IL - Lt. Charles 'Joe' Gliniewicz, 52, found dead, Fox Lake, 1 Sep 2015 - #1

[katydid23]

Where was this heard? Have not heard anything locally about a press conference.

I just saw a report on CNN about the funeral. And the reporter said there was a presser planned for tomorrow.

 

[Cubby]

But all we have seen reported is a cop had a scuffle with a man arrested for being drunk in public. How does that make these cops 'crooked?' I am not getting that.

Those aren't things that are necessarily public until after an investigation and arrests or pending arrests. Just as an example a few years ago three cops in Schaumburg, also a NW suburb, were involved in a huge drug ring. HUGE. I'm sure they kept it well hidden at least until they were busted.

Who knows what an internal investigation might uncover. Maybe something, maybe nothing, but since we do know this shooting occured so close to the announcement of an internal investigation those possibilities can't be discounted.

The investigation is still unfolding. We'll see what unfolds as more is released to the public. I simply cannot choose one possibility to the exclusion of others with so little information. I'm still considering at least tnree possibilities.

 

[cady]

Somewhat OT, but waaaaay back in the 60's it was virtually impossible to skip school without your parents being called. I got away with it once, because my boyfriend called in as my father, to excuse me, LOL. All I'm saying is the kids who chose that day to skip school in Fox Lake sure picked a bad day to do it, if they were just being adventurous kids. I hope that parents were called......or maybe they only skipped first hour, or were just late. JMO

 

[hockeymom4]

"Today the Fraternal Order of Police lost a fellow member and brother who died heroically serving his community," Illinois FOP President Chris Southwood said. "Our thoughts and prayers go out to the slain officer's family, friends and fellow police officers. He leaves a legacy of several decades of service to Fox Lake for which we are humbly grateful."

llinois Rep. Bob Dold, whose district includes most of Lake County, released a statement mourning Gliniewicz's loss

"Today is a heartbreaking reminder of the sacrifices made every day by those who have dedicated their lives to protect us," Dold said in the statement. "My thoughts and prayers are with Lieutenant Gliniewicz's family, friends, fellow officers and the entire Fox Lake community. As the search for the suspects continues, I strongly encourage all members of our community to stay alert and remain vigilant."


Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...iniewicz-Retired-323770211.html#ixzz3l5HusaQm
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[Cubby]

One thing I just can't logically explain is why Lt. CG went into the area he did. They are describing having to cut through tne area with machetes and it having taken 8 minutes to find him. These swampy areas have grasses, cat tails and such which grow taller than people and are more condense than cornfields.

It's hard to fathom someone going into an area that one likely couldn't see three feet in front of them.

I wish we had better pictures on the ground at the crime scene to determine if there were any natural paths through the swampy area. Coyotes or deer may have usual routes that leave a path....

 

[cady]

I don't think that they had to machete into find him. A few days later they went in there, looking for evidence of the escapees from the scene?? JMO I thought I read that it is believed the 3 went over that gate and he followed by going around the gate? I think the dirt road continues beyond the gate where his patrol car was. Is this incorrect? JMO

 

[looking4OPH]

I think the dirt road continues beyond the gate where his patrol car was. Is this incorrect?

That is correct. steelman's Google Street Views earlier showed that.

 

[Cubby]

Of course they didn't use machetes to find him. Why would they do that? If he was found outside of the swampy area on the dirt road or near the gate it would not have taken them 8 minutes to find him. He would have been in view if he had gone down outside of the woodsy swampy area. Plus his radio call stated he was pursuing suspects who went into a swampy area.

Using the machete describes how rough the swampy area is.......... I used that example to explain the same.

Now if he was found outside of the swampy area within 50 yards of his vehicle and it still took them 8 minutes to find him out in the open, we have some serious problems here.

I have no reason to believe he was found outside of the swampy area they are using machetes to cut down the area in their search for evidence.

 

[cady]

I wish I could see this area for myself. So, we are told the location of the patrol car but NOT the location of his remains? Hmmmm. Was it 8 minutes AFTER arriving at the scene and seeing the patrol car, that they found his remains, or 8 minutes to arrive and find? I HAVE read all posts, but I don't remember the timing, exactly. JMO.......OK ARRIVED at 8:01, found him at 8:09.......Hmmmm, again.

 

[Cubby]

Here’s a timeline of what police say happened Tuesday



7:52 a.m.—Gliniewicz calls in to report three suspicious people
7:55 a.m. – Gliniewicz calls for 2nd unit after three subjects ran into swamp area
8:01 a.m. – Two officers arrive at the scene
8:09 a.m. – Officers find Gliniewicz with a gunshot wound


Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...fficers-Shooting-323948661.html#ixzz3kcaVsiB3
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[colts18to88]

Great post and :welcome: to WS.

Apparently there is a press conference called for tomorrow afternoon? I hope so and I hope they actually release some info.

Thanks!

If there's a press conference tomorrow, I fully expect it to be another "We've found some more significant evidence and have promising leads, but we're going to continue to not give you a single piece of relevant information. Homeland Security is still analyzing the video. Please call with tips even though we've given the public absolutely nothing to go on."

Now that the funeral has taken place, I really hope that the media starts asking for some answers. This "hide the ball" stuff gets more perplexing with each passing day. So far, the authorities haven't done a single thing to make it easier on the public to help them out, which is often how these high profile cases get solved.

 

[cady]

Cubby...are the roads still blocked off? If not , maybe you could take a little trip to the area and show us some pics?......Hoping that after today, they will be a little more forthcoming with details, tho. W e shall see. JMO

 

[Cubby]

Cubby...are the roads still blocked off? If not , maybe you could take a little trip to the area and show us some pics?......Hoping that after today, they will be a little more forthcoming with details, tho. W e shall see. JMO

I'm about an hour south of Fox Lake, otherwise I would go. I don't think I have been in that area since we used to drive to WI when the drinking age was 18/19 and that was a long, long time ago.

The roads aren't blocked off, but I am going to guess the crime scene area where they are still searching for evidence is still blocked off with crime scene tape.


Another thing, I can't find a link because I saw this on TV earlier this week. Some expert was being interviewed and said it was unlikely this shooting was drug related. As druggies are usually up late partying and are sleeping at the time of the shooting. It was the experts opinion this was more likely robbery related as the shooting occurred during a time known to be when robberies typically occur.

 

[cady]

Just THOUGHT of something....the first two to arrive at the scene may not have been told that the suspects headed for the swamp, so they may have seen the patrol car right away and called him and looked first in other directions, BECAUSE the gate looked prohibitive ? Or, not. Who knows, if nobody bothers to tell us. JMO

 

[leah]

What would be around there to rob, unless they were just hanging around that area, but were going to go and rob a home or homes in the area?

 

[cady]

What would be around there to rob, unless they were just hanging around that area, but were going to go and rob a home or homes in the area?

Metals, copper is especially valuable....and it was an industrial area. JMO They would need a truck or car , though.

 

[fraudqueen]

I agree. But thinking outside of the box, or the expected storyline seems to bring on a whole lot of accusations about the poster, and a line-up of people demanding an apology!!! You simply must accept "groupthought" LOL. I think that he was murdered, after hearing about surveillance videos and possible evidence from the crime scene. By whom, is still up for grabs. Why the autopsy report is kept under lock and key, is beyond me. After all, he must have died as a result of a gunshot wound, and the mode of death must have been determined to be homicide, or Police and FBI would not be referring to his death as a murder. JMO

We all have our opinions...don't have to go along with the "group".

 

[katydid23]

One thing I just can't logically explain is why Lt. CG went into the area he did. They are describing having to cut through tne area with machetes and it having taken 8 minutes to find him. These swampy areas have grasses, cat tails and such which grow taller than people and are more condense than cornfields.

It's hard to fathom someone going into an area that one likely couldn't see three feet in front of them.

I wish we had better pictures on the ground at the crime scene to determine if there were any natural paths through the swampy area. Coyotes or deer may have usual routes that leave a path....

Maybe the officer didn't willingly go into the swampy area. He might have been following them out in the open area, to keep eyes on them until back up arrived. He could have planned to stand his ground to prevent them from doubling back and waited for backup. But one may have overpowered him, or had their own weapon and then forced him into the swampy remote area. ?

 

[katydid23]

What would be around there to rob, unless they were just hanging around that area, but were going to go and rob a home or homes in the area?

If they were high school kids they might have been 'hanging out' and getting high, while waiting for school to start. My kid's high school had two areas like that about half a mile from school. Cops routinely patrolled them because kids met there in the mornings to 'Wake n Bake.' One area was a small creek, and it had a dirt road and kids would have a look out with a whistle if they saw a cop coming down the road.

 

[katydid23]

I'm about an hour south of Fox Lake, otherwise I would go. I don't think I have been in that area since we used to drive to WI when the drinking age was 18/19 and that was a long, long time ago.

The roads aren't blocked off, but I am going to guess the crime scene area where they are still searching for evidence is still blocked off with crime scene tape.


Another thing, I can't find a link because I saw this on TV earlier this week. Some expert was being interviewed and said it was unlikely this shooting was drug related. As druggies are usually up late partying and are sleeping at the time of the shooting. It was the experts opinion this was more likely robbery related as the shooting occurred during a time known to be when robberies typically occur.

I agree that MOST druggies are sleeping in. But not high school kids. There are a lot of students that get high on heroin or oxy that still manage to make it to school on time. Or close to on time.