IN - Couple charged with abandonment of adopted child after legally changing her age, Sept 2019

[kaen]

According to the information I have seen, she had been committed, evaluated, determined to be an adult & a psychopath. Once that determination was made she was moved to an adult program. She was then kicked out. That’s when the Barnett’s rented her an apartment.

Can you please provide links?

 

[claudianunes]

I find it quite hard to believe that LE would charge these two without confirming NG's age through legitimate medical evaluations. I'm pretty sure they did abandon a disabled child.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

There are 3 different evaluations done, 2 with a younger age and one with an older age, even by that dcotor's account the parents went with the older age range:
"A court affidavit contains hospital records that estimated Natalia's age to be approximately 8 in 2010 and closer to 11 in 2012, but Kristine provided a separate doctor evaluation that claimed Natalia was an adult. The written statement by Dr. Andrew P. McLaren at IU Health in Indiana stated that Natalia's provided date of birth was "clearly inaccurate," citing dental development, menstrual development, and several other factors. He estimated that she was likely between 18 and 22 at the time of evaluation in 2012." Indiana couple legally changed daughter's age before abandoning her, police say

"According to the affidavit, doctors at Peyton Manning Children’s Hospital examined Barnett’s daughter, who has also been diagnosed with a type of dwarfism called spondyloepiphyseal, and concluded she was somewhere around 8 years old. It’s not clear when the exam took place." Father accused of altering adopted daughter’s age from 11 to 22 and then abandoning her to move to Canada turns himself in

I have not seen documents other than the mother's assertion that the child was dx'd with these disorders. And, even if she was dx'd as a psychopath and sociopath, the parents had a duty to make sure that she was working within the system for support and services. "Kristine Barnett further said that Natalia had been diagnosed as both a psychopath and a sociopath. Natalia has not been reached for comment, and it was not immediately clear if she was involved in legal action against her adoptive parents." Indiana couple legally changed daughter's age before abandoning her, police say

Has the authenticity of Dr. Andrew P McLaren diagnosis letter been notorized,or verified????? Signed????

 

[kaen]

According to the information I have seen, she had been committed, evaluated, determined to be an adult & a psychopath. Once that determination was made she was moved to an adult program. She was then kicked out. That’s when the Barnett’s rented her an apartment.

"Her former husband, 43-year-old Michael Barnett, told a different story when interviewed by police earlier this month. As far as he was concerned, police said, the girl was a minor when they switched her age and left her behind in Lafayette, Ind. He also told detectives that his wife had counseled the girl to tell people that she was 22 if questioned, and to explain that she just looked young."

Further in the same article:
"Officials haven’t yet explained how they were able to do so, but Kristine Barnett gave WISH-TV a copy of a letter that purportedly came from another doctor who said that the date on the girl’s birth certificate was “clearly inaccurate,” since she had both the teeth and the secondary sex characteristics of a grown adult.

The station wasn’t able to confirm the authenticity of the letter, which alleges the girl “has made a career of perpetuating her age facade,” since hospital officials declined to comment. The same document also claims the girl had been committed to a psychiatric hospital and diagnosed with sociopathic personality disorder in 2012 and, around that time, started to admit that she was over 18. Determining her true age was difficult, the letter states, because records provided by Ukrainian officials were “grossly incomplete” and her condition, spondyloepiphyseal dysplasia congenita, meant that the typical assessments weren’t helpful."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...s-girl-was-actually-scamming-adult-sociopath/

 

[Simply Southern]

Has the authenticity of Dr. Andrew P McLaren diagnosis letter been notorized,or verified????? Signed????

He appears to he family practice with emphasis in pediatrics.

Would it not prudent to have a pediatric specialities to make the diagnosis?

Imo

 

[gitana1]

According to the information I have seen, she had been committed, evaluated, determined to be an adult & a psychopath. Once that determination was made she was moved to an adult program. She was then kicked out. That’s when the Barnett’s rented her an apartment.

Hi friend. The problem is that there is no diagnosis of sociopath or psychopath. That is not a DSM diagnosis. The "evidence" the Barrett's have provided is not a medical or psych report. It's a letter from a doctor who is clearly friends with them and calls them "victims". And since he claims se was diagnosed using a term that doesn't exist, his account is suspect.

Her photos show a clear age progression that appears to show a young child maturing into an older teen. Not an older teen marrying into an almost 30 year old woman.

Two actual, official bone scans by different doctors showed her to be @8 in 2010 and @11 in 2012.

The Barrett's doubled that in 2013 when they left her.

Finally, investigators researched this case for 5 years before filing charges against the parents. They had all the information from the guardianship, the Barrett's statements and evidence, etc., before charging them. Why would they do that if the Barrett's were telling the truth? I mean it's not like they charges this couple a month or so after they left the girl, via a quick, decision.

They charged them five years later and have been investigating that whole time.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

He appears to he family practice with emphasis in pediatrics.

Would it not prudent to have a pediatric specialities to make the diagnosis?

Imo

Well it hasn't been verified, there's been a five year investigation. I doubt there would be charges if it was legit. The adoptive dad himself told investigators they knew she was a minor,and that Kristine coached the girl to tell people she was older. Before they had her age changed,and just dumped her. So it would prudent to question the authenticity of the dr, Docs.
MOO

 

[gitana1]

There are 3 different evaluations done, 2 with a younger age and one with an older age, even by that dcotor's account the parents went with the older age range:
"A court affidavit contains hospital records that estimated Natalia's age to be approximately 8 in 2010 and closer to 11 in 2012, but Kristine provided a separate doctor evaluation that claimed Natalia was an adult. The written statement by Dr. Andrew P. McLaren at IU Health in Indiana stated that Natalia's provided date of birth was "clearly inaccurate," citing dental development, menstrual development, and several other factors. He estimated that she was likely between 18 and 22 at the time of evaluation in 2012." Indiana couple legally changed daughter's age before abandoning her, police say

"According to the affidavit, doctors at Peyton Manning Children’s Hospital examined Barnett’s daughter, who has also been diagnosed with a type of dwarfism called spondyloepiphyseal, and concluded she was somewhere around 8 years old. It’s not clear when the exam took place." Father accused of altering adopted daughter’s age from 11 to 22 and then abandoning her to move to Canada turns himself in

I have not seen documents other than the mother's assertion that the child was dx'd with these disorders. And, even if she was dx'd as a psychopath and sociopath, the parents had a duty to make sure that she was working within the system for support and services. "Kristine Barnett further said that Natalia had been diagnosed as both a psychopath and a sociopath. Natalia has not been reached for comment, and it was not immediately clear if she was involved in legal action against her adoptive parents." Indiana couple legally changed daughter's age before abandoning her, police say

Also, there's no such diagnosis.

It would be conduct disorder and/or oppositional defiance disorder for a kid and anti-social personality disorder for an adult.

The fact that the Barrett's doctor who wrote the letter to support their contention, did not refer to an actual, clinical diagnosis, makes him even more suspect to me.

 

[Legally Bland]

Also, there's no such diagnosis.

It would be conduct disorder and/or oppositional defiance disorder for a kid and anti-social personality disorder for an adult.

The fact that the Barrett's doctor who wrote the letter to support their contention, did not refer to an actual, clinical diagnosis, makes him even more suspect to me.

Quick question.

If she's 22 (supposedly), and the doctor is writing an open letter about her medical records, isn't he violating HIPAA?

If it's authorised by a parent then the doctor is treating her as a minor.

I just find that letter to be very sketchy.

 

[gitana1]

He appears to he family practice with emphasis in pediatrics.

Would it not prudent to have a pediatric specialities to make the diagnosis?

Imo

Has the authenticity of Dr. Andrew P McLaren diagnosis letter been notorized,or verified????? Signed????

I just want to clarify (having seen so many medical reports) that it's a letter. Its not a medical report. It's not an official diagnosis. He's summarizing what the Barrett's have told him and what he thinks he knows but it's not an official diagnosis and he never made one.

 

[gitana1]

Quick question.

If she's 22 (supposedly), and the doctor is writing an open letter about her medical records, isn't he violating HIPAA?

If it's authorised by a parent then the doctor is treating her as a minor.

I just find that letter to be very sketchy.

Good point. Ironically if they're her "parents" and she's a minor then they can authorize release of such info. Otherwise a court would have to authorize it and subpoena it. But a letter is more of a personal opinion. It's not a medical report or medical records. So it's strange. And seems very unofficial.

I'm guessing the guardianship court authorized release of her medical information. Otherwise I hope she sues the hell out of that doctor.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

Also, there's no such diagnosis.

It would be conduct disorder and/or oppositional defiance disorder for a kid and anti-social personality disorder for an adult.

The fact that the Barrett's doctor who wrote the letter to support their contention, did not refer to an actual, clinical diagnosis, makes him even more suspect to me.

ITA

 

[Suglo]

Websleuths has this thread: AR - Rep. Harris rehomed his adopted daughter to man who sexually abused her

We also have this thread about an adopted girl from China that was rehomed and allegedly murdered by the people where she was rehomed. Trial is next year.
WI - Selah Kaden, 13, Suspicious Death, Mineral Point, 31 May 2018

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

I just want to clarify (having seen so many medical reports) that it's a letter. Its not a medical report. It's not an official diagnosis. He's summarizing what the Barrett's have told him and what he thinks he knows but it's not an official diagnosis and he never made one.

Ahhhhhhhhhh. So how the Hell did they get a judge to approve the age change on such a flimsy premise???????

 

[Simply Southern]

Adoptive parents of Ukranian girl with dwarfism appear in court | Daily Mail Online

In what could be a critical factor in the case, prosecutor Jackie Starbuck told the court that the Indiana criminal neglect code can apply to people of any age who are mentally or physically disabled.

'I just want to put that on the record,' she said. 'There are two different definitions of a dependent, either a disabled person or a child.'

Starbuck also questioned Kristine Barnett as to why she did not arrive in court with an attorney.

'They have another court date. I just retained him yesterday,' the platinum-blonde defendant replied.

BBM
I am not sure how the parents of a disable person over the age of 18 is responsible. I've many clients that are mentally/ physically disable...as deemed by SSA and receive benefits in their own name....SSAD. The parents have no legal responsibility or control of these persons. She was not declared incompetent and thus is responsible for herself.

She obtained SSAD, more than likely under her father/mother income, whichever is higher.
SSAD benefits are awarded to US citizens, who are over the age of 18 and meet the SSA disability guidelines. If under 18, must be low income to obtain SSI.

JMHO, if the adoption was overturned/declared illegal she would not be US citizen. She could NOT obtain SSAD, Medicaid, or Food Stamps. What a mess this would be.

Yes, the parents could have fought to overturn the adoption, however, this would have left her with no citizenship and no financial means.

My question is why would this other family seek guardianship and try to prove she is under 18? This would nullify all her benefits, SSAD, Medicaid, foods stamps, etc. She would be required to repay SSDA and Medicaid all funds disbursed. Where they planning to seek child support from the mother and father? Sue the parents for fraud?

Something just doesn't add up....

Imho....

 

[meanmaryjean]

Again- there is no way that 'doctor's letter' is legit. Here's why:

It is clearly a lab result/ summary of some type written about the FATHER as it contains HIS name and date of birth. Everything after that bit of info has been altered/ photoshopped/ whatever. It is not written as a medical report of any type would be. It uses inflammatory language about the supposed 'patient' (the girl) which NO PHYSICIAN IS GOING TO USE.

In short- the doctor's letter is clearly to my eye a fake. This physician has been dragged down this very seedy rabbit hole through no fault of his own. His only 'fault' is in treating a member of this dysfunctional family.

The reason IU Health and the physician have not made a comment? (Trust me on this one) They are doing their own internal investigation and it is going to get much, much uglier for these 'parents'.

 

[gitana1]

Ahhhhhhhhhh. So how the Hell did they get a judge to approve the age change on such a flimsy premise???????

I'm thinking there had to have been more they provided. Like actual reports by the personnel at the psych hospital including maybe a medical doctor there.

But that particular doctor isn't very credible to me.

And apparently no matter what else they submitted, the state found evidence to refute it, strong enough to charge them with child neglect.

So it may have been persuasive enough for the probate court when considering the guardianship but not for the state when considering whether to charge.

 

[Laughing]

@Badwolf47 , do you know anyone in Tippecanoe County?

(Sometimes know as LayFlat, Indiana.)

 

[gitana1]

BBM
I am not sure how the parents of a disable person over the age of 18 is responsible. I've many clients that are mentally/ physically disable...as deemed by SSA and receive benefits in their own name....SSAD. The parents have no legal responsibility or control of these persons. She was not declared incompetent and thus is responsible for herself.

She obtained SSAD, more than likely under her father/mother income, whichever is higher.
SSAD benefits are awarded to US citizens, who are over the age of 18 and meet the SSA disability guidelines. If under 18, must be low income to obtain SSI.

JMHO, if the adoption was overturned/declared illegal she would not be US citizen. She could NOT obtain SSAD, Medicaid, or Food Stamps. What a mess this would be.

Yes, the parents could have fought to overturn the adoption, however, this would have left her with no citizenship and no financial means.

My question is why would this other family seek guardianship and try to prove she is under 18? This would nullify all her benefits, SSAD, Medicaid, foods stamps, etc. She would be required to repay SSDA and Medicaid all funds disbursed. Where they planning to seek child support from the mother and father? Sue the parents for fraud?

Something just doesn't add up....

Imho....

Because they're Christians who find it in their hearts to take in kids no one else wants. Husband is a pastor.

Despite not being able to obtain the guardianship, they still have her as part of their family. And no lawsuit has been filed by them.

 

[Laughing]

RE: her citizenship. AFAIK, she would have received/earned/been awarded citizenship in the course of the initial adoption, the adoption that brought her to the US from Ukraine, right?

Disruption of this (shady) one shouldn't matter???