IL IL - Debbie Fijan, 10, DuPage County, 11 Feb 1966 - #2

[Chicago273]

There is still hope to solve Debbie's Case!

As mentioned before ANCESTRAL DNA just pray the DCS has SOMETHING to test

01/14/2020 LISLE (WBBM NEWSRADIO) -- Exactly 44 years ago, authorities found 16-year-old Pamela Maurer dead on the side of the road in west suburban Lisle.

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[Richard]

Debbie Lou Fijan
Birth 16 Nov 1955
Death 11 Feb 1966 (aged 10)
West Chicago, DuPage County, Illinois, USA
Burial Body lost or destroyed

LINK:

Debbie Lou Fijan (1955-1966) - Find A Grave...

 

[Cubby]

DuPage County solves the first case using familial DNA in Downers Grove cold case.

Investigators use DNA to identify teen’s killer in 1970s cold case, say other victims likely

Additionally, the suspect in the 1976 case died decades ago, so I have hope that perhaps familial DNA can be used in Debbie case.



Was there any blood from the perp found on Debbie?

 

[Cubby]

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[Cubby]

Debbie Lou Fijan
Birth 16 Nov 1955
Death 11 Feb 1966 (aged 10)
West Chicago, DuPage County, Illinois, USA
Burial Body lost or destroyed

LINK:

Debbie Lou Fijan (1955-1966) - Find A Grave...

Body lost or destroyed is inaccurate. Information regarding the location of Debbie burial spot is upthread.

 

[Kayo - 55]

DuPage County solves the first case using familial DNA in Downers Grove cold case.

Investigators use DNA to identify teen’s killer in 1970s cold case, say other victims likely

Additionally, the suspect in the 1976 case died decades ago, so I have hope that perhaps familial DNA can be used in Debbie case.



Was there any blood from the perp found on Debbie?

That's great news. Thanks for posting. Good question about any blood from the perp on Debbie. It's unfathomable to think that there wasn't any blood found on Debbie, considering the number of times she was stabbed; through a "heavier coat", though I don't know the type of coat she was wearing. I don't recall if the autopsy/coroner's report was ever released. Probably not. Of course, all of us that have followed Debbie's case know that MAS burned LS's clothes late Friday night (02/11/1966) when Debbie was found, or early Saturday morning 02/12/1966. If that's not an "admission of GUILT", then I'm sticking with "the cover-up" theories.

 

[Cubby]

Iirc, I was told Debbie's jacket was unzipped when she was found and the stab wounds were not through her coat. I either read that, or it was info DPCSO shared with me.

Perhaps now that DNA testing is advancing this case will be solved. If it were from LS, the source of the DNA would have to exclude casual contact in the classroom.

 

[Kayo - 55]

Iirc, I was told Debbie's jacket was unzipped when she was found and the stab wounds were not through her coat. I either read that, or it was info DPCSO shared with me.

Perhaps now that DNA testing is advancing this case will be solved. If it were from LS, the source of the DNA would have to exclude casual contact in the classroom.

Iirc, Mrs. Fijan provided a hair brush of Debbie's for DPC Detectives. Are/were articles of Debbie's clothing typically kept by the DPCSO post autopsy/coroner's "report"? Like you mentioned above Cubby, "DNA would have to exclude …….in the classroom". I'm "clueless" when it comes to sample collections, transfer DNA, how stored, "shelf life", etc. Just recently, I was watching a Cold Case episode on "48 hrs." (or equal), where DNA from a perp was obtained from the sweat on his T-shirt that was more than 35 years old.

I implore you again "Helpful 1", if still "out there". You had mentioned in an earlier post that you were a relative of Loren S. Please contact the DuPage County Sheriff's Office - Cold Case Dept. @ 630/407-2400. Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Please do the right thing if you know anything, and "don't take any secrets to your grave".

 

[Cubby]

DNA typically has a long shelf life. Afaik, evidence is stored until cases are solved, so, the evidence from this case should be stored, somewhere.

DNA doe project just solved a case almost 100 years old.

DPCSO exhumed the perps body in the case linked above. They could always do the same with this case, provided someone's remains were not cremated.

What happens is the genealogical DNA is entered into the various family tree databases. If a suspected perp is found in that database the perps body is exhumed for a DNA sample and confirmation.

It doesn't have to only be a relative of LS to voluntarily submit DNA into one of the family tree DNA sites-and agree to allow LE to access that information. The other two persons mentioned in msm with white cars can also submit DNA to the family tree sites, and choose the option to allow LE access.

Those other two people were the school janitor and the neighbor who found Debbie. ANY family member of the janitors or the person who found Debbie can voluntarily submit dna. No need to even contact DPCSO

Here is some information about opting in for forensic dna on the genealogy sites.

Message about the Recent Changes at GEDmatch - DNA Doe Project Cases

 

[Kayo - 55]

DNA typically has a long shelf life. Afaik, evidence is stored until cases are solved, so, the evidence from this case should be stored, somewhere.

DNA doe project just solved a case almost 100 years old.

DPCSO exhumed the perps body in the case linked above. They could always do the same with this case, provided someone's remains were not cremated.

What happens is the genealogical DNA is entered into the various family tree databases. If a suspected perp is found in that database the perps body is exhumed for a DNA sample and confirmation.

It doesn't have to only be a relative of LS to voluntarily submit DNA into one of the family tree DNA sites-and agree to allow LE to access that information. The other two persons mentioned in msm with white cars can also submit DNA to the family tree sites, and choose the option to allow LE access.

Those other two people were the school janitor and the neighbor who found Debbie. ANY family member of the janitors or the person who found Debbie can voluntarily submit dna. No need to even contact DPCSO

Here is some information about opting in for forensic dna on the genealogy sites.

Message about the Recent Changes at GEDmatch - DNA Doe Project Cases

Thank you for your time Cubby in posting this. Very helpful. Sadly, as you and others know; as years pass, more and more people that might have been familiar with Debbie's unsolved case are dying. Not to mention some of the Detectives & LE that have, or will be retiring.

 

[Cubby]

Bumping for Debbie as we approach another anniversary with this case still unsolved.

 

[PinkPrincessPoop]

Technically speaking, couldn't some professional ask for Debbie's DNA now and start researching? There doesn't need to be very close familial matches, right? Sometimes they find links from cousins of cousins back 100 years ago, right?

 

[Cubby]

Debbie's DNA is known, it's her unknown murderer that is unknown.

Anyone related to the three persons with the white car interviewed by LE can submit DNA and OPT IN for forensic DNA research.

Those three persons, mentioned in msm, were/are LS, the neighbor who found Debbie's body, and the school janitor. It could rule any or all in or out. If family is really that confident those mentioned in MSM were not involved why not do the dna? Or, is it a case of what is unknown can't hurt....... perhaps a nagging doubt is preventing people from going all in and submitting the dna.

No matter how much time goes by, Debbie still deserves justice.

 

[PinkPrincessPoop]

@Cubby
Yes, that's what I meant, sorry! If there was any of her murderer's on items she had on or with her that day.

 

[Kayo - 55]

02/11/2020: "I will continue my path, but I will keep my memories (of Debbie) always".

DLF: 11/16/1955 - 02/11/1966

 

[Kayo - 55]

"Six Degrees of Separation"
"Theory that everyone & everything is six or fewer steps away, by way of introduction, from any person in the world, so that a chain of a friend of a friend can be made to connect any two people or events".

Info./pics below show some of the property owners around/adjacent to the Schofield "family farm" in the 1960's. As some of you know, the majority of this land is now part of the DPCFP - West Branch; the majority under water. If out there B. Dagley, Benjamin School Class of 1969, I/we invite you to join Debbie's site. You lived very close to Debbie. Would love your input & thoughts. More to follow on adjacent property owners shown below.

 

[Kayo - 55]

"Follow the Money" (post regarding the Trib. article below to follow)
Maybe of interest? Please read if/when you have time.

FEELINGS RUN DEEP FOR QUARRY

 

[Kayo - 55]

"Follow the Money" - A.
For many years, I thought one of the main concerns for LS and his parents Edna & John was to protect the "Klein family name", and keep it out of the courts. Lately, I'm beginning to think it was just the opposite; protect John S., his job/"benefits & connections", etc. Between 1935 and about the mid-late 1990's, there have only been 4 Highway Commissioners - VanAcker, Schofield, Ryvold Sr., and Ryvold Jr. (all deceased). Even though this was either an elected or "appointed" position (post JS's drowning in 1967), it would be interesting to know if the "elections" (hmm.....) were ever uncontested. VanAcker served as HC in the 30's & 40's. I don't know if he was elected or appointed. B. to follow.

 

[Kayo - 55]

When John Schofield drowned in Atikokan, Ontario in June/1967 while on a fishing trip, he was with 2 other individuals. Lee Stewart also drowned, but Fred Zarbock survived. Stewart's body was recovered, but "dragging operations" never recovered Schofield's body. I found it "interesting" that Mr. Stewart was a "heavy equipment" sales person. Heavy equipment?? Potential sales for Wayne Township/Highway Comm. John Schofield?? An "all expense paid fishing trip" for JS?? OR "Quarry Operations" just north of the Schofield and Ryvold properties (see #956 post above)?? Hmm...…..maybe some info. can be obtained from Wayne Township (if available) - the "job responsibilities" of the HC in the 1960's, an area of only about 6 square miles. Most likely, crushed stone/material for the roads in Wayne came from that quarry(?). JS on two different payrolls??

 

[Kayo - 55]

Land/properties north of Schofield & Ryvold (see pics above - Seger, & Greco Pit/Contractors) were sold to the DPCFP in the early 1970's. Seger sold for approx. $497K, and Greco sold for approx. $450K; excluding equipment and buildings. Some of the Greco family was involved with the ECSC (see "Feelings Run Deep" above, and site below), and The Odeum Expo Center in Villa Park, IL. EC Stone Co. has been in the quarry business for many years, and has been a vendor/contractor for the majority of the large highway construction projects in/around the Chicago area. As some of you might know, the IDOT opening of bids in Springfield, IL for highway work can be a bit "unscrupulous". Shh...…….., you didn't hear that from me - HA!

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