Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #12

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Israel presents most convincing evidence yet of Hamas military activity at Gaza's largest hospital​

However, video footage released by the Israel Defence Forces falls short of proving there was a substantial secret subterranean command and control base below al Shifa hospital complex.


What it does show is the presence of men with guns inside al Shifa, something doctors and officials there have repeatedly denied any knowledge of since this war began.

The IDF also showed footage of a pick-up truck it found inside the hospital compound that it says was loaded with weapons and munitions.

And it presented CCTV footage from the night of 7 October from inside the hospital.

One clip shows men, at least one of them armed, hustling what it says is a hostage by force through the hospital's main entrance lobby.

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''There are thought to be about 240 people being held hostage by Hamas.
Four hostages have been released and another was freed by Israeli forces. Ori Megidish, an Israeli solider, was freed during ground operations in Gaza on 29 October. Two women, Nurit Cooper and Yocheved Lifschitz, were freed on Monday 24 October. On Friday 20 October, two US hostages - a mother and daughter - were also freed.
Hamas says it has hidden the hostages in "safe places and tunnels" within Gaza. Israel Defense Forces (IDF) have previously said the hostages include 20 children and between 10 and 20 over-60s.''

''This list is regularly updated and names may change, as some people feared kidnapped are confirmed to have been killed or released.
Last updated on 20 November 2023 at 18:07 GMT.''

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Shani Goren was seen by family members in a video posted online by Hamas
''Shani Goren, 29, was kidnapped her home in Nir Oz and later seen by family members in a video posted by Hamas. The granddaughter of Uruguayan nationals, she was granted citizenship after her abduction and Uruguay has told local media it is working for her release.''
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Doron Katz Asher (C) and daughters Aviv (L) and Raz (R) were among those abducted, according to videos seen by relatives
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Shiri Bibas and her two young children being taken away by Hamas
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Mia Schem, 21, who holds dual French and Israeli nationality, appeared in the first hostage video released by Hamas saying that she had been abducted from the festival. The Israel Defense Forces confirmed she had been taken hostage and said they were in touch with her family, who agreed images from the video could be shown.
 
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But, don't forget they DO have their HAMAS terrorist leaders calling for the death of all Jews/Infidels around the globe! And, they cheer when those terrorists bring tortured hostages into their city.

Why should anyone trust the Hamas-led neighbor who declares it's their holy mission to see them dead??
You can't.
They're just not a nation. Maybe if they were, they would grow up and behave like one.
Right now, they're spoiled brats with an MS-13 type govt local govt running ramshackle all over the place.
 
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(only took 44 days)

International Committee of the Red Cross President met with Hamas' political leader Ismail Haniyeh in Qatar, demanding the "immediate release of hostages. The ICRC is insisting that our teams be allowed to visit the hostages to check on their welfare and deliver medications, and for the hostages to be able to communicate with their families."
That's new! Optimistic that they can do their job. I hope it works. The world deserves an accounting of the hostages after complying with Hamas incited pro-Gaza protests around the world.
 
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Eta: wait a minute, is the hostage’s lower right leg just hanging over the side, and not missing? (2:55 in video). Have my eyes been seeing this wrong the whole time?
 
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That's new! Optimistic that they can do their job. I hope it works. The world deserves an accounting of the hostages after complying with Hamas incited pro-Gaza protests around the world.
IMO they’re feeling the pressure after the CCTV footage yesterday and the interrogation video that shows they, not only were fully aware, but allowed Hamas to operate under their noses. And lied about it.
 
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That's a BIG donate button... Must be Abu-bu's doing.
They either need more weapons or more Hamas headbands.
Maybe they will give personalized bombs to the first 25 who donate?

jmo
It's fake and created by Israelis. Source that it's fake: Haaretz, which is an Israeli newspaper.

Israelis hijack Hamas.com, turning it into a display of October 7 atrocities

Israelis Hijack Hamas.com, Turning It Into a Display of October 7 Atrocities​

A counter on the site proudly declares 1,400 'Zionist civilians murdered,' 41 'Zionists children & babies murdered and burnt alive.' The website does not appear to be linked to Hamas, whose actual website, Hamas.ps, currently appears to be offline

Snapshots of hamas.com preserved by the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine show that as far back as 2005 the domain had been acquired by apparent cybersquatters, who used it for posting links to “Jewish Singles,” “Arabsex,” and “Free Casino Games.”

 
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Eta: wait a minute, is the hostage’s lower right leg just hanging over the side, and not missing? (2:55 in video). Have my eyes been seeing this wrong the whole time?
It looks like it's hanging to me. You can slow the video down.
 
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In breaking news, we’re seeing reports that the IDF is “storming” the city of Hebron in the West Bank. The Hamas-affiliated Shehab news agency and Al Jazeera report that IDF forces have stormed the city, with Shehab also reporting arrests. The Guardian has not verified these reports independently.

“Israeli occupation forces storm the city of Hebron in the south of the West Bank and launch a campaign of raids and arrests,” Al Jazeera reports.


The AP has this recent report from the West Bank:

When Israeli warplanes swooped over the Gaza Strip following Hamas militants’ deadly attack on southern Israel, Palestinians say a different kind of war took hold in the occupied West Bank.

Overnight, the territory was closed off. Towns were raided, curfews imposed, teenagers arrested, detainees beaten, and villages stormed by Jewish vigilantes.
With the world’s attention on Gaza and the humanitarian crisis there, the violence of war has also erupted in the West Bank. Israeli settler attacks have surged at an unprecedented rate, according to the United Nations. The escalation has spread fear, deepened despair, and robbed Palestinians of their livelihoods, their homes and, in some cases, their lives.

Before the Hamas assault, 2023 already was the deadliest year for Palestinians in the West Bank in over two decades, with 250 Palestinians killed by Israeli fire, most during military operations.

Over these six weeks of war, Israeli security forces have killed another 206 Palestinians, the Palestinian Health Ministry said, the result of a rise in army raids backed by airstrikes and Palestinian militant attacks.

 
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It looks like it's hanging to me. You can slow the video down.


Agreed. I can’t believe I watched this video so many times and didn’t see this. And nobody here corrected me lol.
 
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Eta: wait a minute, is the hostage’s lower right leg just hanging over the side, and not missing? (2:55 in video). Have my eyes been seeing this wrong the whole time?
Who could really think that hostages' limbs were cut off ??? :rolleyes:

The only case of amputation might have been injuries IMO.

But is seems, the leg is intact.
 
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Who could really think that hostages' limbs were cut off ??? :rolleyes:


Gee, maybe after the paramedic described the poor little girl who died alone near Kibbutz Be’eri after bleeding to death from her arm being cut off near the elbow.

The original post had said “hand,” but I think maybe it was translation and the paramedic gestured cut off point was near elbow, iirc. Whatever the case…

Video here:
 
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Inside West Bank district under harsh Israeli lockdown since Hamas attack​


Israeli soldiers walk past Fawaz Qafisha's house. The Palestinian residents are not allowed on the street.

Israeli soldiers walk past Fawaz Qafisha's house. The Palestinian residents are not allowed on the street.


Zleekhah Mohtaseb on a typical Palestinian balcony on Shuhada Street, caged in to protect against stones.

Zleekhah Mohtaseb on a typical Palestinian balcony on Shuhada Street, caged in to protect against stones.


Palestinian boys play football, in front of a checkpoint, just outside H2. Israel restricts movement in and out of the area.

Palestinian boys play football, in front of a checkpoint, just outside H2. Israel restricts movement in and out of the area.


 
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Gee, maybe after the paramedic described the poor little girl who died alone near Kibbutz after bleeding to death from her arm being cut off near the elbow.

Video upstream. The original post had said “hand,” but it was translation and the paramedic gestured cut off point was near elbow.
I'm talking about HOSTAGES.
Kept for exchange.
 
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Today, on #WorldChildrensDay, the world comes together to honor and advocate for the rights of children.On #October7massacre, Yahel, a sweet 3 years old girl was abducted by Hamas.Innocent young lives, both girls and boys, were brutally taken, some burned alive, others brutally kidnapped and held captive as hostages in Gaza.Today marks 44 days since the horrors of October 7th, yet these innocent children remain in the hands of brutal terrorists, their condition unknown.Across the globe, people are tearing down posters of missing children. On this #WorldChildrensDay, we implore you to take a moment and contemplate: What if it was your child?

 
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Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists were “camouflaged” in the dress of various kinds of medical helpers, and they even went as far as to use the emergency room for their activities, the interrogated Palestinian said.
 
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Who could really think that hostages' limbs were cut off ??? :rolleyes:

The only case of amputation might have been injuries IMO.

But is seems, the leg is intact.
There's this trick I used to play with a bent finger.

So, I saw the leg from that angle.

Also there just wasn't enough blood and gore for limb loss.
 
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There's this trick I used to play with a bent finger.

So, I saw the leg from that angle.

Also there just wasn't enough blood and gore for limb loss.
Yep.
Imagine doctors chopping off healthy limbs :rolleyes:

Ridiculous IMO.
 
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