Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #11

[JennieM]

Apparently, 75% of the Gaza population was in favour of the October 7th massacre.

If so, Israel has every right to retaliate in order to root out the munitions and the terrorist headquarters.

75% of the population is onboard with Hamas. So they are part of the problem as well. JMO

You are saying the whole Gaza population was interviewed?

 

[Friday Fan]

For all of us here complaining about fear of Palestinians, think of how the people of Israel feel. Also many of them are also US citizens. They have family here. My husband's nephew is an Orthodox Jew. The other night he said, he's going to Israel for two weeks in February. (My jaw kinda drops..Will the war be over then???) Obviously, he's OK with whatever.....It's not scaring him.

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

BBM. There is no way to "crush" Hamas because they look just like everybody else. The PM knows it, so he's decided to crush every human being who lives there.

Hamas terrorists are the ones carrying and using weapons, launching rockets, and filming themselves raping and torturing women, burning babies, etc. I have no doubt many will be identified. They are the ones who are driving white pickups loaded with arms, and defending the tunnels. Israel has always had a lot of intelligence information on members of Hamas. They have been locating specific leaders.
So they may blend in a hospital, but they are still located and taken out.

Recently found paperwork and captured terrorists are supplying more information. So there is no carpet bombing going on, no firing on every person seen, no going into the hospital and eliminating every person found. The PM can't order Israeli soldiers to just shoot everyone on sight because the soldiers wouldn't follow such an order. moo

 

[Brightchaser47]

IDF recovers body of Cpl. Noa Marciano from Gaza, days after announcing her death​

The IDF says it has recovered the body of Cpl. Noa Marciano from the Gaza Strip, three days after announcing she had been killed in Hamas captivity.

Marciano’s body was recovered from a building near Shifa Hospital, as troops there continue to search for terror infrastructure.

Marciano, 19, of the Combat Intelligence Collection Corps 414th unit, was serving at the Nahal Oz IDF base when it was overrun by terrorists during their murderous onslaught on southern Israel on October 7. She lived in Modiin and was the oldest of three siblings.

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-recovers-body-of-cpl-noa-marciano-from-gaza-days-after-announcing-her-death/

That sounds to me like it was on the campus of the hospital, but we'll see...

 

[JennieM]

For the people in the back who didn't hear, the third option means the "removal" of Jewish life.

But it is the removal of Palestinian life that the world is witnessing, now, in actual real terms. But let’s not talk about that.

 

[Momoffourboys]

For all of us here complaining about fear of Palestinians, think of how the people of Israel feel. Also many of them are also US citizens. They have family here. My husband's nephew is an Orthodox Jew. The other night he said, he's going to Israel for two weeks in February. (My jaw kinda drops..Will the war be over then???) Obviously, he's OK with whatever.....It's not scaring him.

Flights to Israel are waitlisted. They are packed. So much so, that United is resuming flights to help. Flights leaving Israel are empty. You can get an entire airplane to yourself.

 

[JennieM]

Hostage negotiator 'hopeful' on deal within a week​

A top negotiator who has been involved in recent talks around the release of some of the hostages held by Hamas in Gaza has told the Associated Press he hopes for an agreement within a week.

Abbas Ibrahim - Lebanon's former intelligence chief - said a deal could be close if Israel budged.

Quote Message: I think it is close if Israel retreats from some conditions or from its rejection of some of the conditions requested by Hamas which are very logical... Israel is still rejecting those conditions. When they agree to these conditions, it will be fast. from Abbas Ibrahim Negotiator and former Lebanese General Security head
I think it is close if Israel retreats from some conditions or from its rejection of some of the conditions requested by Hamas which are very logical... Israel is still rejecting those conditions. When they agree to these conditions, it will be fast.
Abbas IbrahimNegotiator and former Lebanese General Security head

It's expected that under the deal being discussed, some of the estimated 240 Israeli hostages taken into Gaza would be released in exchange for some Palestinian children and women currently held in Israel's prisons.

Ibrahim said Hamas's conditions at minimum include "the freedom of movement for people inside Gaza from south to north or from north to south. This is one of the issues where there remains disagreement.

"But in my view, things will go toward a positive end. There will be an exchange and there will be a humanitarian pause."

Ibrahim has been involved in talks since the war began six weeks ago, including on evacuations of civilians and humanitarian truces.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67446662

 

[katydid23]

Lack of supplies is forcing staff at Al-Shifa Hospital to make "harrowing" decisions, director says​

From CNN’s Kareem Khadder and Eyad Kourdi

The lack of medical supplies at the Al-Shifa Hospital is forcing staff to make “harrowing” decisions, the facility’s director, Dr. Mohammad Abu Salmiyah, told Al-Jazeera Arabic in a phone interview from inside the complex Thursday.

Medics have had to amputate patients’ limbs to prevent the spread of infection from wounds that go untreated due to the lack of resources, he said, and there is no medicine for children suffering from diarrhea and vomiting.

Damage from raid: Al-Shifa is at the center of an ongoing Israeli military raid that started in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

Abu Salmiyah said medical equipment in the MRI, CT and X-ray departments had been destroyed in the raid, as had the pharmacy, and the hospital was still completely dark due to the lack of electricity. More than 7,000 people were still trapped inside, he added.

November 16, 2023 Israel-Hamas war

Israel released a photo and video of an alleged "operational tunnel shaft" it claimed was found in the Al-Shifa Hospital complex in Gaza. Hamas rejected the claim as "baseless lies."

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Hamas has plenty of generators for electricity. Hamas has a medical unit for their own terrorists use.They have meds for them and food for them.

If Hamas cared about these suffering people their leaders would not be sitting in the bar in the Qatar Four Seasons Hotel.

 

[otto]

Regarding the question of why IDF and Israeli politicians are certain that hostages were kept beneath the hospital ... we know that IDF offered generous rewards to anyone in Gaza who helped the IDF locate hostages. I think that is how a female Israeli soldier was discovered a couple of weeks ago, and I think that is why the IDF knows that hostages are in the tunnels beneath and near the hospital. I think they have received tips about the location of hostages - several tips.

 

[Dotta]

"Jewish pediatrician Darren Klugman ​

is suspended by Johns Hopkins after ​

'deeply disturbing' posts where he branded all Palestinians 'blood thirsty morally depraved animals'."​

Jewish pediatrician suspended over 'deeply disturbing' Palestine posts

Dr. Darren Klugman has been place on leave by Johns Hopkins hospital in Maryland over offensive tweets about Palestinians.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[MyBelle]

But it is the removal of Palestinian life that the world is witnessing, now, in actual real terms. But let’s not talk about that.

Indeed, it is being talked about...much to the disdain of those who prefer genocide.

How to Define Genocide

A historian of the Holocaust examines Israel’s rhetoric and actions in Gaza.

www.newyorker.com

JMO

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

You are saying the whole Gaza population was interviewed?

It's a poll, that's how extrapolation/polling works. Were you expecting fewer people to choose option 3?

 

[Momoffourboys]

For all of us here complaining about fear of Palestinians, think of how the people of Israel feel. Also many of them are also US citizens. They have family here. My husband's nephew is an Orthodox Jew. The other night he said, he's going to Israel for two weeks in February. (My jaw kinda drops..Will the war be over then???) Obviously, he's OK with whatever.....It's not scaring him.

And Israelis don’t fear Palestinians. Many Israelis and Palestinians have married and raise families. Many Israelis and Palestinians are close. They share similar values and amazing food.

Israelis, also, won’t put up with Hamas slaughtering its people. Not Jews. Not Muslims. Not Christians. Not Buddhists. That’s why every single Israeli has said, our war is not with Palestinians. It is with Hamas.

 

[JennieM]

Hamas has plenty of generators for electricity. Hamas has a medical unit for their own terrorists use.They have meds for them and food for them.

If Hamas cared about these suffering people their leaders would not be sitting in the bar in the Qatar Four Seasons Hotel.

I know, you also said earlier about the dying hungry children.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Regarding the question of why IDF and Israeli politicians are certain that hostages were kept beneath the hospital ... we know that IDF offered generous rewards to anyone in Gaza who helped the IDF locate hostages. I think that is how a female Israeli soldier was discovered a couple of weeks ago, and I think that is why the IDF knows that hostages are in the tunnels beneath and near the hospital. I think they have received tips about the location of hostages - several tips.

Maybe a lot of intel from the captured terrorists, also.

 

[Dotta]

Hamas has plenty of generators for electricity. Hamas has a medical unit for their own terrorists use.They have meds for them and food for them.

If Hamas cared about these suffering people their leaders would not be sitting in the bar in the Qatar Four Seasons Hotel.

But Hamas are terrorists.
And probably don't care.

Why to accuse regular Palestinians and starve them???

Is it their fault that leaders are in another country in this four seasons hotel?

In a bar??

Really,
does anybody accuse citizens of regimes?
Or feel pity for them?

JMO

 

[JennieM]

It's a poll, that's how extrapolation/polling works. Were you expecting fewer people to choose option 3?

Page 5 of the Survey.

Sample size is 277 for Gaza Strip and 391 of the West Bank.

A total of 668 people were interviewed.

 

[katydid23]

I know, you also said earlier about the dying hungry children.

It's true. There are videos of the Hamas leaders living in the lap of luxury. They are billionaires. Why don't they send some money and supplies to their starving people?

I guarantee you there is gas and food and water right underneath the hospital, reserved for the terrorists to use.

Why did Hamas go to the civilians homes in Israel and coming these atrocities in the first place. They brought this on themselves.

They raped, killed and pillaged then scurried back to hide under mosques and hospitals, using their suffering people as shields.

Israel does not need to keep allowing this to happen. They have pushed so far into Gaza already that they cannot turn back until they destroy the munitions and tunnels. It may take awhile but there is no turning back.

 

[Brightchaser47]

Maybe a lot of intel from the captured terrorists, also.

Which is why I'm glad some were captured.

 

[otto]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1725363720036254006