Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #3

[Trudie]

I think the injuries from 3/4/19 we're discovered after AJ was missing. LE would have to have proof of it or JC and/or AJ Sr would have to have confessed. I don't think they would have remembered that exact date specifically, especially if they were on drugs, but there may have been something on their phones. I'm think a text from JC to AF Sr stating AJ won't wake up, hence the cold shower. I'm just speculating here. It is possible that AJ died that day if no one saw him since then. But, who would really notice? Their "friends"?

I think if the neighbors posting that he was almost beat to death on that date there would be some record of it and AJ would not be with his parents. If a neighbor knew a severe beating took place and they didn't report it then shame on them! If I saw a child get beaten almost to death you can bet your ask I'm getting involved. So, until we know for sure via official documentation, I'd say it was hearsay unless the neighbor has video or pictures of the event, which, if they do, shame on them again. I'm going with something more concrete happened during the investigation. Something happened on that date with just JC and AJ.

JC's OB/GYN may not know that she is using. She may slip out without leaving a urine sample. I ask my daughter who works in OB/GYN and she says they usually can suspect it and it's more suspicious if they always don't leave a urine sample. The ones that admit to using, they treat with methadone. Usually, it's the hospital that gets DCFS involved after the baby is born and tests positive for any drugs.

I think her OB knows. If she has a doctor. She would need methadone. She looks like a junkie, her doctor can see what we see. Also she would have blood work done at some point.
I agree, if a neighbor was aware of a beating, they should have kept calling until someone that cared arrived. I don’t care if they had to call the Mayor.

 

[Trudie]

Looking form the official release, I've look at 6 different articles so far and none of the dates are the same. WTH

DCOS does not list this press release on the website.

I know. My eyes are crossed from reading conflicting dates. Very confusing.

 

[Trudie]

A lot of inmates give birth while incarcerated. I wonder if they have an OB office and equipment at the clinic there or do they send them to town to a hospital?

Where I live, they go to a hospital. Jails are not equipped to deliver or perform C-sections. They have no pediatric med’ equipment, either. Our jails treat busted lips, bloodied noses, broken fingers, that’s about it.
Again, it is moo inmate JC is chained to a hospital bed. The name of the game is to keep the baby alive, the jail sure doesn’t want to be responsible, imo.

 

[Midgie2]

Just from seeing pictures of JC from 2017 on it looks like she was declining fast. I don’t know a whole lot about different illegal drugs. Is it common for drug addicts to delve into more harmful or switch from one drug to another? She looks more like someone on meth in her latest pictures. Her jail booking photo where her eyes are looking into the camera are so frightening. She looks full of rage and contempt.

 

[Herat]

A lot of inmates give birth while incarcerated. I wonder if they have an OB office and equipment at the clinic there or do they send them to town to a hospital?

I don't believe the prison system is equipped to handle deliveries or drug-withdrawl in newborns. They would send them to the nearest hospital that accepts Medicaid or other prison healthcare payment.

 

[Trudie]

Here ya go,

As AJ Freund's pregnant mother faces murder charge in his death, what happens when her baby is born?

Cunningham is seven months pregnant. If she’s incarcerated at the time of the birth, DCFS would be contacted by either the hospital where she delivers or the jail or prison where she’s housed, said Jassen Strokosch, spokesman for the state’s child welfare agency.

Medical care for the baby would be the same as if the mother were not incarcerated, he said.


“The child receives the same care,” Strokosch said. “First and foremost is the safety of that child.”

Once the baby is able to leave the hospital, he said, the agency would take the child into protective custody unless the parents make alternate arrangements to place the child with a relative.

 

[Trudie]

Just from seeing pictures of JC from 2017 on it looks like she was declining fast. I don’t know a whole lot about different illegal drugs. Is it common for drug addicts to delve into more harmful or switch from one drug to another? She looks more like someone on meth in her latest pictures. Her jail booking photo where her eyes are looking into the camera are so frightening. She looks full of rage and contempt.

IMO, she’d use any drug she could get.
She’s frightening looking.
Can’t wait for the baby to be born so she can just be a regular inmate instead of a high risk pregnant woman.
Btw, all she has to do is claim she’s having this or that symptom & they’ll rush her to the hospital, if she not yet there. Is it not likely the baby will arrive early? I think JC must be under a lot of stress with her charges, incarceration & lack of drugs. Jmo

 

[Herat]

Just from seeing pictures of JC from 2017 on it looks like she was declining fast. I don’t know a whole lot about different illegal drugs. Is it common for drug addicts to delve into more harmful or switch from one drug to another? She looks more like someone on meth in her latest pictures. Her jail booking photo where her eyes are looking into the camera are so frightening. She looks full of rage and contempt.

Absolutely. Opiate tolerance happens with long term addiction and the supply of street heroin is of variable potency. So if the addict can't get the right high with one drug, they'll try another to stave off withdrawl. That's some of why Prince and Tom Petty died of fentanyl overdoses. They needed more powerful opiates and were willing to risk the very dangerous fentanyl route. Note that they both had severe chronic bone/arthritis pain that is very very difficult to treat without opiates. They might have been candidates for implantable pain pumps, but I don't know the exact criteria for that. These implantable pumps are becoming more popular with chronic nonmalignant pain patients who want to avoid the opiate dependence issues of oral meds like oxycontin.

Polypharmacy with meth, cocaine, and /or marijuana is also common. Anything to make themselves feel better. Their suppliers know this and have ready supplies of other abuse drugs to offer.

Once they start down meth, that's when they turn into the Walking Dead. That zombie face with it's empty black eyes and the severe dental and skin problems it causes just get worse and worse.

 

[MyBelle]

Hospital and Dr. are mandated reported, they are required by Illinois law to compete a written report with documentation within 48hours of any report.
I do not see where hospital reported.

I think Illinois doctors and hospitals are well aware of the Illinois statute covering mandated reporters. There is no evidence that I've seen that remotely suggests a hospital or physician acted unethically or illegally.

Reports to DCFS by mandated reporters are required by Illinois statute to be investigated immediately. The DCFS investigator on AJ's case has been reassigned.

JMO

 

[Trudie]

I don't believe the prison system is equipped to handle deliveries or drug-withdrawl in newborns. They would send them to the nearest hospital that accepts Medicaid or other prison healthcare payment.

She’s not even in prison, she’s in a county jail. (Link above about the baby). A county jail dies not have pediatric blood pressure cuffs, IV lines, NICU, or any other items this baby will need. Addicted women are high risk pregnancies.

 

[Midgie2]

I believe that the neighbors were hearing rumors and information even when they were searching for little AJ. I don’t believe for a second that anyone in that neighborhood was negligent in reporting anything to authorities. People knew there was trouble there and two little boys in the home and tried to protect them as much as humanly possible. JMO.

 

[Simply Southern]

Looking form the official release, I've look at 6 different articles so far and none of the dates are the same. WTH

DCOS does not list this press release on the website.

A.J. Freund DCFS Timeline | Child Protective Services | Child Custody

This is the official DCPS release, it does state they were unable to contact her until April.

 

[borndem]

So Mom is found 'unresponsive in the car, with a very young, bruised child....and in the end CPS says there was no signs of maltreatment? How about passing out in a car with a beat up child?

You said it. I would think that CPS is not allowed to assume that a bruise always screams abuse, but circumstances ought to at least raise a little red flag at a scene like this one. The mom is passed out??? Maybe the flag faded too soon. SMH

In every job or position I have ever had, my manager has commended me when would get more experienced in doing whatever -- better knowledge going in/a better "product" going out. Surely that is the same with CPS work, be it interviewing a teacher in the child's school, the child's doctor/dentist; a neighbor or baby-sitter; a relative, etc. Learning to recognize malnutrition, fear in a child's face, burn wounds or bruises in the wrong places, the child's interaction with parents or siblings, etc., etc., etc. Experience -- that spidey sense, etc.
And I'm sure there are many darn good CPS investigators and managers out there -- those are the ones that can mean the difference in life or death in cases like this. SMH.

 

[Simply Southern]

Where I live, they go to a hospital. Jails are not equipped to deliver or perform C-sections. They have no pediatric med’ equipment, either. Our jails treat busted lips, bloodied noses, broken fingers, that’s about it.
Again, it is moo inmate JC is chained to a hospital bed. The name of the game is to keep the baby alive, the jail sure doesn’t want to be responsible, imo.

Most jails do not have an MD or medical facilities on site. Prisons do.

 

[Herat]

Most jails do not have an MD or medical facilities on site. Prisons do.

Jails do not have anything other than some basic screening, in my understanding.

Prisons have medical wards for chronic stable conditions and some give chemotherapy or do dialysis. The prison MD's and their staff are not qualified to perform obstetrics and/or neonatal care especially in this kind of scenario.

 

[mickey2942]

She’s not even in prison, she’s in a county jail. (Link above about the baby). A county jail dies not have pediatric blood pressure cuffs, IV lines, NICU, or any other items this baby will need. Addicted women are high risk pregnancies.

If she needs to go to the hospital to give birth, they will take her in a jail van, shackled, and she will be cuffed to a hospital bed, with a guard. After the birth, the baby stays in the hospital, and the prisoner goes back to jail, after she is medically released. Because she is being held on a murder charge, a guard will be with her at all times.

I don't feel sorry for her at all.

 

[Herat]

If she needs to go to the hospital to give birth, they will take her in a jail van, shackled, and she will be cuffed to a hospital bed, with a guard. After the birth, the baby stays in the hospital, and the prisoner goes back to jail, after she is medically released. Because she is being held on a murder charge, a guard will be with her at all times.

And the county sheriff's hate paying for all this personnel time to take her to the hospital and maintain a 24/7 surveillance over her, and to pay the hospital bills.

Our little county jail used to "release" non-violent sick jail inmates from custody in front of the ER doors and make them enter as private citizens if they needed medical care, then "re-arrest" them when they were released from hospital care.

Just to avoid being responsible for the medical bills. The hospital was the loser, of course, as they got stuck without payment for their car for stuff like appendectomies, or gallbladder or bladder surgery, pneumonias.[/QUOTE]

 

[Trudie]

Most jails do not have an MD or medical facilities on site. Prisons do.

I know. Trying to explain, she can’t have her baby in a county jail. They aren’t set up for a maternity ward, lol.

 

[Simply Southern]

I think the injuries from 3/4/19 we're discovered after AJ was missing. LE would have to have proof of it or JC and/or AJ Sr would have to have confessed. I don't think they would have remembered that exact date specifically, especially if they were on drugs, but there may have been something on their phones. I'm think a text from JC to AF Sr stating AJ won't wake up, hence the cold shower. I'm just speculating here. It is possible that AJ died that day if no one saw him since then. But, who would really notice? Their "friends"?

I think if the neighbors posting that he was almost beat to death on that date there would be some record of it and AJ would not be with his parents. If a neighbor knew a severe beating took place and they didn't report it then shame on them! If I saw a child get beaten almost to death you can bet your ask I'm getting involved. So, until we know for sure via official documentation, I'd say it was hearsay unless the neighbor has video or pictures of the event, which, if they do, shame on them again. I'm going with something more concrete happened during the investigation. Something happened on that date with just JC and AJ.

JC's OB/GYN may not know that she is using. She may slip out without leaving a urine sample. I ask my daughter who works in OB/GYN and she says they usually can suspect it and it's more suspicious if they always don't leave a urine sample. The ones that admit to using, they treat with methadone. Usually, it's the hospital that gets DCFS involved after the baby is born and tests positive for any drugs.

Does any one have a link the the arrest warrant for 3/4/2019,,for JC? I've search and can't locate. I think it charge 10 and 11

 

[Trudie]

A.J. Freund DCFS Timeline | Child Protective Services | Child Custody

This is the official DCPS release, it does state they were unable to contact her until April.

Ty for finding this.
Interesting the younger boy was in good condition, no signs of abuse or neglect. Making an uneducated guess, I think little AJ did have problems related to being an addict before he was even born, making him a special needs child & she hated him. I guess a visual exam confirmed the brother to be free from abuse. But, after seeing his brother beaten & scalded, I think he’s not “free from abuse”.