IL - Krystal Tobias, 9, & Laura Hobbs, 8, found dead in Zion park, 8 May 2005 - #2
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My hunny said that he thinks the money went missing and the little girl got blamed.............redeskimo said:
He feels either Mom spent it and in order to NOT get in "trouble" w/ S.O.B she blamed one of the kids OR the S.O.B stole it .
I feel the $40 story is similar to the 9 year old "weilding" the knife........its controversial and prob. never happened at all!!!!!
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http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/newssun/top/w13girls.htm
WAUKEGAN If Jerry Hobbs goes to trial on charges he fatally stabbed his 8-year-old daughter and her best friend, the most damning witness likely will be Hobbs himself.
The Zion man gave authorities a videotaped confession in which he allegedly detailed how he punched and then repeatedly stabbed his daughter, Laura, and her best friend, 9-year-old Krystal Tobias.
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Police also are studying knives taken from the home to determine if one is the murder weapon, a source said.
Prosecutors have yet to say whether they will seek the death penalty for Hobbs, who currently is represented by the Lake County public defender's office, although his family reportedly has been seeking a private attorney to represent him. Lake County Public Defender David Brodsky said his office, which has five attorneys certified to handle death penalty cases, is prepared to defend Hobbs.
WAUKEGAN If Jerry Hobbs goes to trial on charges he fatally stabbed his 8-year-old daughter and her best friend, the most damning witness likely will be Hobbs himself.
The Zion man gave authorities a videotaped confession in which he allegedly detailed how he punched and then repeatedly stabbed his daughter, Laura, and her best friend, 9-year-old Krystal Tobias.
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Police also are studying knives taken from the home to determine if one is the murder weapon, a source said.
Prosecutors have yet to say whether they will seek the death penalty for Hobbs, who currently is represented by the Lake County public defender's office, although his family reportedly has been seeking a private attorney to represent him. Lake County Public Defender David Brodsky said his office, which has five attorneys certified to handle death penalty cases, is prepared to defend Hobbs.
golfmom
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http://www.dailyherald.com/news/lakestory.asp?id=48388
Suspect wont attend services for daughter
By Tony Gordon
Daily Herald Legal Affairs Writer
Posted Friday, May 13, 2005
The man accused of killing his daughter and the girls best friend earlier this week in Zion will not ask to attend his daughters funeral, his attorney said Thursday.
Lake County Public Defender David Brodsky said he and his staff determined that security needs of the Lake County sheriffs office would be too overwhelming to make possible a furlough from the Lake County jail for Jerry Branton Hobbs III.
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Hobbs would need to petition a judge for permission to leave the jail. Deputy States Attorney Jeffrey Pavletic said he would oppose such a request if it were made.
Suspect wont attend services for daughter
By Tony Gordon
Daily Herald Legal Affairs Writer
Posted Friday, May 13, 2005
The man accused of killing his daughter and the girls best friend earlier this week in Zion will not ask to attend his daughters funeral, his attorney said Thursday.
Lake County Public Defender David Brodsky said he and his staff determined that security needs of the Lake County sheriffs office would be too overwhelming to make possible a furlough from the Lake County jail for Jerry Branton Hobbs III.
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Hobbs would need to petition a judge for permission to leave the jail. Deputy States Attorney Jeffrey Pavletic said he would oppose such a request if it were made.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/12/n...n=7970c3b0ac3d6ec5&ei=5018&partner=BRITANNICA
"But Dora Florek, whose 9-year-old daughter, Cristela, was a friend of Krystal's, said Mr. Hobbs's story, as conveyed by prosecutors, had only increased her anguish. Ms. Florek said Krystal had been the kind of child who never ran with scissors, much less carry a knife. If Laura stole from her mother, she wondered, where did she spend the money?
"Something doesn't match; the whole details are not there," she fairly spat. "It makes me sick. These two little girls should not be dead. He's a coward."
Cristela Florek's house is were the hammock was that the girls were seen at about 4:00.
Looks like Cristela's mother is with us on the subject of the knife and money.
"But Dora Florek, whose 9-year-old daughter, Cristela, was a friend of Krystal's, said Mr. Hobbs's story, as conveyed by prosecutors, had only increased her anguish. Ms. Florek said Krystal had been the kind of child who never ran with scissors, much less carry a knife. If Laura stole from her mother, she wondered, where did she spend the money?
"Something doesn't match; the whole details are not there," she fairly spat. "It makes me sick. These two little girls should not be dead. He's a coward."
Cristela Florek's house is were the hammock was that the girls were seen at about 4:00.
Looks like Cristela's mother is with us on the subject of the knife and money.
richandfamous
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http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/newssun/top/w12funerals.htm
"Hobbs is survived by her mother, Sheila Hollabaugh; one sister, Meagan; and two brothers, Jerry and Jeremy, all of Zion; maternal grandfather Art (Emily) Hollabaugh of Zion; maternal grandmother Sheryall Frasl of Grove City, Pa.; paternal grandmother JoAnn Hobbs of Wichita Falls, Texas; and maternal great-grandparents Murray and Bernadine Morley of Grove City; and many aunts and uncles. She was preceded in death by her paternal grandfather, Jerry B. Hobbs Jr."
there's a plethora of info there...who's who.
"Hobbs is survived by her mother, Sheila Hollabaugh; one sister, Meagan; and two brothers, Jerry and Jeremy, all of Zion; maternal grandfather Art (Emily) Hollabaugh of Zion; maternal grandmother Sheryall Frasl of Grove City, Pa.; paternal grandmother JoAnn Hobbs of Wichita Falls, Texas; and maternal great-grandparents Murray and Bernadine Morley of Grove City; and many aunts and uncles. She was preceded in death by her paternal grandfather, Jerry B. Hobbs Jr."
there's a plethora of info there...who's who.
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richandfamous said:
Well, I sure feel sorry for those two boys, Jerry and Jeremy. Both of them named after (more or less) one of the worst scumbuckets in the known universe.
I'm glad to see that at least the
wasn't named in the obit.TheDr. Woo said:Well, I sure feel sorry for those two boys, Jerry and Jeremy. Both of them named after (more or less) one of the worst scumbuckets in the known universe.
I'm glad to see that at least the
not being named in the obit might be very telling that the family is NOT sticking by him as we had thought.
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..i don't understand the logic there.....golfmom said:
..in fact, maybe i'm an idiot, but why does he need a defense attny at all ? he confessed..........on video no less..........is this a sentencing trial ?
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........good thinking..i agree with you there...Becba said:The
...and thank GOD the S.O.B. will not be attending the funeral........
or someone else sent the obit notice in for the mother.Becba said:The
who knows at this point.
I think it would be absolutely sickening if they did include him in it.
I personally don't know if I would've named the other children, just for the sake of their own privacy.
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ok, thank you...i realize it's not in trail stages yet, i should have worded that differently...sharon25 said:this case hasn't gone to trial at all yet.
he would need a defense atty even if he plans
to plead down to avoid the death penalty.
Someone let me know if I am wrong
...the D.A. has not yet decided if they will be seeking the DP...that we know...
..if they do NOT, will there then NOT be a trial, the confession will then merit LWOP, go directly to jail............?
...i'm in canada, i'm just wondering what happens when there IS a confession, in respect to a trial ?
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.................although it's a very small community, 22,000....i think their privacy is out the window at this point...sharon25 said:
...i feel sorry for the little boy, jerry hobbs IV...............what a legacy to have to live with....
golfmom
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...y14,1,596594.story?coll=chi-newslocalwest-hed
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On Friday night, Christina Tobias and her husband, Santiago, sat on a couch near their daughter's open casket comforting each other. Krystal wore a white dress and was surrounded by teddy bears and her Girl Scout uniform.
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On Friday night, Christina Tobias and her husband, Santiago, sat on a couch near their daughter's open casket comforting each other. Krystal wore a white dress and was surrounded by teddy bears and her Girl Scout uniform.
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golfmom
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http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/3181690
May 14, 2005, 2:28AM
Violence was the one constant in his past
Slaying suspect's rootless existence began in childhood
By TERRI LANGFORD
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle
SEE IT NOW
Charged: Jerry Hobbs
In Jerry Hobbs' world, there have been few constants.
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From age 19 on, Hobbs seemed tied to the lower-income neighborhoods of Wichita Falls, a place where he logged 29 arrests between 1990 and 2003.
When he wasn't in the Wichita County Jail, he lived on his own, with his mother Joann or at the homes of girlfriends and others.
The rootlessness that marks his life started early, as Florida school records indicate. Second grade was spent in Hillsborough County at Cork Elementary. He finished third grade in 1978 at Bartow Elementary in neighboring Polk County.
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Night deposit was missing
Then, the Hobbs family emerges in a long-forgotten police report filed in the summer of 1980 by the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office.
Four days into his mom's new job as a cashier at the Frosty Dan Food Store outside Tampa, a then-9-year-old Hobbs found himself packed with four siblings into his parents' red Chevrolet with the travel trailer hitched to the back, according to a police report. The family steered the car out of town as police were looking for the mother, a witness told officers.
Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman Debbie Carter, who located the report Friday, said police had been called because a $1,279.93 night deposit was missing at the Frosty Dan store. The last person to have had access to the money, the report indicated, was Joann Hobbs.
A fugitive warrant for two counts of grand larceny for the mother of five remains active, said Manny Pondakos, an intelligence analyst with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.
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Just before Hobbs' 20th birthday, he resurfaced in an arrest report that resulted in his first conviction.
On July 27, 1990, the sound of a car's spinning tires outside his home provoked Hobbs. The 19-year-old cook pulled a knife on the motorist, Stacey Townsend, and told him he intended to stab and kill him.
Hobbs was convicted of felony assault, but six weeks later, Townsend beat up Hobbs, making it tough for prosecutors to call for a tough penalty and paint Townsend as the victim.
"The victim didn't have clean hands," said Assistant Wichita County District Attorney Rick Mahler.
Hobbs' original felony was reduced to a misdemeanor, and he was sentenced to 60 days in jail. The following year, Hobbs hit a security guard at a local grocery store.
........................ another incident involving abusing Sheila ............
Even as Hobbs sits in a Lake County, Ill., jail cell, he's still wanted on a Palm Beach County warrant for violating probation after that incident.
Hollabaugh and Hobbs' stormy relationship continued for years, according to Sgt. Cindy Walker of the Wichita Falls Police Department, who said a handful of his 29 arrests involved assaults on Hollabaugh and another girlfriend. But the cases were dropped because Hollabaugh refused to press charges.
"You could not ask for a better neighbor," Dickerson said. "She left Monday (for Illinois), and she had no idea they would accuse Jerry."
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May 14, 2005, 2:28AM
Violence was the one constant in his past
Slaying suspect's rootless existence began in childhood
By TERRI LANGFORD
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle
SEE IT NOW
Charged: Jerry Hobbs
In Jerry Hobbs' world, there have been few constants.
.........
From age 19 on, Hobbs seemed tied to the lower-income neighborhoods of Wichita Falls, a place where he logged 29 arrests between 1990 and 2003.
When he wasn't in the Wichita County Jail, he lived on his own, with his mother Joann or at the homes of girlfriends and others.
The rootlessness that marks his life started early, as Florida school records indicate. Second grade was spent in Hillsborough County at Cork Elementary. He finished third grade in 1978 at Bartow Elementary in neighboring Polk County.
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Night deposit was missing
Then, the Hobbs family emerges in a long-forgotten police report filed in the summer of 1980 by the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office.
Four days into his mom's new job as a cashier at the Frosty Dan Food Store outside Tampa, a then-9-year-old Hobbs found himself packed with four siblings into his parents' red Chevrolet with the travel trailer hitched to the back, according to a police report. The family steered the car out of town as police were looking for the mother, a witness told officers.
Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman Debbie Carter, who located the report Friday, said police had been called because a $1,279.93 night deposit was missing at the Frosty Dan store. The last person to have had access to the money, the report indicated, was Joann Hobbs.
A fugitive warrant for two counts of grand larceny for the mother of five remains active, said Manny Pondakos, an intelligence analyst with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.
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Just before Hobbs' 20th birthday, he resurfaced in an arrest report that resulted in his first conviction.
On July 27, 1990, the sound of a car's spinning tires outside his home provoked Hobbs. The 19-year-old cook pulled a knife on the motorist, Stacey Townsend, and told him he intended to stab and kill him.
Hobbs was convicted of felony assault, but six weeks later, Townsend beat up Hobbs, making it tough for prosecutors to call for a tough penalty and paint Townsend as the victim.
"The victim didn't have clean hands," said Assistant Wichita County District Attorney Rick Mahler.
Hobbs' original felony was reduced to a misdemeanor, and he was sentenced to 60 days in jail. The following year, Hobbs hit a security guard at a local grocery store.
........................ another incident involving abusing Sheila ............
Even as Hobbs sits in a Lake County, Ill., jail cell, he's still wanted on a Palm Beach County warrant for violating probation after that incident.
Hollabaugh and Hobbs' stormy relationship continued for years, according to Sgt. Cindy Walker of the Wichita Falls Police Department, who said a handful of his 29 arrests involved assaults on Hollabaugh and another girlfriend. But the cases were dropped because Hollabaugh refused to press charges.
"You could not ask for a better neighbor," Dickerson said. "She left Monday (for Illinois), and she had no idea they would accuse Jerry."
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golfmom
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...,1,3231906.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed
WICHITA FALLS, Texas -- Among the last places Jerry Branton Hobbs III called home before leaving this small town near the Oklahoma border was a junked car that sat in the backyard of the house his ex-girlfriend shared with his three children.
From the battered car where he lived and slept, Hobbs could keep an eye on the toffee-colored brick ranch home only yards away, where the woman, Sheila Hollabaugh lived with her new boyfriend.
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Hobbs was a drifter who went from one flophouse to the next and found trouble at virtually every stop, according to interviews and court documents.
He did landscaping jobs for cash and briefly worked as a short-order cook at a local International House of Pancakes restaurant, where he was fired because of his temper, according to court documents and interviews.
Maria Barelski, a former restaurant co-worker, filed a report in 2002 with Wichita Falls police, notifying them that she had ditched her 1991 Chevy truck at a bus station before fleeing the state to get away from Hobbs.
"She left town in a hurry to get away from Jerry Hobbs," the report said, which contains no explanation of why Barelski feared Hobbs.
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While Hobbs was going from one address to the next, he failed to make any of the $300 monthly child-support payments ordered by the local court, documents show. He ended up spending a month in the county jail in 2002 after piling up more than $2,000 in failed payments, according to court records.
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When Jerry Hobbs moved into the car behind the house, arguments between Hobbs, Hollabaugh and her boyfriend became commonplace. The house stuck out in the middle-class neighborhood for its late-night traffic, frequent police stops and loud arguments.
Linda Balser said Hollabaugh complained that Hobbs tried to be strict with the children, while she believed they should run free. It wasn't unusual to see their youngest child crossing the street in his diaper, Balser said. Hollabaugh said she took in Hobbs because of the children.
"She said that was their father and the kids loved him," Linda Balser said. "She was a single mother raising her children; she was trying, but it just fell in again."
WICHITA FALLS, Texas -- Among the last places Jerry Branton Hobbs III called home before leaving this small town near the Oklahoma border was a junked car that sat in the backyard of the house his ex-girlfriend shared with his three children.
From the battered car where he lived and slept, Hobbs could keep an eye on the toffee-colored brick ranch home only yards away, where the woman, Sheila Hollabaugh lived with her new boyfriend.
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Hobbs was a drifter who went from one flophouse to the next and found trouble at virtually every stop, according to interviews and court documents.
He did landscaping jobs for cash and briefly worked as a short-order cook at a local International House of Pancakes restaurant, where he was fired because of his temper, according to court documents and interviews.
Maria Barelski, a former restaurant co-worker, filed a report in 2002 with Wichita Falls police, notifying them that she had ditched her 1991 Chevy truck at a bus station before fleeing the state to get away from Hobbs.
"She left town in a hurry to get away from Jerry Hobbs," the report said, which contains no explanation of why Barelski feared Hobbs.
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While Hobbs was going from one address to the next, he failed to make any of the $300 monthly child-support payments ordered by the local court, documents show. He ended up spending a month in the county jail in 2002 after piling up more than $2,000 in failed payments, according to court records.
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When Jerry Hobbs moved into the car behind the house, arguments between Hobbs, Hollabaugh and her boyfriend became commonplace. The house stuck out in the middle-class neighborhood for its late-night traffic, frequent police stops and loud arguments.
Linda Balser said Hollabaugh complained that Hobbs tried to be strict with the children, while she believed they should run free. It wasn't unusual to see their youngest child crossing the street in his diaper, Balser said. Hollabaugh said she took in Hobbs because of the children.
"She said that was their father and the kids loved him," Linda Balser said. "She was a single mother raising her children; she was trying, but it just fell in again."
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And thank God, in the memory of that little girl, that someone had the decency to not allow her murderer's name in her obituary.Becba said:The
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... Alberto Segura, the couple's teenage son and Krystal's half-brother, greeted visitors and thanked them for coming. He said he was surprised by the turnout.golfmom said:
"I don't know even half of these people," he said. "A lot of people are touched."
Segura has had to fill adult shoes to let his parents mourn together, he said. He's played with his two younger brothers to cheer them up, greeted visitors to their home on Gilboa Avenue and handled media interviews.
He continues to struggle to understand his sister's death, he said.
"She was a sweet girl," he said before the wake. "She probably could have changed the world. We never got to say goodbye to her..."
Everytime I hear about this boy, my heart aches for him. He seems completely devastated by his sister's death. And now he has to take on the role of his parents since they seem to not be able to function in their immense pain. I don't know how families find the strength to go on after something like this. My prayers are with them.
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Several articles I've read reflect drug usage and alcoholism among Hobbs and Sheila. I wonder if this "money taken" by the kid could have been money to be used for drugs. It was $40, which is an unusually high amount of money for a 8-year-old to take. Could the kid have been trying to "stop the parents from using?"
Several articles stated Hobbs was the better parent. One said the kids were often seen running around unsupervised for hours. One neighbor recounted a story of a baby (this likely was years ago) found across the street from the house in diapers while under the mother's care. Neighbor's stated that Hobbs kept a better eye on the children when he was around. The mother had an older daughter who she had lost custody of.
Before he went to jail on the chainsaw incident, Hobbs was not living in the house. He was living in a car at the back of the house, and the mother was living in the house with her boyfriend. Not really the actions of a jealous man, per se as the media made him out to be. When he got out of prison, they were living with her parents by her invitation.
There was an indication that Hobb's may have not known the girl's grounding had been lifted just for Mother's Day.
Several articles stated Hobbs was the better parent. One said the kids were often seen running around unsupervised for hours. One neighbor recounted a story of a baby (this likely was years ago) found across the street from the house in diapers while under the mother's care. Neighbor's stated that Hobbs kept a better eye on the children when he was around. The mother had an older daughter who she had lost custody of.
Before he went to jail on the chainsaw incident, Hobbs was not living in the house. He was living in a car at the back of the house, and the mother was living in the house with her boyfriend. Not really the actions of a jealous man, per se as the media made him out to be. When he got out of prison, they were living with her parents by her invitation.
There was an indication that Hobb's may have not known the girl's grounding had been lifted just for Mother's Day.
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