GUILTY IN - Christian Choate, 13, starved, beaten to death, Gary, April 2009

[Txmom]

Now that the "parents" have been caught, their actions are basically documented, they cry "NOT GUILTY". We have become a society that does not demand that people accept responsibility for their actions, and this is a result. A beautiful, sensitive, intelligent child, dead, if there was too many kids at the house...and there was, or the parents could not handle this sensitive child, then they should have stepped up to the plate and had the child removed from their care.

ALL adults over the age of 18, that knew what this child was going thru should be charged with child abuse. They knew it and did nothing. They are just as guilty.

 

[LCoastMom]

Christina Choate: Dad beat, blamed her for brother's death

CROWN POINT | The sister of slain Christian Choate admitted Monday to regularly punishing her brother by order of their father and stepmother.

If 13-year-old Christian wouldn't do as he was told, she would "smack him," Christina Choate said Monday during a bail hearing for the couple.

"If my brother got in trouble, I would, too," testified the petite, dark-haired 17-year-old.
Christina said she was beaten, too, after the boy died from a final beating by their father.

"He beat me and told me it was my fault my brother was dead," she told the court.

Riley Choate, 39, and his estranged wife, Kimberly Kubina, 46 are seeking to be released on bond while awaiting trial, currently set for next May.

Contrary to prior reports, Christina denied hitting the boy with a metal pole but admitted striking him, chaining him to a bed and keeping him locked up in a dog cage. She said her relationship with her younger brother was "bad." "We were not close," she said, admitting she told the boy she didn't like him after hearing allegations of his molesting another family member.

The bail hearing continues Nov. 17 before Lake Criminal Magistrate Kathleen Sullivan.

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/gary/article_b04610c2-eb1c-5c6b-a9f5-85fa1445a644.html

 

[LCoastMom]

Bail off the table in Choate case

New charges against Riley Choate in Kentucky appear to have killed the chance of bail for Choate and his estranged wife, Kimberly Kubina.

Just two days after the bail hearing for the accused couple, Lake County court records indicated bail has become moot.

A hold has been placed against the couple by Kentucky, Lake County court records state.
"Therefore the (petition for bail) is dismissed until such time as the hold from Kentucky has been resolved," court records state.

Another bail hearing set for Nov. 17 has been canceled.

Kentucky officials declined to immediately provide information on the new charges against Riley Choate.

Sources told The Times, however, that the charges pertain to a relationship with a minor.

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/gary/article_98a6c2ab-b791-5bba-8707-494a25587583.html

Looks like the Choates have some more explaining to do...

 

[revampz]

oh my goodness...how sad is this story.........that poor little boy. It is bad when steps abuse the kids, but when a natural parent does this to their child it really does my head in trying to understand why.

 

[pinkfly]

This poor unfortunate young man will haunt us forever.

 

[bessie]

In the affidavits posted earlier in the thread, the other children were told Christian was being punished for hurting another child. I wonder if the new charges against Riley are related.

 

[Wondergirl]

This case just breaks my heart.

 

[tlcya]

Typically, Christian was given two packs of ramen noodles for breakfast and lunch, and leftovers or whatever the family was having for dinner. Around the time of his death, Christian had begun hallucinating and was in bad shape, so Kubina told her to feed him CoCo Wheats, but he became unable to chew or swallow them.

The night before the boy died in the spring of 2009, he couldn’t eat his cereal or walk to the kitchen or bathroom, so Kubina directed the girl to put a diaper on her brother that was there for a 4-year-old living in the home, Christina Choate said. The diaper fit him.

http://posttrib.suntimes.com/news/l...r-describes-christian-choates-final-days.html

 

[tlcya]

There is no punishment tough enough for Kimberly and Riley to make up for what was done to the children in their care. Sick, psycho, sadistic pieces of garbage. My only hope is that there is indeed a hell so that they can ROT in it.

 

[MorenoI]

Typically, Christian was given two packs of ramen noodles for breakfast and lunch, and leftovers or whatever the family was having for dinner. Around the time of his death, Christian had begun hallucinating and was in bad shape, so Kubina told her to feed him CoCo Wheats, but he became unable to chew or swallow them.

The night before the boy died in the spring of 2009, he couldn’t eat his cereal or walk to the kitchen or bathroom, so Kubina directed the girl to put a diaper on her brother that was there for a 4-year-old living in the home, Christina Choate said. The diaper fit him.

http://posttrib.suntimes.com/news/l...r-describes-christian-choates-final-days.html

***Snipped from above article
Kubina also had her videotape the abuse, but the videos were taped over. At one time, the boy was chained to a bed frame and hit.

“Did you have any enjoyment in that,” Riley Choate’s defense attorney, Randy Godshalk, asked.

“Yes,” she replied.

Can someone please tell me when and how this is okay? I am fuming that this "child" endured soooooooooo much pain and abuse!

 

[tlcya]

I totally get your frustration MorenoI, but I don't think anyone except sick freaks think anything that was done to Christopher is "okay".

I am not out for Christina's blood because she was raised in an atmosphere where everyone around her behaved as if this was normal acceptable behavior and she herself was a child in this home. God alone only knows what she has seen or been threatened with in order to gain her cooperation/participation in the beatings. Plus, she was a child herself at the time.

As to her answering "yes" to the question about whether she derived any enjoyment out of her treatment of her brother, I found her answer very brave. Oh how much easier it would have been to deny having taken any secret pleasure in the punishments she was told to mete out?

How ready would everyone have been to believe that this poor child was cringing the whole time she did as she was ordered to do? How much easier would this whole situation be to swallow had she simply told the easy lie we all so wanted to hear?

And yet she didn't. She owned her own darkness. MOO is that this young lady will forever be haunted by her own part in her twin's death. Nothing anyone could to do to her will be worse than the hell she will undoubtably put her own self through for the part she played in this sick drama.

 

[mikeysmommom]

The sister knew it was not normal behavior in that house or she would have spoke up,told someone of the horrors going on.Can you imagine when she is older and has children of her own.She needs to be punished as well IMO.How could she take part in the abuse,if she would have told someone he could have been saved.Scary to think about her ever becoming a parent,she is a very twisted person IMO.

 

[Wondergirl]

Is the death penalty on the table for these pieces of garbage?

Every time I read more on this case, it makes me weep.

They do not deserve to live.

That poor, precious boy, endured hell on earth. Why? I have no answers, it is so sick.

Rest in peace, sweet child.

 

[tlcya]

New charges filed in Kentucky against Riley Choate, the man charged along with his estranged wife Kimberly Kubina in the tragic, disturbing death of his son Christian, seem to have nixed any chance the two had at receiving bail.

According to the Northwest Indiana Times, Choate, 39, was charged Wednesday in a separate crime, likely involving a relationship with a minor, in Kentucky,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/20/christian-choate-death-pa_n_1022346.html

I am really curious as to what those charges in Kentucky that likely involve a relationship with a minor child are all about. Seems Mr. Choate has a lot of explaining to do about his interactions with minors in general. I am wondering if he is also a sexual predator with children based on the very cryptic BBM above.

 

[tlcya]

A former Black Oak man charged with murder in his son’s death faces a high-level felony sex charge involving a girl in Kentucky

Prosecutors seeking to avoid from having to disclose the victim’s address indicated in a court filing that Choate is charged with the equivalent in Indiana of criminal deviate conduct, a Class A felony punishable by a sentence range of 20 to 50 years. The filing argued that revealing the vicitm’s address would endanger her and potentially subject her to intimidation.

http://posttrib.suntimes.com/news/lake/8345955-418/riley-choate-faces-sex-charge-in-kentucky.html

Asked and answered I guess. These people are serious menaces and should never ever ever be allowed out of jail. Actually I would be fine with them being executed.

 

[tlcya]

IC 35-42-4-2
Criminal deviate conduct
Sec. 2. (a) A person who knowingly or intentionally causes another person to perform or submit to deviate sexual conduct when:
(1) the other person is compelled by force or imminent threat of force;
(2) the other person is unaware that the conduct is occurring; or
(3) the other person is so mentally disabled or deficient that consent to the conduct cannot be given;
commits criminal deviate conduct, a Class B felony.
(b) An offense described in subsection (a) is a Class A felony if:
(1) it is committed by using or threatening the use of deadly force;
(2) it is committed while armed with a deadly weapon;
(3) it results in serious bodily injury to any person other than a defendant; or
(4) the commission of the offense is facilitated by furnishing the victim, without the victim's knowledge, with a drug (as defined in IC 16-42-19-2(1)) or a controlled substance (as defined in IC 35-48-1-9) or knowing that the victim was furnished with the drug or controlled substance without the victim's knowledge.
As added by Acts 1976, P.L.148, SEC.2. Amended by Acts 1977, P.L.340, SEC.37; P.L.320-1983, SEC.24; P.L.183-1984, SEC.3; P.L.31-1998, SEC.4.

http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/2010/title35/ar42/ch4.html

 

[bessie]

November 29, 2011

Trial Date Reaffirmed and Documents Released

On Tuesday, the court reaffirmed the couple's next court hearing for April 17 and trial date for May 14

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/...cle_d7f9c2ab-dd6e-56d1-a0d3-b0c0b8d240a4.html

 

[bessie]

The defense attorneys representing Riley Choate and Kimberly Kubina tell the court they need more money and more time. Judge tells them to "work diligently" to meet the May 14 trial date.

Linda Kollintzas, a lawyer already representing Kimberly Kubina at public expense, asked for the May 14 trial to be delayed, saying she is still processing hundreds of pages of new evidence released by the prosecutor's office and still must question a number of the 25 witnesses prosecutors could call for their case.

Read more: http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/...522-59b6-8129-3e62f447a530.html#ixzz1s5qrM3MD

http://posttrib.suntimes.com/11823832-537/choate-trial-may-be-delayed.html
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[marycarney]

http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/news/indiana/slain-gary-boys-mom-admits-to-neglect

She took a plea deal and will testify against the father.

(This poor child was related by marriage to my younger sister)

 

[Cubby]

The stepmother <snip> has pleaded guilty to neglect and agreed to testify against the boy's father when he's tried for murder and other charges.

The Times of Munster reports 46-year-old Kimberly Kubina also agreed to serve 25 to 35 years in prison. She's due to be sentenced Aug. 28.

http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/news/indiana/slain-gary-boys-mom-admits-to-neglect

Very short article, tried to snip as much as I could to stay w/in tos.

Anyone familiar with IN law? Is this 25-35 years a mandatory full sentence or does she get time off for good behavior? If there is time off for reduced sentencing what is it?

I'm ok with the 25-35 years provided she has to serve the full time.