Is a trafficking ring involved in this case?

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I doubt it, since the investigation started a long time ago. But, geesh, more landscapers?!?!

After federal agents searched Traverso's home and his parents' business in July 2008, Canby Landscape Supply
Yep, that is interesting! Wonder about the LS's involvement in Kyron's being missing, because even though i believe TH is guilty in this of something, i really don't think she did this on her own, i feel she had help, but that is JMO.
 
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Former sheriff Giusto is not running this investigation. He has no idea how this task force is going to be run. Seems to me they would be using some of the same investigators who have already been on the case. I would hardly call that "starting over again." I have lot more faith in the leaders who are currently running the MCSO.

I would imagine that the former sheriff would have some idea of how a task force is run...and, even if there are "some" of the same investigators, they have to catch the newbies up, don't they? That might not be starting over (none of us know if they will start over or not), but they'll be reviewing everything and either they or the newbies might have a revelation...you never know...

It'll be interesting to see what this task force unearths...
 
  • #187
It is mind boggling! Look at some of these headlines from the Portland FBI website:

http://portland.fbi.gov/press.htm
Coincidentally, the subjects of the press releases include the sentencing of a Bureau of Land Management employee for shady contract shenanigans (how much you wanna bet some of the vendors were landscapers), and a murder-for-hire plot. Crazy.

One item of particular interest on the list: (My apologies if this is a repeat)

Department of Justice Press Release
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[/SIZE] For Immediate Release
August 2, 2010 United States Attorney's Office
District of Oregon
Contact: (503) 727-1000

Department of Justice Releases First National Strategy to Combat Child Exploitation
U.S. Marshals Service to Launch Nationwide Operation Targeting Top 500 Most Dangerous, Non-Compliant Sex Offenders
PORTLAND, OR—In conjunction with Attorney General Eric Holder, U.S. Attorney Dwight C. Holton announced today that the Department of Justice released its first ever National Strategy for Child Exploitation Prevention and Interdiction...

The strategy builds upon the department’s accomplishments in combating child exploitation by establishing specific, aggressive goals and priorities and increasing cooperation and collaboration at all levels of government and the private sector...

As part of the overall strategy, the U.S. Marshals Service is launching a nationwide operation targeting the nation’s top 500 most dangerous, non-compliant sex offenders. In Oregon, the U.S. Marshals Service will be adding one full time deputy marshal who will serve as the district’s Sex Offender Investigations Coordinator...

U.S. Attorney Holton emphasized the importance of an aggressive nationwide strategy to combat child sexual exploitation...

The U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Oregon, along with its federal, state, and local law enforcement partners, “is absolutely committed to implementing the national strategy, and to relentlessly pursuing and prosecuting those who commit these unspeakable crimes against children.”

So now I'm sitting here wondering if the recent hoopla in the Oregon U.S. Attorney's Office and the fortified effort to fight sex crimes involving children influenced the investigation into Kyron's disappearance.

Is this why so many different agencies were involved? Was there an intense focus on sex trafficking or sex crimes early in the investigation, and is this what LE suspected that they no longer suspect? LE has never mentioned sex trafficking in relation to Kyron, nor have DY and KH, yet somehow the notion surfaced, and I've been trying to figure out why.

I do know that when a big undertaking occurs behind the scenes in a high profile case, despite efforts too keep it hidden, it makes its way into public consciousness by osmosis. And often the issue at hand is accepted as fact when in truth, it has only been held up for examination. Is that what has occurred in this case? It's possible.
 
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I do know that when a big undertaking occurs behind the scenes in a high profile case, despite efforts too keep it hidden, it makes its way into public consciousness by osmosis. And often the issue at hand is accepted as fact when in truth, it has only been held up for examination. Is that what has occurred in this case? It's possible.
sbm

Very good point!
 
  • #189
It's been my experience here from reading lots of missing-child cases that a "sex-trafficking ring" is almost always brought up as the most horrible possibility, and people can get really imaginative about it as their minds run wild, but usually it turns out to be a false lead or red herring.

I'm not ruling it out completely in my mind, but it's just as likely that the defense might be floating these rumors to throw the blame elsewhere. JMOO

It's starting to remind me of Scott Peterson's defense that some group of homeless people had kidnapped Laci and were holding her hostage by San Francisco Bay. There was never any proof of anything, but the defense kept throwing that out during interviews just to see if the public was gullible enough.

The FBI and Immigration might be involved in Kyron's case just because it was considered a possible kidnapping at one point, and also the close proximity to Canada and shipping ports.
 
  • #190
It's been my experience here from reading lots of missing-child cases that a "sex-trafficking ring" is almost always brought up as the most horrible possibility, and people can get really imaginative about it as their minds run wild, but usually it turns out to be a false lead or red herring.

I'm not ruling it out completely in my mind, but it's just as likely that the defense might be floating these rumors to throw the blame elsewhere. JMOO

It's starting to remind me of Scott Peterson's defense that some group of homeless people had kidnapped Laci and were holding her hostage by San Francisco Bay. There was never any proof of anything, but the defense kept throwing that out during interviews just to see if the public was gullible enough.

The FBI and Immigration might be involved in Kyron's case just because it was considered a possible kidnapping at one point, and also the close proximity to Canada and shipping ports.

INS, probably so.

As far as the FBI ... I posted this thread in the reference forum, with information on how and why the FBI is involved:

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108436"]FBI Involvement - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/crm01035.htm

1035

FBI Assistance in Missing Persons Cases

In a missing person case, as a matter of cooperation, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) will, at the request of a state or local law enforcement agency, make available the facilities of the FBI Identification Division and the FBI Laboratory.

Information pertaining to certain categories of missing persons, including missing children, may be entered into the missing person file of the FBI operated National Crime Information Center (NCIC) by the local law enforcement agencies and, since passage of the Missing Children Act (Pub. L. 97-272, amending, 28 U.S.C. § 534), by parents of missing children if the local law enforcement agency will not do so.

1036

24 Hours Rebuttable Presumption

The rebuttable presumption set forth in 18 U.S.C. § 1201(b) does not create a presumption of kidnapping. Rather, it creates a presumption of transportation in interstate or foreign commerce in cases where an actual kidnapping has been established. The presumption was added to the statute to give the FBI jurisdiction to investigate. In a Federal prosecution under 18 U.S.C. § 1201(a)(1), actual interstate or foreign transportation must be proved. See United States v. Moore, 571 F.2d 76 (2d Cir. 1978).

Also:

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cid/cac/kidnap.htm

In 1932, Congress gave the FBI jurisdiction under the “Lindbergh Law” to immediately investigate any reported mysterious disappearance or kidnapping involving a child of “tender age”—usually 12 or younger. And just to be clear, before we get involved there does NOT have to be a ransom demand and the child does NOT have to cross state lines or be missing for 24 hours.

Introducing the CARD Teams

Child abductions by strangers are often complex and high-profile cases. And time is of the essence.

That’s why we’ve added another tool in our Crimes Against Children program that helps our local field offices in these cases: our Child Abduction Rapid Deployment, or CARD, teams.

Here’s the “who, what, when, and where” of these teams:

WHO makes up a CARD team? FBI agents with in-depth experience and a proven track record in crimes against children investigations, especially cases where a child has been abducted by someone other than a family member. Once selected, team members go through extensive training. Each team has a designated leader. The teams work closely with behavioral analysts, National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime (NCAVC) coordinators, and Crimes Against Children coordinators.

WHAT do the CARD teams do? Relying on their expertise and experience, team members make sure the investigation moves quickly, efficiently, and thoroughly. They provide our field divisions running the investigations with on-site investigative, technical, and resource assistance during the initial critical period after a child is kidnapped.

WHEN are the teams deployed? Soon after an abduction has been reported to a local FBI field office, to FBI Headquarters, or to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, or in other cases when the FBI determines an investigation is warranted.

WHERE are the teams located and WHERE have they been deployed? We’ve created ten regional teams nationwide: two each in the northeast, southeast, north central, south central, and west. With the whole nation covered, we can send a team anywhere in the U.S. within hours.

In addition to their unique expertise, CARD teams can quickly establish an on-site command post to centralize investigative efforts and operations. Other assets they bring to the table include a new mapping tool to identify and locate registered sex offenders in the area, national and international lead coverage, and the Child Abduction Response Plan to guide investigative efforts.

Child Abductions—No Ransom

Our field offices respond to cases involving the mysterious disappearance of a child whenever and however they come to our attention. All reports of circumstances indicating that a minor has or possibly has been abducted are afforded an immediate preliminary inquiry.

In this initial inquiry, we evaluate all evidence, circumstances, and information to determine if an investigation is warranted under federal law. (For instance, it is a federal violation for a person to travel between states to engage in any sexual act with a person under 18.) If a case is warranted, we will immediately open an investigation in partnership with state and local authorities.

During 2005 alone, law enforcement entered 632,804 children as missing into the FBI’s National Crime Information Center database. Although the majority of these children were temporarily missing and not abducted, we are committed to assisting law enforcement in investigating cases where there is appropriate jurisdiction.

National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime (NCAVC)

Our National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime (NCAVC), part of our Critical Incident Response Group (CIRG) near Quantico, Virginia, provides free assistance—in the form of investigative/operational support, research, and training—to federal, state, local, and international law enforcement agencies.

In particular, the NCAVC has a rapid response element that:

Applies the most current expertise available in matters involving missing and exploited children;

Provides immediate operational assistance to federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies involved in violent crime investigations; and

Provides onsite investigative support through technical and forensic resource coordination.

Upon being notified that a child has been abducted, our field offices and the NCAVC coordinate an immediate response to the abduction situation. The National Child Search Assistance Act of 1990 states that law enforcement agencies may not observe a waiting period before accepting a missing child report and that each missing child that is reported to law enforcement must be entered immediately into the state law enforcement system and National Crime Information Center (NCIC).

Our special agents join local law enforcement in coordinating and conducting comprehensive investigations. Our Evidence Response Team personnel may conduct the forensic investigation of the abduction site, while a Rapid Start Team may immediately be deployed to coordinate and track investigative leads, which often number in the thousands.

Members of NCAVC also teach and give presentations at training courses for CAC Coordinators. In addition, more than 150 FBI agents nationwide are designated as NCAVC Coordinators and provide a necessary and effective link between the NCAVC, our local field offices, and local law enforcement.


The Morgan P. Hardiman Child Abduction and Serial Murder Investigative Resources Center (CASMIRC) was also established through legislation in 1998 under the NCAVC. According to the legislation, CASMIRC is "to provide investigative support through the coordination and provision of federal law enforcement resources, training, and application of other multidisciplinary expertise to assist federal, state, and local authorities in matters involving child abductions, mysterious disappearances of children, child homicide, and serial murder across the country."

Public Outreach

Many FBI employees are parents, too, and we want nothing more than to keep your children safe. To that end, we make a concerted effort to help prevent child abductions in the first place through public outreach and education.

For example, we’ve created a brochure for parents entitled A Parent’s Guide to Internet Safety to inform parents about the dangers of Internet-related abductions. Also see our Be Crime Smart webpage for more tips and guidance.

For more information about current kidnapping, child abduction, and missing person cases that we are investigating, visit the Kidnapping and Missing Persons webpage.

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cid/cac/crimesmain.htm

What We Investigate

Major Thefts/Violent Crime

• Art Theft
• Bank Robbery
• Cargo Theft
• Crimes Against Children
• Cruise Ship Crime
• Indian Country Crime
• Jewelry and Gems Theft
• Retail Theft
• Vehicle Theft
• Violent Gangs

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http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/1201.html

Notably: (b) With respect to subsection (a)(1), above, the failure to release the victim within twenty-four hours after he shall have been unlawfully seized, confined, inveigled, decoyed, kidnapped, abducted, or carried away shall create a rebuttable presumption that such person has been transported in interstate or foreign commerce. Notwithstanding the preceding sentence, the fact that the presumption under this section has not yet taken effect does not preclude a Federal investigation of a possible violation of this section before the 24-hour period has ended.

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That gives the FBI jurisdiction to step in right from the start on any case involving a missing child.

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(audio interview at link)

http://www.fbi.gov/inside/archive/inside080709.htm

Mr. Schiff: Hello I’m Neal Schiff and welcome to Inside the FBI, a weekly podcast about news, cases and operations. The FBI has an Office for Victim Assistance and these folks have been at some major incidents, such as the tragedy at Virginia Tech, helping those in need.

Ms. Turman: “The Office for Victim Assistance was created shortly after 9/11. And it was established really to give focus to the FBI’s Victim Assistance program. The program really became fully focused about that time. We established fulltime Victim Specialist positions for all of the FBI field offices and then began developing special victims programs as well. And our officer here at Headquarters oversees all of the programs and positions and provides support and assistance to them.”

Mr. Schiff: What do Victim Specialists do?

Ms. Turman: “Well Victim Specialists are here to ensure that every victim in an FBI investigation receives the rights and assistance to which they are entitled under the law and which will help them cope with the impact of crime.”

Mr. Schiff: What are some of the types of situations that may have your staff called out on?

Ms. Turman: “Victim Specialists can get called out on all kinds of situations involving victims. For instance, even a bank robbery. If the FBI responds to a bank robbery where there has been violence, a Victim Specialist may go out to that bank robbery to assist the victims. To provide emotional support; to help contact family members if the victim has been injured or killed; a Victim Specialist may go out to the scene of a kidnapping to provide support to the family. There are other kinds, usually it’s a violent crime of some kind where they will provide immediate on-scene support to; they’ll provide crisis intervention for the family or surviving victims; they may go to a hospital or they may, as I said, go to a victim’s home.”

Mr. Schiff: Well certainly coming to mind is the heinous crime at Virginia Tech a couple of years ago that your office definitely was on scene.

Ms. Turman: “Yes, Victim Specialists may also respond as teams to those kinds of incidents like Virginia Tech. We have Victim Assistance Rapid Deployment Teams which consist of some of our Victim Specialists who are highly trained. They have been through special training for these kinds of mass casualty events and they will go out and support the local responders as well. In Virginia Tech, we were there with local Virginia victim assistance responders. We worked alongside the Red Cross, with folks from Virginia Tech, and provided a lot of assistance, not only to the university staff, but to victims’ families and participated in the Family Support Center, but also found that they were helping people in all kinds of venues even sitting in a restaurant one evening after being at the Family Assistance Center. They found they were talking to a Virginia Tech student who was a waiter who was very impacted by the event.”

Mr. Schiff: When you are out at a scene of violence, you almost have to put yourself away from what really happened to be able to have the where-with-all to be able to assist those who are the victims?

Ms. Turman: “Absolutely. And I think our folks are trained; they’re almost all social workers; they have mental health degrees; they’ve worked with violent crime victims for many, many years. Most of them have Masters Degrees and they are professional Victim Specialists, so they have to have a degree of objectivity. They look at this as professionals; so they’re trained to provide to provide support; they’re trained not to get to personally involved. So it is their job; they care very much, and they are able to provide a wonderful level of compassionate support, but it’s also very practical and they approach it as part of their job. So they can do their jobs without losing their objectivity. Somebody has to be able to do that and to make good decisions to provide support and assistance to people who are not able to think very clearly and not able to manage sometimes even the most basic tasks because everything has been pulled out from under them.”

Mr. Schiff: How large a staff do you have and what kind of training do they go through?


Ms. Turman: “Right now we have 122 fulltime Victim Specialist positions for the field and we have about, we’ve just grown, to about 20-something people here at headquarters. All of our people come to their jobs with a great deal of professional training and education. And then they go through additional training here. We have annual training for all of our staff that’s very FBI specific that deals with specific kinds of cases. A lot of our folks are licensed social workers or clinical social workers, so they have to through additional training to maintain those licenses ever year. If they are on the Rapid Deployment Teams, then they go through specialized training for that. We also have Child Interview Specialists, Forensic Child Interview Specialists on our staff who receive specialized training to be able to do those jobs, to interview child adolescent victims who have been victims of all kinds of crimes and sometimes have been witnesses to horrific crimes as well. So they have specialized training in child development and how children develop language. They may also interview kids who have developmental disabilities.”

(more at link)


http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cid/victimassist/home.htm
 
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It's been my experience here from reading lots of missing-child cases that a "sex-trafficking ring" is almost always brought up as the most horrible possibility, and people can get really imaginative about it as their minds run wild, but usually it turns out to be a false lead or red herring.

I agree. I have been lurking on Websleuths for a while before I decided to get an account and a child sex ring scenario is brought up into every case. I think it's because when you can't find an explanation for where a missing child is in a case full of twists and turns, you start to think that the explanation has to be "outrageous" if the case seems "outrageous" when the explanation is usually very simple and not that rare at all. It seems that the kids who would get kidnapped into a sex ring are runaways, throwaways, etc because why would the ring want to risk kidnapping a child who they know will have family and friends who will search for him and possible expose their ring? It would make more sense to kidnap some runaway who no one is really looking for. And I know that there are missing kids who have never been found so you might say that they're all involved in a sex ring but the more likely explanation is that they were killed by a lone pedophile and their bodies have just never been found. Now if you are talking on a much smaller scale as in someone pays Terri money for Kyron and she lets him take Kyron and god knows what happens next? Maybe.

Another reason I find it hard to believe that a sex ring is involved is that wouldn't there be some huge biggest search in Oregon history search going on right now? It seems weird to just give press conferences when a child is going through that. Or are they keeping it on the DL as to not get the ring worried and risk getting Kyron killed? They just seem a little too "calm" if this scenario has truly taken place.
 
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From Here: http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PageServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US&PageId=2816#7

Aren't most missing kids a result of custodial disagreements?

The largest number of missing children are, from most frequent to least frequent:

1. Runaways
2. Family abductions
3. Lost, injured or otherwise missing children
4. Nonfamily abductions (in these cases, the child is at greatest risk of injury or death).


How serious are family abductions?

All cases of child abduction must be taken very seriously. In most family-related cases, children are told that the left-behind parent doesn’t want or love them. These children may live the life of a fugitive, always on the run with the noncustodial parent, isolated from family, friends, home, and school.

For definitions, kidnapping statistics, and more parental abduction information please read:

Kidnapping of Juveniles: Patterns From National Incident Based Report System (NIBRS)
 
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Someone else may have mentioned this. I think it is interesting the keywords in the posts from the fbi website. Steroids, bodybuilding, police, and landscapers. I have seen those words connected to TH in the past. I am one who has been hesitant to believe she is culpable in this tragedy. I still think these connections are interesting.
 
  • #194
after reading about this.......could this of happened to Kyron?
[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2203356&postcount=1"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - TX - Mineola Swinger's Club Child Sex Ring[/ame]
 
  • #195
I agree. I have been lurking on Websleuths for a while before I decided to get an account and a child sex ring scenario is brought up into every case. I think it's because when you can't find an explanation for where a missing child is in a case full of twists and turns, you start to think that the explanation has to be "outrageous" if the case seems "outrageous" when the explanation is usually very simple and not that rare at all. It seems that the kids who would get kidnapped into a sex ring are runaways, throwaways, etc because why would the ring want to risk kidnapping a child who they know will have family and friends who will search for him and possible expose their ring? It would make more sense to kidnap some runaway who no one is really looking for. And I know that there are missing kids who have never been found so you might say that they're all involved in a sex ring but the more likely explanation is that they were killed by a lone pedophile and their bodies have just never been found. Now if you are talking on a much smaller scale as in someone pays Terri money for Kyron and she lets him take Kyron and god knows what happens next? Maybe.

Another reason I find it hard to believe that a sex ring is involved is that wouldn't there be some huge biggest search in Oregon history search going on right now? It seems weird to just give press conferences when a child is going through that. Or are they keeping it on the DL as to not get the ring worried and risk getting Kyron killed? They just seem a little too "calm" if this scenario has truly taken place.

Exactly, Eileen! They wouldn't keep tap-dancing around it if that was the focus.

ETA: I can't prove that a it isn't, but there's not much evidence that there is. A TH and DD alliance is much more likely, given what we know.
 
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I don't think necessarily Kyron is in a sex trafficking ring. I do, however, believe TH is a pedophile or perhaps sells child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 - of Kyron, of the baby, of kids - for profit over the Internet. I also think she is quite capable of handing him off to an SO or even having an SO help her (however, the fact that we have no picture of a second suspect by now means they either know who it is and are building a case, there is no other person, or he/she wasn't involved). And when I say second suspect, TH is a suspect they haven't named IMO.

I think a thread named "Was Kyron a victim of sexual abuse or child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬?" is more realistic IMO than the trafficking ring...
 
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After Sheriff Staton's comments about "things we don't want to know about," I did some research and found this case in Newberg, which is just a suburb to the south west of Portland. This happened just this past fall.

Police arrest four in Newberg 'sex abuse ring':

Graphic details emerge on Newberg 'sex abuse ring'
By KATU.com and News Wires October 7, 2009


These children were held (one 4-years-old) and video tapes made of them being raped, including sex with a dog. Of course the tapes were sold and distributed...
WORSE: Here are the sentences they received:

Alisa Nice was given five months in jail and 5 years probation.

Patricio Moreno was given five years probation and a lifetime on the sex offender registry since he passed a lie detector test where he said he didn’t knoiw the girl was underage and he agreed to testify against Daily.

Garcia entered into a guilty plea...he will testify against the other members of the ring. Prosecutors gave him a cushy sentence in exchange for his testimony. He got 40 days in jail along with 5 years probation along with lifetime status on the sex offender registry.

Darrin V Daily and Robert Dwain Thompson were also charged and not sure of their sentences. Daily supposedly the ring-leader.

I'm thinking Portland authorities have not been diligent even knowing this exists right in thier area. "Things we don't want to know about...things we wish we didn't know about." Pretending it doesn't exist doesn't make the children any safer.

Just sayin'
 
  • #198
After Sheriff Staton's comments about "things we don't want to know about," I did some research and found this case in Newberg, which is just a suburb to the south west of Portland. This happened just this past fall.

Police arrest four in Newberg 'sex abuse ring':

Graphic details emerge on Newberg 'sex abuse ring'
By KATU.com and News Wires October 7, 2009


These children were held (one 4-years-old) and video tapes made of them being raped, including sex with a dog. Of course the tapes were sold and distributed...
WORSE: Here are the sentences they received:

Alisa Nice was given five months in jail and 5 years probation.

Patricio Moreno was given five years probation and a lifetime on the sex offender registry since he passed a lie detector test where he said he didn’t knoiw the girl was underage and he agreed to testify against Daily.

Garcia entered into a guilty plea...he will testify against the other members of the ring. Prosecutors gave him a cushy sentence in exchange for his testimony. He got 40 days in jail along with 5 years probation along with lifetime status on the sex offender registry.

Darrin V Daily and Robert Dwain Thompson were also charged and not sure of their sentences. Daily supposedly the ring-leader.

I'm thinking Portland authorities have not been diligent even knowing this exists right in thier area. "Things we don't want to know about...things we wish we didn't know about." Pretending it doesn't exist doesn't make the children any safer.

Just sayin'

15, 14, & 4yo??? Slugs of the worst kind! And they advertised on Craig's List. Geeeeze

Who prosecutes these crimes that the sentencing is so mild? Sentencing like this explains why Oregon is so high on the list for sex crimes. Poor little girls, hoping they are get the therapy necessary to live a happy, productive life. moo mho
 
  • #199
This really makes me sooooo angry! :furious:
 
  • #200
After Sheriff Staton's comments about "things we don't want to know about," I did some research and found this case in Newberg, which is just a suburb to the south west of Portland. This happened just this past fall.

Police arrest four in Newberg 'sex abuse ring':

Graphic details emerge on Newberg 'sex abuse ring'
By KATU.com and News Wires October 7, 2009


These children were held (one 4-years-old) and video tapes made of them being raped, including sex with a dog. Of course the tapes were sold and distributed...
WORSE: Here are the sentences they received:

Alisa Nice was given five months in jail and 5 years probation.

Patricio Moreno was given five years probation and a lifetime on the sex offender registry since he passed a lie detector test where he said he didn’t knoiw the girl was underage and he agreed to testify against Daily.

Garcia entered into a guilty plea...he will testify against the other members of the ring. Prosecutors gave him a cushy sentence in exchange for his testimony. He got 40 days in jail along with 5 years probation along with lifetime status on the sex offender registry.

Darrin V Daily and Robert Dwain Thompson were also charged and not sure of their sentences. Daily supposedly the ring-leader.

I'm thinking Portland authorities have not been diligent even knowing this exists right in thier area. "Things we don't want to know about...things we wish we didn't know about." Pretending it doesn't exist doesn't make the children any safer.

Just sayin'

WHAT???!! The longest sentence 5 months? Days? Probation? OMG. What was the legal system thinking?

It scares me knowing that child sexual abuse and child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 are related to two families involved in Kyron's case. I mean, it really really does. That to me is a lot.

I hope those poor babies are now in safe environments, with lots of love and counseling, and that those evil evil people can't ever again get near them or any other children. Because they'll just go do it again, IMO. Pedophilia isn't curable.

I truly don't understand how people can do these things. I just...don't.
 

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