and other evidence. Desiree says Terri lied about her early relationship with Kaine, but Kaine contradicted Desiree about the early relationship he had with Terri. It wasn't a difference of opinion, it was a contradiction. Desiree asserted Terri wouldn't or couldn't account for her whereabouts on June 4; however, Terri did give an account of her whereabouts. So far, the account of her whereabouts, dating to an e-mail the day after Kyron went missing, checks out. A witness testified before the Grand Jury that Terri was in the store in which she claimed to be shopping, that she was holding baby K who wasn't feeling well, and that she was searching for medicine for the baby. This is exactly what Terri claimed to be doing in her e-mail. Others, including friends and an ex-husband, assert Terri is a wonderful, loving mother who volunteered in her son's classroom and loves her children. When pressed, not even Desiree could deny that Terri had given Kyron what he needed.

Terri got a DUI. Unidentified sources hiding behind the safety of anonymity can indirectly accuse her through Kaine of sneaking booze, but all we know is that five years ago she had one DUI and has never had another.

She was the subject of a sting about a MFH plot. We know the landscaper who says he spoke with her about it didn't come forward of his own accord. We know Terri called 911 when he tried to extort money from her.

After weeks of intense media and law enforcement scrutiny, being the subject of a sting in which she was accused of trying to hire a landscaper to murder her husband, Kaine left, took the baby, filed for divorce, and had Terri served with a RO, she began a sexual relationship of some sort with Michael Cook, a high school friend of Kaine's. Among the racy texts she sent him, she also expressed that she missed Kyron and baby K.

IMHO, this case is anything but obvious, and we know very little about Terri. We're told what to think about her, we're led and fed and there are plenty of accusations and implications to go around, but we don't know much about her.

 

[Skully]

I don't see a reason for her to "crack". If she did this, it is stupid of her to just give it up now. If she did this, she had a reason at the time and if they don't find him or a body, why confess? As long as they can't connect any evidence to her, she won't be named a POI. I hope that doesn't come across as smug, but so many people have gotten away with murder, simply because LE couldn't find evidence that would convict them. So I don't see her saying a word unless he is found.

 

[Curious Me]

Hi Curious Me...I would love to know who is searching for Kyron? LE seems very busy trying to prove Terri's guilt. I know it looks bad, but I'm sure Terri is not participating because her attorney instructed her to silence...she went a full month with no attorney. So far no one has called in Tim Miller, with Equusearch. Gosh, I wish TM and crew would show up. Who, if anyone (except LE), ever actively searched? TIA

It's odd, isn't it? Kyron still needs to be found.

 

[Jack]

There's just one part of this that I can't agree with. IF she is innocent (which I don't believe she is) she should STILL be talking to police as much as she can to try to convince them of her innocence. The longer it takes to get LE to believe she's innocent, the longer it'll be before they redirect their focus elsewhere.

If you were an innocent mother, accused of disappearing your child, wouldn't you be yelling "It wasn't me! WTH do I need to do to make you BELIEVE me so you will go find who REALLY took my kid! I want my baby back!"

So you see, her being silent IS hindering the search for Kyron. If she's innocent, she's not doing her part to get the LE resources redirected off of her and onto other more useful places. :-(

To me, this is the reason I believe she is guilty.

MOO of course.

TH doesn't have to convince anyone she is innocent. Under the law in this country you have the assumption of innocence until proven otherwise. However, she has been interviewed and re-interviewed by LE and they are still concentrating on her. It would appear she has already told them she had nothing to do with it and they don't believe her. And it doesn't seem as though they are questioning her anymore since she has an attorney. How does that make her guilty?

 

[gwenabob]

She is alleged to have asked someone to kill her husband. And whatever happened, the person she is alleged to have asked did not feel that the incident was important enough to immediately report it to the police.

The latter is a major point for the defense, IMHO.

Most important--alleged.

1. We don't know that he never reported it, do we? Do we have a link? I don't remember reading that. Maybe he did report it but LE at the time didn't think it was important--until Kyron disappeared.

2. Maybe he didn't report it, but for different reasons--like immigration status or some other unrelated reason. I can think of lots of reasons people want to avoid LE even if (or especially if) they are witness to a crime.

3. Could simply be a cultural difference. People from other countries view LE in a different way and fear them more than rely on them.

 

[Jack]

What do we know about Terri, though?

The reports are all over the map. IMHO, public opinion about Terri has been shaped in large part by Desiree; however, Desiree's assertions about Terri have been contradicted by the statements of others and other evidence. Desiree says Terri lied about her early relationship with Kaine, but Kaine contradicted Desiree about the early relationship he had with Terri. It wasn't a difference of opinion, it was a contradiction. Desiree asserted Terri wouldn't or couldn't account for her whereabouts on June 4; however, Terri did give an account of her whereabouts. So far, the account of her whereabouts, dating to an e-mail the day after Kyron went missing, checks out. A witness testified before the Grand Jury that Terri was in the store in which she claimed to be shopping, that she was holding baby K who wasn't feeling well, and that she was searching for medicine for the baby. This is exactly what Terri claimed to be doing in her e-mail. Others, including friends and an ex-husband, assert Terri is a wonderful, loving mother who volunteered in her son's classroom and loves her children. When pressed, not even Desiree could deny that Terri had given Kyron what he needed.

Terri got a DUI. Unidentified sources hiding behind the safety of anonymity can indirectly accuse her through Kaine of sneaking booze, but all we know is that five years ago she had one DUI and has never had another.

She was the subject of a sting about a MFH plot. We know the landscaper who says he spoke with her about it didn't come forward of his own accord. We know Terri called 911 when he tried to extort money from her.

After weeks of intense media and law enforcement scrutiny, being the subject of a sting in which she was accused of trying to hire a landscaper to murder her husband, Kaine left, took the baby, filed for divorce, and had Terri served with a RO, she began a sexual relationship of some sort with Michael Cook, a high school friend of Kaine's. Among the racy texts she sent him, she also expressed that she missed Kyron and baby K.

IMHO, this case is anything but obvious, and we know very little about Terri. We're told what to think about her, we're led and fed and there are plenty of accusations and implications to go around, but we don't know much about her.

Thanks for this well thought out post. I think you've captured the reasons many of us are disturbed by the outright untruths being thrown about like they are fact in regards to TH.

 

[Nana46]

Don't know where to put this but I am curious as to what you all think are the prime reasons LE said in the beginning, the very beginning, that this was not something the community should be alarmed about....not exact wording but meaning "no one" out there on the loose more or less kidnapping children....what I wonder is what instantly had them focusing in the direction that they were?

 

[gwenabob]

Don't know where to put this but I am curious as to what you all think are the prime reasons LE said in the beginning, the very beginning, that this was not something the community should be alarmed about....not exact wording but meaning "no one" out there on the loose more or less kidnapping children....what I wonder is what instantly had them focusing in the direction that they were?

Simple answer? Hink stinks and Terri reeked.

Long answer? Years and years of experience and LE were able to connect the dots pretty quickly. I think it took about a week for LE to really zero in on Terri based on lots and lots of clues.

 

[Barry]

IF she is guilty, your question is already answered. Anyone who would harm an innocent child is inherently evil. Why would they all of a sudden care what people think or say about them?

 

[Curious Me]

TMH is somewhat quiet according to Andrea that testified at the GJ.

See video on the right of page.
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/n...ter-with/ZRn4GrYpt0a0BAxulU8rEA.cspx?rss=1100

 

[pufnstuf]

Maybe it's just me...

But I feel that sending cell-phone photos of your no-nos to your husband's high school buddy is a form of cracking.

 

[Kat010]

What do we know about Terri, though?

The reports are all over the map. IMHO, public opinion about Terri has been shaped in large part by Desiree; however, Desiree's assertions about Terri have been contradicted by the statements of others and other evidence. Desiree says Terri lied about her early relationship with Kaine, but Kaine contradicted Desiree about the early relationship he had with Terri. It wasn't a difference of opinion, it was a contradiction. Desiree asserted Terri wouldn't or couldn't account for her whereabouts on June 4; however, Terri did give an account of her whereabouts. So far, the account of her whereabouts, dating to an e-mail the day after Kyron went missing, checks out. A witness testified before the Grand Jury that Terri was in the store in which she claimed to be shopping, that she was holding baby K who wasn't feeling well, and that she was searching for medicine for the baby. This is exactly what Terri claimed to be doing in her e-mail. Others, including friends and an ex-husband, assert Terri is a wonderful, loving mother who volunteered in her son's classroom and loves her children. When pressed, not even Desiree could deny that Terri had given Kyron what he needed.

Terri got a DUI. Unidentified sources hiding behind the safety of anonymity can indirectly accuse her through Kaine of sneaking booze, but all we know is that five years ago she had one DUI and has never had another.

She was the subject of a sting about a MFH plot. We know the landscaper who says he spoke with her about it didn't come forward of his own accord. We know Terri called 911 when he tried to extort money from her.

After weeks of intense media and law enforcement scrutiny, being the subject of a sting in which she was accused of trying to hire a landscaper to murder her husband, Kaine left, took the baby, filed for divorce, and had Terri served with a RO, she began a sexual relationship of some sort with Michael Cook, a high school friend of Kaine's. Among the racy texts she sent him, she also expressed that she missed Kyron and baby K.

IMHO, this case is anything but obvious, and we know very little about Terri. We're told what to think about her, we're led and fed and there are plenty of accusations and implications to go around, but we don't know much about her.

Worth repeating. Great summation. Thanks.

 

[Jack]

Don't know where to put this but I am curious as to what you all think are the prime reasons LE said in the beginning, the very beginning, that this was not something the community should be alarmed about....not exact wording but meaning "no one" out there on the loose more or less kidnapping children....what I wonder is what instantly had them focusing in the direction that they were?

I think it is because they had already formed an opinion. IMO, they should have had some very solid evidence before they made that statement. Also IMO, egos can get involved when someone jumps the gun and then has to find evidence to back up their statement rather than the other way around.

 

[Calliope]

Or, as an former FBI expert noted early on, a pedophile is going to lay low or even leave the area after a high-profile crime like this. (paraphrased)

 

[Jack]

Maybe it's just me...

But I feel that sending cell-phone photos of your no-nos to your husband's high school buddy is a form of cracking.

Have you seen the photos?