IL - Lt. Charles 'Joe' Gliniewicz, 52, found dead, Fox Lake, 1 Sep 2015 - #1

[leah]

I just saw a report on Fox News (national) about the memorial service and funeral scheduled for today.

After I saw there were over 5000 people in attendance today, a question came over me while I was watching the report.

Is there any chance they are waiting to announce who the suspects are and other details until after the funeral and service is concluded ?? Deliberately stalling ??

If so, who could the suspects be that would generate such a negative response it may have ruined the services today ? Could it be that they'll make the arrests and announce the suspects after everyone is back home and no further large gatherings are planned ?

It's just a thought. There has to be some good reason why information has been so secretive and lacking for the last 3 or 4 days. No videos, no still shots, no composite sketches, no information of any kind to aid the public in apprehending these people. What's the reason for that ?

That is pretty much what I've been thinking. Can't stop thinking the suspects are young, and this was about drugs. At that time of morning, for me it makes sense it is young people from the high school, at least one or two were, and add in drugs.

 

[night train]

Welcome and thank-you, that is what I have been wondering and you answered it, drugs, heroin in particular.

:welcome:

Thank you so much for joining and for sharing this valuable inside look that "hits hard and close to home" for you. I'm sorry for how this touches you and your community.

Thank You,

Grass Lake road is part of the route of today's memorial.It's a road I routinely travel to ride out west.Going through there this past Saturday in the still calm quiet of early morning and seeing all the heart felt tributes already along the way was quite a feeling.

 

[leah]

Sure was a wonderful turnout that came to give their respect to Lt Gliniewicz. I'm sure his family and friends were overwhelmed with such an outpouring of love and respect.

 

[stg]

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I just saw a report on Fox News (national) about the memorial service and funeral scheduled for today.

After I saw there were over 5000 people in attendance today, a question came over me while I was watching the report.

Is there any chance they are waiting to announce who the suspects are and other details until after the funeral and service is concluded ?? Deliberately stalling ??

If so, who could the suspects be that would generate such a negative response it may have ruined the services today ? Could it be that they'll make the arrests and announce the suspects after everyone is back home and no further large gatherings are planned ?

It's just a thought. There has to be some good reason why information has been so secretive and lacking for the last 3 or 4 days. No videos, no still shots, no composite sketches, no information of any kind to aid the public in apprehending these people. What's the reason for that ?

They just said on WGN news that law enforcement will not release any other news updates today, as today is a day to remember the slain officer. So, I guess that answers your question. Maybe tomorrow there will be developments announced. I am confident they will find those responsible. We live just east of Fox Lake.

 

[cady]

You're following my thoughts too. Just thinking outside the box of all possibilities, since they are not forthcoming with even the most simple answers. The autopsy alone would have revealed a whole lot. I pray it wasn't someone known to him, but stranger things have happened. We all know in any business, including government, a lot goes on behind the scene.

I agree. But thinking outside of the box, or the expected storyline seems to bring on a whole lot of accusations about the poster, and a line-up of people demanding an apology!!! You simply must accept "groupthought" LOL. I think that he was murdered, after hearing about surveillance videos and possible evidence from the crime scene. By whom, is still up for grabs. Why the autopsy report is kept under lock and key, is beyond me. After all, he must have died as a result of a gunshot wound, and the mode of death must have been determined to be homicide, or Police and FBI would not be referring to his death as a murder. JMO

 

[Cubby]

The FBI is referring to the investigation as a "shooting death".

[h=1]Investigation into Fox Lake Shooting[/h]Please use this website to submit information, pictures, and/or video related to the September 1, 2015 shooting death of police officer Lt. Charles Joseph Gliniewicz in the vicinity of 128 Honing Road in Fox Lake, Illinois.

https://tips.fbi.gov/digitalmedia/9b581e7f20e66b8

 

[leah]

I agree. But thinking outside of the box, or the expected storyline seems to bring on a whole lot of accusations about the poster, and a line-up of people demanding an apology!!! You simply must accept "groupthought" LOL. I think that he was murdered, after hearing about surveillance videos and possible evidence from the crime scene. By whom, is still up for grabs. Why the autopsy report is kept under lock and key, is beyond me. After all, he must have died as a result of a gunshot wound, and the mode of death must have been determined to be homicide, or Police and FBI would not be referring to his death as a murder. JMO

I was thinking the autopsy report might not be told until the toxicology report comes out. Sometimes they tell you the autopsy report before the toxicology comes out. Would they maybe do things differently when it is LE? Or maybe when they have their suspects they will talk about the autopsy report. They are wanting the public's help, and I don't know, unless you have video or overheard something, I'm not sure how one could help without some description. I'm finding it hard to imagine that someone hasn't said something by now, when you have three people you would think one of them would have slipped up by now. Would be interesting to know what people around town are thinking or saying, or maybe they just have no ideas what could have happened? Or maybe afraid to say anything?

 

[katydid23]

I don't see how he could have been shot by another officer. That wouldn't explain how he went radio silent so quickly after his reporting that he was chasing a suspect into the swamp. By the time another officer arrived, Lt G had already been out of contact since his initial report. I just don't see how it could have been another officer.

 

[cady]

The FBI is referring to the investigation as a "shooting death".

[h=1]Investigation into Fox Lake Shooting[/h]Please use this website to submit information, pictures, and/or video related to the September 1, 2015 shooting death of police officer Lt. Charles Joseph Gliniewicz in the vicinity of 128 Honing Road in Fox Lake, Illinois.

https://tips.fbi.gov/digitalmedia/9b581e7f20e66b8

OK. TY. The FBI twitter plea was for "tips related to the killing" of Fox Lake officer. I guess the word murder is only being used by MSM? JMO

 

[leah]

I don't see how he could have been shot by another officer. That wouldn't explain how he went radio silent so quickly after his reporting that he was chasing a suspect into the swamp. By the time another officer arrived, Lt G had already been out of contact since his initial report. I just don't see how it could have been another officer.

I don't see that either. If you are chasing someone in a swamp, the three suspects have had to be wet, and mud on them. That would look out of the ordinary at any time of the day seeing people like that. There would have to be some mess or things out of order in their homes. A mother, father, or a spouse of the suspects, someone must have noticed something not right? Or at least I would have noticed, because a lot of people aren't like me, seeing little things not in order inside my house.

 

[Cubby]

OK. TY. The FBI twitter plea was for "tips related to the killing" of Fox Lake officer. I guess the word murder is only being used by MSM? JMO

Murder has been used in MSM and iirc Filenko has used the word homicide in his pressers.

Using the words shooting death is very neutral imo. It indicates to me either they are still investigating
multiple possibilities.

 

[Cubby]

I don't see how he could have been shot by another officer. That wouldn't explain how he went radio silent so quickly after his reporting that he was chasing a suspect into the swamp. By the time another officer arrived, Lt G had already been out of contact since his initial report. I just don't see how it could have been another officer.

I don't think it was another officer who personally shot him, but if there are crooked cops or crooked village officials it's possible they found someone else to do it. Definately possible if his mornings were as routine as mentioned in msm.

 

[cady]

Murder has been used in MSM and iirc Filenko has used the word homicide in his pressers.

Using the words shooting death is very neutral imo. It indicates to me either they are still investigating
multiple possibilities.

AGREE. I understand Filenko's emotional plea. At a Wednesday news conference he said "I have a murdered colleague". What this suggests to me as I said once before, is that it is possible that the autopsy report does not state a mode of death, yet. That's all. Not suggesting anything nefarious! I and most others DO think that this is a homicide. JMO "murder" is a specific term.

 

[katydid23]

I don't think it was another officer who personally shot him, but if there are crooked cops or crooked village officials it's possible they found someone else to do it. Definately possible if his mornings were as routine as mentioned in msm.

But all we have seen reported is a cop had a scuffle with a man arrested for being drunk in public. How does that make these cops 'crooked?' I am not getting that.

 

[looking4OPH]

Funeral service live stream, going on now: http://wgntv.com/on-air/live-streaming/

 

[cady]

But all we have seen reported is a cop had a scuffle with a man arrested for being drunk in public. How does that make these cops 'crooked?' I am not getting that.

Cubby said IF there are crooked cops or city officials. Possibilities. No one is accusing anyone. JMO

 

[colts18to88]

I've lurked on this forum on and off for a long time. This case has interested me the last few days because it's bizarre how the authorities haven't released one single piece of evidence that the public could use to help identify the killers. After the South Carolina church shootings, the surveillance video at the church was released immediately so that the public could help authorities track down the gunman. Sure enough, an alert citizen recognized Dylan Roof and his vehicle based on the videos that were released. Also, I seem to remember authorities immediately releasing an image of the suspect in the recent shooting of the officer down in Houston.

I understand that it took some time for authorities to get videos in Fox Lake, but it's been what, three days since they announced the videos? How much more time could they possibly need to enhance them? Usually in these types of cases, it seems like the authorities are extremely eager to release surveillance images to the public because these types of cases are often solved by an alert citizen who sees something. Are they ever going to release the videos?

It just doesn't seem like the authorities here are very eager to have the public's help on this one, which is a bit bizarre. You have a public servant who is dead and a town that is scared to death, yet there hasn't been one piece of relevant information released. These "hide the ball" tactics just seem a bit strange to me. Right now, only two classes of people could give information about the case: 1) People who were near the area at the time of the killing and saw something suspicious, or 2) People who know the suspects. That's it. Joe Public can't do anything to help right now because there hasn't been a single piece of relevant information released to the public. All anyone can do is report something "suspicious", but you can convince yourself that almost anything is "suspicious" if you try hard enough.

The only plausible reason for not giving away any information is that they already have a good idea of who did it. These authorities sure aren't doing much to let the public help them, which is just weird. Precious time has passed and they've just never seemed like they were eager to share much, which just seems abnormal in a case like this where the public is on edge.

 

[cady]

Does anyone remember whether the Lt. G, in his call to dispatch, said the people he was pursuing were "men" or "males"? I'm asking because I think I heard "males", and I'm still curious about the new poster who told us about the high school, and the deceased's great relationships with the kids. I am not certain at all, but I keep thinking that the 3 were minors, or most of the 3. It would explain quite a bit why the public is given very little to go on, in trying to help with the investigation. JMO JMO

 

[katydid23]

I've lurked on this forum on and off for a long time. This case has interested me the last few days because it's bizarre how the authorities haven't released one single piece of evidence that the public could use to help identify the killers. After the South Carolina church shootings, the surveillance video at the church was released immediately so that the public could help authorities track down the gunman. Sure enough, an alert citizen recognized Dylan Roof and his vehicle based on the videos that were released. Also, I seem to remember authorities immediately releasing an image of the suspect in the recent shooting of the officer down in Houston.

I understand that it took some time for authorities to get videos in Fox Lake, but it's been what, three days since they announced the videos? How much more time could they possibly need to enhance them? Usually in these types of cases, it seems like the authorities are extremely eager to release surveillance images to the public because these types of cases are often solved by an alert citizen who sees something. Are they ever going to release the videos?

It just doesn't seem like the authorities here are very eager to have the public's help on this one, which is a bit bizarre. You have a public servant who is dead and a town that is scared to death, yet there hasn't been one piece of relevant information released. These "hide the ball" tactics just seem a bit strange to me. Right now, only two classes of people could give information about the case: 1) People who were near the area at the time of the killing and saw something suspicious, or 2) People who know the suspects. That's it. Joe Public can't do anything to help right now because there hasn't been a single piece of relevant information released to the public. All anyone can do is report something "suspicious", but you can convince yourself that almost anything is "suspicious" if you try hard enough.

The only plausible reason for not giving away any information is that they already have a good idea of who did it. These authorities sure aren't doing much to let the public help them, which is just weird. Precious time has passed and they've just never seemed like they were eager to share much, which just seems abnormal in a case like this where the public is on edge.

Great post and :welcome: to WS.

Apparently there is a press conference called for tomorrow afternoon? I hope so and I hope they actually release some info.

 

[looking4OPH]

Apparently there is a press conference called for tomorrow afternoon?

Where was this heard? Have not heard anything locally about a press conference.