Interim discussion regarding questions from the jury and Arias on the stand #79

[thefragile7393]

She should definitely be sued for wrongful death. She's making money right now with her "art" that nobody would buy if not for her infamy in killing Travis. It needs to be stopped, in my opinion.

wrongful death does not outweigh capital murder....so yeah there is no reason to sue her for this unless for some odd reason she is aquitted.

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[G&AMom]

Still reeling from yesterday's end of session. Wow!!!

Read your wonderful posts this morning -- I saved them because I knew I would be going through withdrawal today! :floorlaugh:

I had planned to ask you why you thought Nurmi ended so abruptly, but I saw that you were surprised as well. Do you think the judge told him to shut it down? She has seemed increasingly fed up with him. Or do you think it was Wilmott?

And do you think Poquito was responsible for the question? :woohoo:

 

[kaRN]

O/T

Are smilies supposed to be animated? Mine are not.

Some are, others not. Do you have an updated flash player? Is your browser a newer version? Do you have adequate memory? I'm no IT person but those are the things that I have to watch out for with my elderly Mac.

 

[Tipstaff]

Yup.
I don't feel any sympathy for Jodi. None, zero.
Our justice system is to punish the guilty. If she's getting more hate, then imo, that's dserved punishment as well.
I just can't feel sorry for her. AT ALL.
What she did was inhumane, even evil.
I've never such a horrendous crime.
And I didn't even think she could be so cool about what she did to him.
When "Travis passed away". No, you monster, you brutally took his life.
As far as I'm concerned, she needs to be found guilty and put on death row.
And I'm against the death penatly, smdh.

Agree with what you say and then.....

Jumping off your post....I don't see any reason that the TV talking heads shouldn't discuss this case - after all it was JA herself who granted detailed interviews to 48 hours etc. She had her hair done, her make-up on her vocabulary words all polished and ready to spill out of her lying lips.

But what I really find interesting is that most of the Talking Heads are Defense Attorneys, who make the big bucks and have the time and get paid for their opinions, while the public servant prosecutors are for the most part making not great money and putting the criminals behind bars.

 

[Mormon Attorney]

I am not an expert nor a Mormon, but was raised in a strong Mormon household (I'm what some refer to as an "ex-mo," meaning "ex-mormon").

My brother committed suicide when I was little and he was a teenager, so this was a discussion that came up a lot in my family. It is my understanding that murder is unforgivable/"unrepentable" because it is impossible to make the situation "whole" again, because the person is dead. Like, there's no way to make restitution.

I had a difficult time as a five-year-old understanding why any God would punish my brother for what I already at that age recognized as some sort of mental health issue, so my mom told me that God (Heavenly Father is how Mormons refer to God) knows all and would know what was in my brother's heart, etc. etc. I don't know if that's true, but I suspect it was just to make me feel better.
.

I snipped your post to save space but wanted to say that I am sorry that, as a 5 year old, you had to go through losing your brother to suicide. Just so sorry.

The honest answer, as I understand it, is what you mom told you. We believe strongly in the sanctity of life. We do not believe it is ok to take your own life or that of another.

Having said that, I, too, have a dear friend who lost her son to suicide. After his death, they found out his medication was wrong and likely caused him to take actions he would not have taken had he not been on that medication.

Also, as an attorney who has dealt with children experiencing severe mental illness, I can honestly say that some of these children have significant burdens that are not their choice to carry.

Since every situation is different, the official position is that we are not able to judge. There is no regulation or directive that says those who commit suicide cannot have eternal life and all the blessings. Our Heavenly Father dearly loves each of his children. Those who carry enormous burdens are loved and adored by him. Thus, while the doctrine is that we are very much discouraged from suicide, we have love and compassion for those families impacted by suicide knowing that God will judge each situation with fairness and love.

Again, I am so sorry about your brother. I know that my friend's family carries great pain from her son's loss. He was very special, as I am sure your brother was, as well.

 

[Nali87]

Agree with what you say and then.....

Jumping off your post....I don't see any reason that the TV talking heads shouldn't discuss this case - after all it was JA herself who granted detailed interviews to 48 hours etc. She had her hair done, her make-up on her vocabulary words all polished and ready to spill out of her lying lips.

But what I really find interesting is that most of the Talking Heads are Defense Attorneys, who make the big bucks and have the time and get paid for their opinions, while the public servant prosecutors are for the most part making not great money and putting the criminals behind bars.

It's an unfair world. :floorlaugh:
I get pissed every time I see reality stars like Kim Kardashian making millions while I'm pulling all nighters in the library. :banghead::floorlaugh:

 

[CJae]

Anger and fury toward a Defendant comes from the Defendant disparaging their victim. Not only did they butcher someone and stuff an innocent person in a shower, but then they spend years telling horrible lies about them for the sole purpose of avoiding a death sentence, or avoiding life in prison.

If this person would finally just say, OK i did it, I was angry, he didn't love me, I don't know where this anger came from, I killed him.

Even a teeny tiny bit of remorse for what they did, cry for him and his family not for herself.

We would back off. I speak for myself in that I do find it hard to forge ahead with my fury if someone really breaks down and says "Oh god what have i done to him! what did i do???"

I doubt we will hear that.. Not even as they put the needle in. She will say something like "i pray for Travis soul that he gets help in heaven for his pedophilia problem"

Absolutely agree!!

You butcher someone you're supposed to care about then you lie to cops the media and still you try to black mail yourself into a 2nd degree charge OR you'll make your victim, his family and his friends pay publicly takes a certain kind of inexplicable evil.

There are no words. Even after she realizes the jury may be onto her what does she do but step her slanderous BS causing the family sitting right in front of her more pain as she stares them down.

Because they wanted the death penalty they will pay. Diabolical. Not an iota of empathy accept for her own self. Crying over her own suicide letters when we all know as she does she would never kill herself. Never.

Or she wouldn't be here now for this trial per her excuse to the jury for her mark my words no conviction remark.

It's been said before but once again why is it these killers claim the suicide card other than for sympathy for themselves?

I got none for her. She has gone so far beyond in the bash the victim so I can get off plot that I can't help but hate her. She's got no redeeming human qualities. It's far too late for any intervention. Specially with her behavior in the day and days after her horrendous crime!

And this testimony at trial. She deserves a DP!! IMOO

 

[G&AMom]

Sadly, she's a liar, murderer, slanderer, and all around evil person. I don't hate her. I'm generally anti-DP, but if anyone should be the poster child for the pro DP side she'd make a very good choice.

Agreed.

 

[MaryAnn]

Baez is on HLN right now criticizing Mr Martinez. :banghead:

What nerve!! Can't believe they wanted him on??

 

[tinkabella]

I think she should be put to death just for th heinous nature of her crime. what she did to travis was horrible. the emotional and physical torture shes inflicted on his family is just overwhelming. every time i step in my shower i think of trabis. can u imagine how his family feels? Just thinking abut them having to see pics of him decomposed and in that state is horrific. there isn't enough therapy to fix that. they will forever suffer from her actions. i would have no problem preparing her needle. i hope she gets the death penalty.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

The interesting thing about bank/card statements is that sometimes the vendor will process a transaction and it won't be posted until a day or two after the transaction. It happened to me once where I bought something on a credit card and it didn't show up until 2 weeks later.

I bet the DT tries to use that angle somehow...like the 3 SLC transactions are a posting error.[/QUOTE/]


On my bank statements I can see the date and time/place it was used and also when it was debited. Wouldn't it be something if Jodi bought the plane ticket before she murdered Travis?

I think the jury can see a controlling nut case psychopath that has no problem with invading everything of Travis's, and that she used manipulation to get her foot back in the house (that she coveted) many times. Even coming in unawares and hiding.

She had no problems in offering Travis access to every orifice that she had, and no qualms in moving him into role playing that was becoming more graphic, deviant, and violent.

She laid her head on Travis's lap and heard him speak about a gun to his head and on his knees, and the thoughts and fear that was going though his head. Do you think the jury will overlook the gunshot to his head as an accident?

 

[RR0004]

OOH!
Awesome news.
Thank you.

I thought a poster here called the number on the receipt yesterday and was told this info as well. Not that it's "proof", but I would hope a WSer reported accurately.

 

[seguek9]

Omg. Jose is on again. I forgot how much he weirds me out. WHY IS HE SO TANNED? why does he sound so subdued? IMO even HE is shocked at JA....:waitasec:

Stupid Susan cut off Jose --I think he was going yo admit that even HE wouldn't rep JA. Moo.

 

[MaryAnn]

It's an unfair world. :floorlaugh:
I get pissed every time I see reality stars like Kim Kardashian making millions while I'm pulling all nighters in the library. :banghead::floorlaugh:

OT
Kanye is making her quit reality TV. boo hoo for Kim!! LOL

Kanye seems a little demanding if you ask me. First he makes her throw out all her clothes and he picks her whole new wardrobe and now telling her to quit her show. Mama Chris isn't too happy! Kim is her pride and joy...

 

[katiedid2]

When did the Helio phone with the phone sex tape get stolen...I mean, lost in Grandpa's car...I mean, oh, fiddlesticks, when did Jodi hide that cell phone and report it to the police?!? lease:

Jodi is a killer photographer and specializes as an male adjustment specialist! Multi tasker:floorlaugh:

 

[Steely Dan]

Its over already? I missed it? Dang....that was faster than my prom night....

BBM

:laughcry:

Why would you want to watch JB? As soon as his puss hits the screen or they say he's coming up I change the channel. I'd rather watch "The Kardashians" than JB. And I hate reality shows. :sick:

Unable to follow or catch up cuz of work but has anyone figured out why jodi was lying about being in Salt Lake City and why she tried to act like it was so close to Ryan's?tyia

IMO, just because she likes to lie. Also, I think she knew JM was going somewhere, but not exactly where and so she tried to shoot down his point before he could do any damage. However, it was an epic fail on her part. All of her attempting to beat around the bush is not lost on the jury. JMO

 

[You'reKidding Right?]

I don't know if that's helpful or not. I apologize if I've misrepresented anything. My experience with the tenants of the LDS faith is that much is left to interpretation, so one bishop or church leader may state one thing in their ward while another might interpret the same issue differently. It was all very confusing for me.

Jodi clearly did not understand even some of the basics of the religion. There's no way I believe she thought the law of chastity meant oral and anal was all good. Premarital sexual activity of any kind is not in line with the law of chastity as it was taught to me.

Thank you, Flourish. I'm so sorry to hear about your brother. Your answer solidifies my belief that Jodi really doesn't have any core beliefs, that the Mormon faith was just another hook to reel in Travis.

 

[katiedid2]

Omg. Jose is on again. I forgot how much he weirds me out. WHY IS HE SO TANNED? why does he sound so subdued? IMO even HE is shocked at JA....:waitasec:

Stupid Susan cut off Jose --I think he was going yo admit that even HE wouldn't rep JA. Moo.

Been muting him

 

[Mormon Attorney]

Baez is on HLN right now criticizing Mr Martinez. :banghead:

What nerve!! Can't believe they wanted him on??

Urggggggg......

 

[TexMex]

Absolutely agree!!

You butcher someone you're supposed to care about then you lie to cops the media and still you try to black mail yourself into a 2nd degree charge OR you'll make your victim, his family and his friends pay publicly takes a certain kind of inexplicable evil.

There are no words. Even after she realizes the jury may be onto her what does she do but step her slanderous BS causing the family sitting right in front of her more pain as she stares them down.

Because they wanted the death penalty they will pay. Diabolical. Not an iota of empathy accept for her own self. Crying over her own suicide letters when we all know as she does she would never kill herself. Never.

Or she wouldn't be here now for this trial per her excuse to the jury for her mark my words no conviction remark.

It's been said before but once again why is it these killers claim the suicide card other than for sympathy for themselves?

I got none for her. She has gone so far beyond in the bash the victim so I can get off plot that I can't help but hate her. She's got no redeeming human qualities. It's far too late for any intervention. Specially with her behavior in the day and days after her horrendous crime!

And this testimony at trial. She deserves a DP!! IMOO

Then dramatically lists her injuries (not even counting the ridiculous "abuse" ones)

She bumped her head on the tile

Her ankles were scraped up

One shoulder just ain't right anymore!

These jurors have her number. She can't be very happy this long weekend