IL - Actor Jussie Smollett allegedly attacked in hate crime being black & gay Jan 2019 #2*ARRESTS*

[MassGuy]

So they ain't out of the woods yet. If they did this at the behest of someone else, I hope they have some evidence. Like how they got paid, or something else.

IF they can prove there was a rehearsal, that is pretty solid evidence that they were asked to do this stunt.

Yeah, I really don’t think there’s going to be any problem in that regard.

This was an absolutely ridiculous scenario, and there’s just no way that he was able to cover his tracks.

I’ll be willing to bet that they will be able to go back, and catch them together, scouting out the area on camera.

This won’t be a he said, they said.

 

[katydid23]

Why are they calling these 'anonymous' accusations? He knows these guys that are making these claims. And they do not fit the eyewitness account that JS gave to the police and the public.

And are they saying that refusing to answer questions, about a police report he filed, is 'an appropriate and respectful' way to handle this?

 

[AmandaSkis]

That is such a non-statement. I wonder how much the crisis management team charged him for their time to craft that.

 

[mickey2942]

Could JS be so Machiavellian as to flip this all on the African brothers? The police found the cut up magazines in their apartment, they bought the rope, and the hats. They admit to being there, and beating Smollett.

Cellphone records and money could all be explained by JS saying he was paying them for personal training. JS can say he thought they were white, in his terror, because of what they said, and they were in warm clothing with gloves, face masks, hats.

Reasonable doubt all over. JS walks. Still with his "victimhood" intact. He can cry again, that no one believed he was attacked, in fear of his life, only to find out it was by some people he was trying to help.

The Chicago PD wanted to make him look bad, because they are...

 

[Puzzles8]

That is such a non-statement. I wonder how much the crisis management team charged him for their time to craft that.

I think what a crisis management team does best - issue non-statements.
Gosh, they get arrested or sued if they issued a false one......

 

[Puzzles8]

It's one thing to file a false police report.
It is quite another to go on a national press junket to promote and personally benefit from it...........at the expense of real victims.

 

[gitana1]

And the reverse is also true, and Smollett just proved it. Racist heterophobia is also a problem.

No. It's not. There has never been a history of institutionalized oppression against heterosexuals or white people. There have never been laws against straight people or white people.

When white, heterosexual people face two hundred plus years of discrimination, then we can talk.

 

[MassGuy]

Could JS be so Machiavellian as to flip this all on the African brothers? The police found the cut up magazines in their apartment, they bought the rope, and the hats. They admit to being there, and beating Smollett.

Cellphone records and money could all be explained by JS saying he was paying them for personal training. JS can say he thought they were white, in his terror, because of what they said, and they were in warm clothing with gloves, face masks, hats.

Reasonable doubt all over. JS walks. Still with his "victimhood" intact. He can cry again, that no one believed he was attacked, in fear of his life, only to find out it was by some people he was trying to help.

I’m not even a little worried about something like that happening.

A criminal mastermind would struggle to pull that off, and JS may just turn out to be the worst criminal in history.

A man so arrogant, so completely out of touch with reality, thought he could sell a story that to most of us, was laughable.

If he thought that he could pull that off, then there’s just no way that he sufficiently covered his tracks before hand. And I truly doubt that anyone could.

There is going to be cell phone data, surveillance footage, and numerous pieces of physical evidence that likely proves that he was acting in concert with these two men.

We’ve already heard some damning information, and I think that will be the least of it.

 

[gitana1]

But if we are to abandon critical thinking in favor of believing an implausible story in the name of believing every victim, without question, that does a huge disservice to the people who are falsely implicated. Those people are the true victims.
IMO, a big part of the problem in our country today, and a big part of the divisions between us, is the abandonment of critical thinking, and the automatic, emotional belief in any statement, no matter how extreme or unlikely, as long as it fits a given world view.

His story was pretty clearly suspect from the beginning. Had CPD not been on top of things, had he not been exposed by (granted, unnamed) LE sources, innocent people would still be being blamed, and anyone sceptical accused of racism and bigotry.

We must not abandon our critical thinking skills to such an extent that it prevents us from discerning the true victim. That is also injustice.

Yes. Well said.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

No. It's not. There has never been a history of institutionalized oppression agains heterosexuals or people of color. There have never been laws against straight people or white people.

When white, heterosexual people face two hundred plus years of discrimination, then we can talk.

Yet we have people like Smollett using racism and heterophobia. By the way, there are no laws against any people. This is the 21st century. Lets not dwell in the past, it only makes things worse.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

I think what a crisis management team does best - issue non-statements.
Gosh, they get arrested or sued if they issued a false one......

This is the same crisis management team that did such a good job for Weinstein /s

 

[Puzzles8]

No. It's not. There has never been a history of institutionalized oppression agains heterosexuals or people of color. There have never been laws against straight people or white people.

When white, heterosexual people face two hundred plus years of discrimination, then we can talk.

How do we start to constructively move forward?

 

[jggordo]

You would think that a Crisis Management firm would work under the guise, even business cards saying "Therapist or Social Work". When you hire these people and right out of the gate you are admitting I gotta' Crisis goin' on here...U really add to the problem.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

I’m not even a little worried about something like that happening.

A criminal mastermind would struggle to pull that off, and JS may just turn out to be the worst criminal in history.

A man so arrogant, so completely out of touch with reality, thought he could sell a story that to most of us, was laughable.

If he thought that he could pull that off, then there’s just no way that he sufficiently covered his tracks before hand. And I truly doubt that anyone could.

There is going to be cell phone data, surveillance footage, and numerous pieces of physical evidence that likely proves that he was acting in concert with these two men.

We’ve already heard some damning information, and I think that will be the least of it.

He basically challenged every police agency with jurisdiction to put their A-team on it and be ready to throw the book at whoever was involved with him going on GMA and broadcasting internationally that LE agencies wouldn't catch the perps due to his status.

 

[cybervampira]

Could JS be so Machiavellian as to flip this all on the African brothers? The police found the cut up magazines in their apartment, they bought the rope, and the hats. They admit to being there, and beating Smollett.

Cellphone records and money could all be explained by JS saying he was paying them for personal training. JS can say he thought they were white, in his terror, because of what they said, and they were in warm clothing with gloves, face masks, hats.

Reasonable doubt all over. JS walks. Still with his "victimhood" intact. He can cry again, that no one believed he was attacked, in fear of his life, only to find out it was by some people he was trying to help.

The Chicago PD wanted to make him look bad, because they are...

Won’t fly with a jury and will only make him look very stupid. But wait... maybe not a bad idea if he wants to go with an insanity defense. Paranoid schizophrenia maybe?

 

[jggordo]

Does anybody know when the Season Finale is scheduled for this show Empire?

 

[cybervampira]

Does anybody know when the Season Finale is scheduled for this show Empire?

Soon at Cook County Criminal Court?

 

[gitana1]

Yet we have people like Smollett using racism and heterophobia. By the way, there are no laws against any people. This is the 21st century. Lets not dwell in the past, it only makes things worse.

Number one, the "past" is as little as a few years ago. Oppressive laws have been in place all over until recently. Number two, the reasons for those laws stem from entrenched attitudes that don't disappear simply because the laws change or because people decide to be colorblind. Number three, the effects of a couple hundred years of institutionalized racism continue today. And effect attitudes today.

Smollet as other hoaxers are capitalizing on on-going racism and homophobia that is absolutely rampant in our society. Right now.

Visit any yahoo comments section on any crime committed by anyone with a Hispanic last name or who is black and you'll see. It's insane.

This is not the past. It's now. Which makes it even more disgusting that someone would lie about something like this. He needs to pay serious consequences for this.

 

[MyBelle]

CWB Chicago: Smollett threat letter called "enormous mistake"; Purported attack location identified; Federal charges "certain"

New Developments
Two Lakeview brothers who were previously considered “persons of interest” in Smollett’s purported attack told police during interrogations last week that Smollett staged the hate crime because he was upset that the threat letter did not get enough attention, ABC7 Chicago reported Monday afternoon. Detectives are investigating their claim.

Meanwhile, the FBI and the U.S. Postal Inspection Service has been quietly working on the origins of Smollett’s letter for nearly a month. Giving it far more “attention” than he knew.

Late Monday, CWBChicago received confirmation that the letter case has been before a federal grand jury and multiple subpoenas had been generated over the course of the investigation.

In a conversation on Feb. 8th, before police met with brothers Ola and Abel Osundairo, a leading source within the Smollett attack investigation called the hate crime a "false flag" and said “There is a direct line between (the letter) and (the purported attack)." In the same conversation, the source hinted at what was to come: "This is not a whodunit. It's a how-many-people-dunit."

Federal charges against whoever mailed the letter were, they said, “certain." Whoever sent the letter, we were told, "made an enormous mistake."

BBM. Exactly! Every single one of the "how-many-people" should be held accountable.

JMO

 

[gitana1]

How do we start to constructively move forward?

Honesty, empathy and education.