Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #12

[fred&edna]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1727025726095053155

Just now: White House says it will review terror group designations following Houthi takeover of Israeli-flagged ship. Biden removed Houthis from the terror list in 2021.

 

[Vern]

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Can you please provide an actal link to this rather than just a screen shot? I'd certainly like to read the Times of Israel article it is supposedly from.

"Pro-Palestinian activists", even cited in an MSM paper, are akin to "Hamas Spokespersonman" or "Hamas denies" being cited as the source of the information in their articles especially if the "Pro-Palestinian Activist" has any genocidal "from the river to the sea" footage and posts eminating from their account.

I've said it before, the truth is always somewhere in between, so it would be nice to have the link so that I can judge the biasness' - or not - of this "source" for myself.

Thanks.

 

[Teche]

I hope the hostage/prisoner exchange is one-for-one.

 

[PrairieWind]

Latest details on hostage deal from Paul Cunningham

The English-language Israeli station i24 is reporting what it says are elements of the hostage deal being negotiated between Israel and Hamas, with the assistance of Qatar.

The unconfirmed report says:

53 hostages are to be released, mostly children and mothers.

There will be a four-day ceasefire, with some hostages released each day.

150 Palestinian prisoners will be released by Israel, mostly women and minors.

The hostages will be released through Egypt's Rafah crossing.

Hamas will give the names of hostages who are to be released a day in advance.

Hostages of foreign countr(ies) could be part of the deal.

Hamas will not release any Israeli solders, male hostages or bodies of those who have died at this time.

As it Happened: Netanyahu says Hamas war will continue

All the latest developments in the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas

www.rte.ie

Now why would Hamas not release the bodies of hostages which have died? Hiding something obviously.

 

[Chimera]

Hamas will not release any Israeli solders, male hostages or bodies of those who have died at this time.

https://www.rte.ie/-israel-gaza-blog/

Snipped for focus.
Bbm.
Re. the bolded : How sad for their loved ones.
Let their families have them back to bury and mourn.
So selfish of Hamas.
Omo.

Eta: @PrairieWind : Thanks, you answered my question. Ita.
If the bodies show signs of torture or enforced starvation, etc. Hamas will want to hide behind their dirty deeds.

 

[Friday Fan]

And so it begins...........I hope the hostage exchange doesn't stop this work

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-breaches-blast-door-in-hamas-tunnel-under-shifa-hospital-in-gaza-city/

IDF breaches blast door in Hamas tunnel under Shifa Hospital in Gaza City​

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By EMANUEL FABIAN Today, 8:25 p

The IDF says it has breached a blast door at the end of a Hamas tunnel discovered by forces last week underneath Gaza’s Shifa Hospital.

It publishes two images, one showing the open door and the other further inside the tunnel.

ETA: Mannie Fabian's twitter shows the two pics in opposite order. The heavy blast door is the first pic. Further in the tunnel are the white doors and some type of electronic device on the wires.

 

[margarita25]

Rsbm

Aliza Samuel and her friend were hiding behind a bush during the #HamasMassacre and watched Hamas terrorists line their friends up one by one and execute them.

“I had to come all the way over here to hold her mouth shut, literally to gag her because I couldn’t let her make noise.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1726930483320107203

Wow, this is quite an account (they all are).

Lined up and shot. Straight out of the Nazis.

Can’t even imagine the PTSD, for all these survivors, and the community- there can’t be enough therapy or meds for something like this.

 

[Dotta]

"Israel says hostage release deal could be approved in 'hours'."​

Israel says hostage release deal could be approved in 'hours'

According to Mark Regev - a senior adviser to Netanyahu, if a hostage deal is agreed, the release could be approved by the Israeli government 'very quickly'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Vern]

RSBM

Second sentence : Exactly.
It looks like Hamas and their supporters/enablers are pretending to be lacking: starving, wanting for clothes and food --- when in reality they're not.
Professional victims.

In a way, it's good that Hamas showed the footage of the Israeli victims being dragged via truck or motorbike into Gaza, since it showed the true face of Palestinians.
None of those people were starving skeletons and all looked like they were clean and well fed.
It's sad that other nations are being forced to provide for them via taxes, when it's apparent they're not in need or want.
Omo.
RSBM

Just want to point out that the footage f hostages being forcibly relocated into Gaza and the footage of them being dragged into Shifa (one of the furthest hospitas for them to reach in Northern Gaza) was recorded on 7th October 2023.

BUT, I'm also quite certain that the food supplies have gone down considerably for any innocent Palestnians since then.

BUT, Hamas, and probably their family members, are well-supplied with food and water they got hidden underground somewhere in the north given their looking pretty healthy just last week in the videos taken when they and the IDF were fighting outside Shifa before the IDF made entry.

Hamas may also be experiencing a dwindling of their own subterranian stocks (because the IDF is slowly but determindly destroying those stocks along with their tunnel network) given the Xeet that I put in here via link this morning of the three Gazan citizens taking matters into their own hands and beating the Hamas Policeman who was caught stealing Humanitarian Food Aid. Seems Hamas is quite willing and able to pilfer international huanitarian aid from the innocents and int their own hands. What heroes they are.

 

[nao]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/clip-of-israeli-kids-singing-of-wiping-out-nations-enemies-elicits-outrage/

 

[margarita25]

13m ago

South African lawmakers have voted in favour of closing down the Israeli embassy in South Africa and suspending all diplomatic relations with Israeluntil it agrees to a ceasefire in Gaza.

The vote, which was adopted by a 248-91 margin, is largely symbolic as it will be up to the government whether to implement it.

Meanwhile, South African president Cyril Ramaphosa accused Israel of war crimes and “genocide” in Gaza as he chaired an extraordinary summit of the BRICS group on Tuesday. Ramaphosa said:


He called for an “immediate and comprehensive ceasefire” and the deployment of a UN force “to monitor the cessation of hostilities and protect civilians.”

Israeli cabinet approves deal for pause in fighting – as it happened

This blog is now closed.

www.theguardian.com

BBM from above:

“South African lawmakers have voted in favour of closing down the Israeli embassy in South Africa and suspending all diplomatic relations with Israeluntil it agrees to a ceasefire in Gaza.

The vote, which was adopted by a 248-91 margin, is largely symbolic as it will be up to the government whether to implement it.”


Wow, this is pretty big, lawmakers voting to close down the Israeli Embassy in South Africa and suspend all diplomatic relations…I wonder if the government will choose to implement this.


(Eta: Now I need to Google the history on their relations)

 

[Simply Southern]

Video: Jordanian field hospital arrives in Khan Younis in southern Gaza​

Trucks carrying a Jordanian field hospital to treat trauma injuries and premature babies arrived in Gaza's Khan Younis on Nov. 21. (Video: Reuters)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/21/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-palestine/#link-ULR4AEFPLZEFRD4MCX63D2XB6E

It was originally to be built in Egypt, near the border. Here'a an earlier announcement, 11/10. I did confirm Al-Arish is in Egypt.
Something happened ...moo


The Turkish official added that Ankara had requested Cairo’s approval to build the field hospitals in Al-Arish, which lies about 40 kilometres (25 miles) from the Rafah border, the only crossing to Gaza not controlled by Israel.

“We received the green light from Egyptian authorities. We will set up these hospitals in the areas shown by the Egyptian authorities.”

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231114-turkiyes-mobile-hospitals-arrive-in-egypt-for-palestinians-in-gaza/

 

[Dotta]

Susan Sarandon: Jews 'getting taste of what feels like to be Muslim'

Susan Sarandon is currently leading pro-Palestine protests; chanting 'from the river to the sea' and lauding Roger Waters, long accused of being antisemitic.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Friday Fan]

It was originally to be built in Egypt, near the border. Here'a an earlier announcement, 11/10. I did confirm Al-Arish is in Egypt.
Something happened ...moo


The Turkish official added that Ankara had requested Cairo’s approval to build the field hospitals in Al-Arish, which lies about 40 kilometres (25 miles) from the Rafah border, the only crossing to Gaza not controlled by Israel.

“We received the green light from Egyptian authorities. We will set up these hospitals in the areas shown by the Egyptian authorities.”

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231114-turkiyes-mobile-hospitals-arrive-in-egypt-for-palestinians-in-gaza/

I believe Jordan's was planned for/in Gaza.
And Turkey's was planned for/in Egypt.

 

[Vern]

I would argue that this is a very poor analogy. Napoleon was very good about ensuing the battle occurred at the time and place of his choosing. But he never hid his forces behind children like Hamas. He fought his army against the enemy army, not against their civilians. He won because his army was better, more professional. In a way, Napoleon is the opposite of Hamas.

Napoleon was not a terrorist.

There is no comparison with terrorists who deliberatly target innocent persons, exploit innocent persons and use them as shields to hide behind. The very definition of terrorism.

 

[margarita25]

Susan Sarandon: Jews 'getting taste of what feels like to be Muslim'

Susan Sarandon is currently leading pro-Palestine protests; chanting 'from the river to the sea' and lauding Roger Waters, long accused of being antisemitic.

www.dailymail.co.uk

(As “Thelma and Louise” sales plummet on Netflix and every movie platform…

I don’t have time to listen to her speeches as very eager here to catch up on the hostage situation and read it here, not elsewhere al though I’m tempted to google/YT it) but I wonder if Susan S mentions the hostages. If hostages are not mentioned, or Hamas’ slaughter is not acknowledged, then…)


Eta2:

What, Roger Waters long accused of being Antisemitic…nooooo…I didn’t know that! now I have to rip up my favorite Dark Side of the Moon tshirt. Grrr. And rip The Wall patch off my jacket? I’ll do it. That’s how much I oppose antisemitism.

 

[Elley Mae]

Susan Sarandon dumped by Hollywood agents UTA over anti-Jewish rant

Exclusive | Susan Sarandon dumped by Hollywood agency UTA over anti-Jewish rant

The Oscar winner was dumped by UTA after telling a pro-Palestinian rally that frightened Jews are “getting a taste of how it feels to be Muslim in America.”

pagesix.com

…

Never was a fan.

 

[margarita25]

Rsbm
Hostages of foreign countr(ies) could be part of the deal.

As it Happened: Netanyahu says Hamas war will continue

All the latest developments in the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas

www.rte.ie

From above:

“Hostages of foreign countr(ies) could be part of the deal.”

So Russia has 7 prisoners per upstream source. I was thinking last night that if other countries were allowed, as possibly indicated above, wanna bet Russia will be on the list. But then I was thinking comments would be made about it, and attraction drawn to this, so maybe it won’t happen so it doesn’t outwardly look that in the pool of 24 countries with hostages, there is some sort of alliance/preference (for lack of a better term) for Russian hostages, and maybe Putin probably could care less, or not could be the opposite, and…

yeah constant head spin, this war, these wars.

 

[margarita25]

Susan Sarandon dumped by Hollywood agents UTA over anti-Jewish rant

Exclusive | Susan Sarandon dumped by Hollywood agency UTA over anti-Jewish rant

The Oscar winner was dumped by UTA after telling a pro-Palestinian rally that frightened Jews are “getting a taste of how it feels to be Muslim in America.”

pagesix.com

…

Never was a fan.

Told ya it wasn’t gonna go well lol

 

[sds71]

On 21 Nov. an AC-130 gunship engaged individuals responsible for launching a missile attack on U.S. and Coalition personnel at Al Assad Airbase, Iraq. The gunship maintained visual confirmation of the individuals from the time of the launch to the time of engagement. This strike resulted in several enemy casualties.

https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/1727042199626698949?s=20