Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #12

[PrairieWind]

Interesting and informative! The final question sums it up.
JMO

FADEL: So now what? The stated goal of this war, supported by the United States, is to get rid of Hamas. What happens after?

BACONI: The truth is that on October 7, something shattered that's not going to be put back together that easily. For Israeli Jews, it's clear that there is no security in Israel for its citizens unless the Palestinian question is dealt with. And for Palestinians, it's clear that even if Hamas is militarily weakened, their resistance will be ongoing until their rights are achieved. So I think the only thing that can get us out of this bloodshed is to finally reckon with this reality as a political problem, not a military one. Unfortunately, the leaders, especially the Western leaders - so the EU and the current administration - seem unable or unwilling to contend with their failures in getting us here.

Baconi sounds like just the same talking head that we have heard from Hamas for a generation. Its all the West's fault. Hamas can't be defeated, blah blah blah. But he is either being very disingenuous in this interview or he really doesn't understand or won't accept what is going on right now.

 

[Vern]

BREAKING: First images from Hamas terror tunnel built right below Gaza's Al Shifa hospital. Items found from Kibbutz Be’eri, site of Oct. 7 massacre, and IDF-issued weapon & helmet, indicating Hamas held hostages there.
@DrTedros isn't this a war crime? Report by @ItayBlumental

https://twitter.com/x/status/1727382838402601105

 

[JennieM]

Netanyahu says Red Cross can visit remaining Gaza hostages​

During that press conference, we also heard Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu say it's been agreed that humanitarian workers from the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) will be allowed to visit remaining hostages in Gaza.

"I expect the Red Cross to do its job, and to visit them all and to bring them the medication that they need," he said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67481139

 

[fred&edna]

Bringing forward for reference, iirc this is the video where he says some hostages were killed in strikes, “maybe around 60,” and some other stuff.

Trying to get information consolidated and handy so when this goes down and names are released…

* Note to self, is this also the video where he says US is to blame, “Who Else?”


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Marking:

He should still be in prison in the US (like his other terrorist business pals) or obliterated.

jmo

 

[Momoffourboys]

Bedrooms, toilets and reinforced concrete: we visited inside the Shifa tunnelshttps://bit.ly/3MXGNNL

https://twitter.com/x/status/1727392701136650737

From your link. Translated by Google. Title under photo.
Gazan citizens mark hearts for the soldiers (Photo: Yoav Zeyton)

 

[MyBelle]

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Netanyahu says Red Cross can visit remaining Gaza hostages​

During that press conference, we also heard Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu say it's been agreed that humanitarian workers from the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) will be allowed to visit remaining hostages in Gaza.

"I expect the Red Cross to do its job, and to visit them all and to bring them the medication that they need," he said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67481139

BBM. I missed that important detail the first time I read this! Excellent!

JMO

 

[fred&edna]

18:33

Hundreds of unidentified Palestinians buried in mass grave​

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More than 100 unidentified Palestinians have been buried in a mass grave in the southern Gaza city of Khan Younis.

"They were killed, and their families and relatives didn’t know about them. We don't know anyone of them." spokesman for the Hamas-run health ministry Bassam Dababesh told the Reuters news agency.

The dead, which include children, were killed in areas of Gaza's north, but are being buried in the south, a health ministry worker told the Reuters at the scene.

"They will be buried here in Khan Younis because we couldn't bury them in Gaza City," Hamad al-Najar said.

"We dug this mass grave for them to be buried in so our society would avoid the smells, decomposition and pollution," he said.

"These bodies and souls are being honoured by burying them in this grave - so their souls may rest and so they can meet their maker," he added.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67481139

Blame Hamas.

And, I doubt a majority of Palestinians would take the time to bury the Israeli dead. They would likely throw a bonfire party and celebrate.


jmo

 

[Momoffourboys]

The Israel Defense Forces exposes further parts of Hamas’s tunnel network under Shifa Hospital, publishing videos of additional entrances and underground hideout rooms.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1727386017328758951

 

[espirtu pampa]

The hostages' names to be released tomorrow have yet been given with their photo, haven't they ?

 

[Momoffourboys]

The hostages' names to be released tomorrow have yet been given with their photo, haven't they ?

I haven’t seen that. The Mossad just got a list about an hour ago. I will try to find it.

THE LIST WILL NOT BE MADE PUBLIC.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-reportedly-receives-names-of-hostages-slated-to-be-released-tomorrow/

 

[Momoffourboys]

A first look into Hamas’ underground city, underneath the Shifa Hospital complex:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1727425719754526791

 

[Momoffourboys]

This is a voice that must be heard.Palestinian activist Manar Al-Sharif says:"The people of Gaza are firsthand witnesses to the violence committed by Hamas against the citizens. The people of Gaza have felt for years that they are controlled by Hamas. They are tired. In 2017-2018 they went out to demonstrate with the aim of bringing down Hamas, but they were arrested and beaten.Before the rule of Hamas, during the period when Israel was present in the Gaza Strip, Palestinians in Gaza were working and interacting with the Israeli society more closely. They had more access to essential resources like food, water and electricity and their economic opportunities were more abundant than they are today.Under Hamas rule, everything (the money) that arrived in Gaza didn't reach the people. Before pointing fingers at Israel or the US, or any other country, I would blame the government who receive millions of dollars to aid the Palestinian people yet the Palestinian people are still in the same situation for 70 years"

https://twitter.com/x/status/1727408604179759190

 

[Dotta]

"Iran's chilling 'threat' to Israel:​

Regime warns flames of war will spread across the Middle East if Israeli truce with Hamas terror group is not extended."​

Iran warns war will spread if Israeli truce with Hamas not extended

If the truce between the Hamas militant group and Israel is not extended, the war will spread across the Middle East, Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian said.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Mex]

So in Israel is someone considered innocent until proven guilty? Or are they being detained “just because”. That would put a whole different spin on the situation, IMO.

I know nothing about the justice system in operation concerning the Palestinian prisoners held in Jerusalem.

Were they tried in civil courts or were they tried in military courts?

What legal representation was made available to them?

Another question which arises is about equality under the law.

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Dozens of ultra-Orthodox Jews marking the Purim holiday threw stones at police in Jerusalem on Sunday, as tensions persisted between authorities and the deeply-religious community that has been accused of repeatedly flouting coronavirus restrictions.

Police said residents of Jerusalem's mainly ultra-Orthodox Mea Shearim neighbourhood threw stones at officers who had cut down police effigies hanging from power lines.

"Police commissioner Yaakov Shabtai" was written on one effigy.

Some residents shouted "Nazis" at the officers, one AFP reporter said, while others threw liquid-filled bottles as well as rocks.

Ultra-Orthodox Jews, known in Israel as Haredim, have in recent months clashed repeatedly with police enforcing coronavirus restrictions on gatherings.

Video. Watch: South Korean DM visits US aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson

Video. In response to the launch, the South Korean government partially suspended the 2018 inter-Korean agreement and restored aerial surveillance in the area near the Military Demarcation Line.

www.euronews.com

These guys did more or less what the Palestinians did when protesting (for one I would be perturbed if a bottle containing an unknown liquid was launched in my direction).

IDF take stringent action against Palestinians sometimes shooting them - sometimes arresting them.
What happens to Orthodox Israelis who riot?

 

[Momoffourboys]

Breaking: The abductees will only be released on Friday.A message from Rabbi Tzachi Hanegbi: "Negotiations for the release of our abductees are progressing and continue all the time. The release will begin according to the original agreement between the parties, and not before Friday."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1727442372454498745

 

[PrairieWind]

"Iran's chilling 'threat' to Israel:​

Regime warns flames of war will spread across the Middle East if Israeli truce with Hamas terror group is not extended."​

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Iran warns war will spread if Israeli truce with Hamas not extended

If the truce between the Hamas militant group and Israel is not extended, the war will spread across the Middle East, Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian said.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Does Iran manufacture and export anything besides threats and war?

 

[justtrish]

Does Iran manufacture and export anything besides threats and war?

Terrorists

 

[Wishbone]

Israel-Hamas war live updates: No hostages will be released before Friday

Follow NBC News' coverage for live updates about the Israel-Hamas war: Hostage deal reached to pause fighting in Gaza.

www.nbcnews.com

Although initial reports indicated hostages held by Hamas may be released as soon as tomorrow morning, National Security Council Director Tzachi Hanegbi said releases won't start until Friday.

"The contacts on the release of our hostages are advancing and continuing constantly," Hanegbi said in a statement. "The start of the release will take place according to the original agreement between the sides, and not before Friday."

 

[JennieM]

10m ago
Despite reports that the release of hostages may not happen “before Friday”, Al Jazeera is reporting that the ceasefire is still expected to begin at 10am (8am GMT) on Thursday.

The outlet cites its correspondent as saying:

The Israeli media is reporting that there was some sort of delay, but they did not elaborate on the discussions, neither did the national security adviser. But we do know that this deal has passed, it will go through, there will be that tentative temporary ceasefire that will start around 10am tomorrow, local time.

Israel-Hamas war: son of senior Hezbollah lawmaker killed in strike on Lebanon border – as it happened

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www.theguardian.com

22:34

Government source tells me these are minor issues​

Orla Guerin
Reporting from Jerusalem

This is certainly a change at the 11th hour. Israel was gearing up for a hostage release as early as tomorrow morning.

There are conflicting reports here about what has caused the setback; some claims that Hamas has not ratified the ceasefire agreement.

Other reports say Hamas has not provided Israel with a list of the hostages who were to be released on the first day. And that mechanism is supposed to be part of the agreement.

An Israeli government source told me in the last half hour that they believed these were relatively minor issues which need to be ironed out, and that they would be ironed out on Thursday. That suggests that things would be back on track on Friday if that is the case.

But what we can say for certain is that this is an awful blow to the families. They’ve been waiting almost 50 days, hoping that tomorrow was finally going to bring a moment of hope.

Now once again they have to deal with uncertainty. And I think many of them will believe this deal is only happening when they see it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67481139

 

[JennieM]

21:13

Gaza facing child malnutrition crisis - Unicef boss​

Back to the situation in Gaza Strip itself now. The executive director of Unicef - the UN's agency for children - says the territory faces a crisis of "child wasting": a term used to describe the most life-threatening form of malnutrition.

In an article published in the New York Times today, Catherine Russell said Unicef was projecting that the rate of child wasting would increase 30% in the next few months - and there were already more than 7,000 cases before the events of 7 October. She added that these were conservative estimates, and the figure could rise as the conflict continued.

Severe wasting means even catching a common cold could be life threatening, Russell explained.

It's hoped that the hostage deal agreed by Israel and Hamas - following negotiations backed by Qatar and the US - will allow hundreds of lorries carrying aid to enter Gaza over four days.

Russell says to ensure Gaza's children remain healthy and stave off looming health issues, humanitarian partners must be permitted to deliver supplies after hostilities resume.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67481139