• #941
I don't know why it never occurred to me that intelligence agencies could or would hack traffic cameras. It seems totally obvious now it's pointed out
In the US most states publiize traffic cams on major roadways. It’s live but not recorded, no rewind (so they say). Virginia 511

We watch the weather on traffic cams for live weather during snow, hurricanes.

Makes perfect sense.
Moo …
 
  • #942
Maybe for the majority of Americans, but not to us in NYC. While 9/11 was not “combat” in the strictest sense, the human costs were ENTIRELY visible. I watched it with my own eyes. I saw the death of my friends. It took my daughter all day to get home and she brought some co-workers with her who couldn’t get home at all.

My students and colleagues were in hysteria all day because many had family who worked in the WTC. We most certainly ARE speaking of civilians.

I’d been to the WTC many times in the past, and since 9/11 I’ve been several times to the memorial.

I know Bin Laden was Saudi, not Iranian, but Iran has sponsored terror as well.

So I may not have witnessed the American Civil War, but what I did see that day WAS a war against America.

You watch people jumping from 100 stories up, you watch 220 stories of buildings collapse, you have dust and objects from the WTC land on your car and your terrace as I did, and you cannot say it is abstract for all of us.

My opinion because I lived through it.
yep, i believe you and am sorry for what you went through and i get all the 9/11 stuff. I'm talking about what's typical of americans, not a blanket rule. and, as I think you'd agree, your experience is not typical of Americans. maybe 2 or 3 percent of the country experienced 9/11 up close like that.

the rest of us just saw it on TV or *maybe* knew someone who died. and yet it shocked us all to the core. because war is terrible. and that had gotten invisible in our sanitized, bubble-wrapped existence. why wasn't it cool and exciting like in the movies?
 
  • #943
I’ve been following this closely but have not heard any confirmation about hitting a possible nuclear threat in Iran. I would think this strategic attack would focus on that first. Has anyone seen that confirmation yet? IMHO Thanks in advance.
IMO, that objective is merely a pretext.

The point was to win on the betting markets and distract from national problems.

The leaders of US and IS have documented criminal histories and have reason to fear incarceration in their respective countries.

In the US in particular, many people who tolerate financial crimes and assaults on adult women draw the line on abuse of children. It's all coming out now.

So, wait for the stock market to close (and school in Iran to open), place your bets on insider information, then bomb like crazy.

There is no regime change without tremendous support on the ground. That is the military experience for decades.

MOO
 
  • #944
Snipped by me for focus,

This much seems reasonable to me. It doesn't seem to have such political Trump-focused aims. It doesn't even mention regime change, though I think that is a reasonable part of the aims inasmuch as it's the choices of the current regime, their decisions to facilitate terrorism that have made their country a target.

I'm trying to sort of ignore the lousy messaging coming from the president and the politics of him and his administration and look at it purely from the perspective of perceiving what Hegseth has said here to be the main goals of the operation/war. And in this sense I would see all the years through different presidents and administrations as attempts to avoid this, but with the actions of Iran and their subsidiary terrorist groups over the past 2 years or so, I can see that it's reached a point where Iran can't be trusted to stop supporting terrorist groups, and I can agree that waiting until after they have working nukes is not the best option. Imagine an Iran that says you can't go after terrorist groups that we're supporting, because they're under our nuclear umbrella?

I don't know if better diplomacy could have changed this, I only see that it hasn't.
We've tried bombing. It doesn't work. I only see that bombing hasn't changed things.

MOO
 
  • #945
I’ve been following this closely but have not heard any confirmation about hitting a possible nuclear threat in Iran. I would think this strategic attack would focus on that first. Has anyone seen that confirmation yet? IMHO Thanks in advance.
I think the first objective was to get launchers and missile stockpiles, military headquarters, and other military targets. They want to take out the ability to shoot down our planes and for them to launch missiles at other countries. Once they have hit as much of that as possible, they can bring the B1's in to hit the nuclear sites. They can't move those nuclear sites quickly and they aren't going anywhere so getting the launchers and missiles they could move around would make the most sense. I wouldn't be surprised if the B1s are in the air at this point. They have already been used to take out missile building sites. They typically take off from the US and fly nonstop to their target and back without landing. This is what was used the first time we bombed their nuclear facilities. IMO
 
  • #946
An incredible read detailing a meeting between American diplomats and Khamenei. It paints a picture of a man who was
obsessively anti-American, highly distrustful, and deologically entrenched. There is just no way that he was making a deal with the Trump administration.

Almost no traditional allies trust the USA anymore.

It is really sad how my country has lost its international credibility.

MOO
 
  • #947
yep, i believe you and am sorry for what you went through and i get all the 9/11 stuff. I'm talking about what's typical of americans, not a blanket rule. and, as I think you'd agree, your experience is not typical of Americans. maybe 2 or 3 percent of the country experienced 9/11 up close like that.

the rest of us just saw it on TV or *maybe* knew someone who died. and yet it shocked us all to the core. because war is terrible. and that had gotten invisible in our sanitized, bubble-wrapped existence. why wasn't it cool and exciting like in the movies?
It was horrific, the 911 attack. I could see the destruction from the high point of a park in my town.

Many people that live in my town died, but "luckily" I didn't know them.

It taught me, I will never be a part of doing something like that to another person, ever.

Being attacked on US soil made war less abstract to me.

MOO
 
  • #948
Australians are already being asked not to stockpile fuel.


The energy minister, Chris Bowen, says there is no immediate threat to Australia’s fuel supplies, and is warning households not to stockpile or panic-buy petrol.

There is no need to rush to the service station and fill up. I do understand people’s concerns, but it’s important that people know we do have a good stock of petrol in reserve. In Australia, there is no immediate threat to petrol supplies in Australia. There will be challenges in this difficult environment in the Middle East, the strait of Hormuz is a very important supply chain for the world.

So there are real challenges, but there is no need for panic buying, we just make the situation worse.


We have reserves for 34 days of diesel and 36 days of petrol. Under the previous government we were down to 19 days of fuel reserves.

The problem is this country needs fuel, without it transportation of goods will stop, leaving shortages of foods.
 
  • #949
I’ve been following this closely but have not heard any confirmation about hitting a possible nuclear threat in Iran. I would think this strategic attack would focus on that first. Has anyone seen that confirmation yet? IMHO Thanks in advance.
Here ya go ….

…. The satellite images show damage to sites including the Choqa Balk-e drone facility, former Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's compound, the Natanz nuclear complex and a radar system at Zahedan airbase.

….Satellite images from late January showed roofs had been built over damaged buildings at Natanz and other sites, potentially indicating Iran was trying to salvage materials from the facilities.

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Satellite imagery shows Iran's Natanz nuclear complex on March 1, 2026.SATELLITE IMAGE ©2026 VANTOR
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Satellite imagery shows damage to Iran's Natanz nuclear complex on March 2, 2026.SATELLITE IMAGE ©2026 VANTOR
 
  • #950
The Iranian negotiators reportedly told Witkoff and US President Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner "directly and with no shame" that they control 460kg. of 60% enriched uranium, and were aware that it could be quickly enriched to 90% in order to make nuclear bombs, Witkoff said.

The Iranians were proud that they had evaded all oversight protocols to achieve this, he added.

 
  • #951
The Israeli military said it had seized areas of southern Lebanon on Tuesday in its escalating conflict with the Iran-backed Hezbollah militia, as the State Department closed its embassies in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait after drone attacks and urged Americans to depart immediately from 14 Middle East countries.

As Iran expanded its retaliatory strikes and the regional conflict widened, the Trump administration signaled that the assault on Iran could go on for weeks. The Israeli military said that it was carrying out additional strikes in Iran, and had targeted weapons storage facilities in Beirut, the Lebanese capital, as Hezbollah said it had fired attack drones at Israel.

March 3, 2026, 8:50 a.m. ET
Israel’s air force is bombarding the Iranian capital of Tehran, the Israeli military just said in a statement. Iranian media reported explosions could be heard in the city. It was not immediately clear what Israeli forces were striking; over the past three days, they have assassinated top Iranian leaders and attacked government buildings.
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War with Iran: Israel said it is conducting “simultaneous strikes in Tehran and Beirut,” targeting Iranian military sites and the Iran-backed group Hezbollah, as its troops intensify their push in Lebanon. The UN has also confirmed damage to a nuclear facility in Iran for the first time since the US and Israel launched a military attack on the country.
 
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