Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #5
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While I can't confirm this as Air Force 1, it is the same plane type.
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I'm not convinced that we can generalize and claim that Western Countries have superior education, especially if you group the first 25 countries together as being relatively equal. Alternatively, grouping the USA with the next 20 countries in the list puts the USA in the lower education level, similar to Qatar.
My point is that we should not assume that people from countries in the Middle East have inferior education systems.
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I have no idea what TV is like in Jordan, but would they have seen all the clips of Biden's speech?
Or maybe am just being naive and it was always going to come to this, even if the misfire explosion at the hospital had not happened?
I have no idea what TV is like in Jordan, but would they have seen all the clips of Biden's speech?
Or maybe am just being naive and it was always going to come to this, even if the misfire explosion at the hospital had not happened?
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I've been wondering if the "Arab world" is receiving any of the press releases from IDF or the US...
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Erroneous reports and some Members of Congress took the word of Hamas terrorists as truth following the horrific Al-Ahli Arab Hospital bombing. They should remove their posts, update their headlines, and remember not to trust terrorists who brutally murdered innocent civilians.
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Rocket sirens blare across Tel Aviv and central Israel
Minutes after AF1 took off
Minutes after AF1 took off
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Uh-oh.
Which side committed this heinous act, on purpose or accidental, is not what should be focused on. The lives lost, hurt, and the destruction of a Hospital trying to save lives, is the Tragedy here. The verbal BS/Lies thrown by both groups along the way will perhaps be found out later...Perhaps. We must focus on the Lives of those suffering and how to rescue them First!!14 min ago
Gaza hospital blast leaves hundreds dead as Israeli blockade cripples medical response. Here's the latest
From CNN's Jessie Yeung, Tara John and Zahid Mahmood,
Palestinian officials said hundreds were killed by a massive blast at a Gaza hospital on Tuesday, as humanitarian concerns mount over Israel’s deprivation of food, fuel and electricity to the enclave’s population.
Here are key things to know about today's developments:
The blast: Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital was sheltering thousands of displaced people when it was bombed Tuesday, the Palestinian Health Ministry said in a statement. Many victims are still under the rubble, it added.
Hamas, which controls the enclave, said more than 500 people were killed by the bombing. The Palestinian Health Ministry earlier said preliminary estimates indicate that between 200 to 300 people died in the attack.
Palestinian officials blamed ongoing Israeli airstrikes for the lethal incident. But the Israel Defense Forces has “categorically” denied any involvement in the hospital attack, blaming instead a “failed rocket launch” by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad group, a rival Islamist militant group in Gaza.
Impacted hospitals: Gaza has been under siege by Israel for more than a week, in response to the deadly incursion by Hamas, the Islamist militant group that controls the coastal enclave, home to 2.2 million people. Hospitals meanwhile are struggling to tend to the wounded across the territory, operating with shortages of electricity and water.
Israeli bombardment has killed at least 3,000 people, including 1,032 girls and 940 boys, and wounded 12,500 in Gaza, the Palestinian Ministry of Health said Tuesday. Casualties in Gaza over the past 10 days have now surpassed the number of those killed during the 51-day Gaza-Israel conflict in 2014.
While the IDF has said it does not target hospitals, the UN and Doctors Without Borders say Israeli airstrikes have struck medical facilities, including hospitals and ambulances.
Health services within Gaza are on the brink and food and water supplies are running low. Twenty out of 23 hospitals were offering partial services because fuel reserves are “almost totally depleted,” the UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) warned on Tuesday.
Closed crossing: Urgent calls for help are growing on both sides of a closed crossing as aid amasses on the Egyptian side of the border. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Tuesday said the the United States and Israel “have agreed to develop a plan that will enable humanitarian aid from donor nations and multilateral organizations to reach civilians in Gaza.”
But on the Egyptian side of the Rafah crossing, a miles long convoy of humanitarian assistance awaiting entry into Gaza, Egyptian Foreign Minister Sameh Shoukry told CNN that “until now, there is no safe passage that has been granted” as they do not “have any authorization or clear, secure routes for those convoys to be able to enter safely and without any possibility of their being targeted."
Read more about the conflict.
Live updates: Israel-Hamas war rages as crisis in Gaza deepens
US President Joe Biden will visit Israel on Wednesday as he seeks to demonstrate staunch support for the country while also pressing for ways to ease humanitarian suffering in Gaza. Follow here for the latest.edition.cnn.com
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just having a very cursory - 60 second - look at Jordan on wikipedia
inconclusive
it says
The report added "the Arab Spring and the Syrian conflict have led the authorities to tighten their grip on the media and, in particular, the Internet, despite an outcry from civil society"
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The Families of Israelis Held Hostage by Hamas Speak Out
The Stories of Israelis Taken Hostage
The families of those held by Hamas in Gaza tell of trauma, fear and the search for hope.
I find it useful to look at Al Jezeera for an English language taste of what might be broadcasting to people in Arab countries. Note: this is not a good idea for anyone who can't tolerate that some people see things differently than they do.
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With today's technology, I am sure US satellites captured the incident at the Gaza hospital. It cannot be otherwise. Whether the US can reveal the imagery depends on whether sharing it can reveal information on capabilities that it needs to protect.
What this incident shows is the continuing impossibility of negotiating peace. If the Arab world cannot accept any facts that reflect badly on Hamas, how can it be a partner for fair and reasonable peace negotiations?
What this incident shows is the continuing impossibility of negotiating peace. If the Arab world cannot accept any facts that reflect badly on Hamas, how can it be a partner for fair and reasonable peace negotiations?
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A total of nine rockets fired from Lebanese territory crossed into northern Israel on Wednesday, the Israel Defense Forces said in a statement.
Four of the rockets were intercepted by the IDF Aerial Defense Array, it said.
Sirens warning of possible incoming rockets sounded in northern Israel near the Lebanon border on Wednesday afternoon.
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9 rockets fired from Lebanon crossed into northern Israel on Wednesday, IDF says
From CNN’s Hadas GoldA total of nine rockets fired from Lebanese territory crossed into northern Israel on Wednesday, the Israel Defense Forces said in a statement.
Four of the rockets were intercepted by the IDF Aerial Defense Array, it said.
Sirens warning of possible incoming rockets sounded in northern Israel near the Lebanon border on Wednesday afternoon.
Earlier Wednesday, the IDF said anti-tank missiles were fired toward Israeli communities Manara and the Rosh HaNikra along the Lebanese border. Hezbollah said in a statement that it attacked an Israeli position just south of Manara.
Live updates: Israel-Hamas war rages as President Biden visits Tel Aviv
During a high-stakes trip to Israel, US President Joe Biden urged the region to seek peace and not to be "consumed" by rage as violence continues in the aftermath of Hamas' attacks and Israel's subsequent response. Follow here for live updates.
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The Israeli military is sharing "misleading disinformation" regarding the explosion on the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in Gaza, said Mustafa Barghouti, leader of the Palestinian National Initiative (PNI).
Barghouti is a former minister in a Palestinian unity government and a prominent and unaligned activist for Palestinian rights.
Barghouti said that the Israelis had “already threatened the hospital with evacuation” but the staff refused to leave because “it was impossible to transfer critical patients without them dying.”
“The (World Health Organization) has said that moving them would be a death sentence,” Barghouti said.
In a statement Saturday, the WHO said it "strongly condemns Israel's repeated orders for the evacuation of 22 hospitals treating more than 2000 inpatients in northern Gaza. The forced evacuation of patients and health workers will further worsen the current humanitarian and public health catastrophe."
CNN cannot independently confirm what caused the blast at the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital. Palestinian officials blame Israel for the explosion, but the Israel Defense Forces have rejected the allegation, accusing Islamic Jihad of conducting a “failed rocket launch”– a claim the Islamist militant group denies.
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Israel sharing "misleading disinformation" about hospital blast, Palestinian National Initiative leader says
From CNN’s Celine Alkhaldi and Abeer Salman in JerusalemThe Israeli military is sharing "misleading disinformation" regarding the explosion on the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in Gaza, said Mustafa Barghouti, leader of the Palestinian National Initiative (PNI).
Barghouti is a former minister in a Palestinian unity government and a prominent and unaligned activist for Palestinian rights.
Barghouti said that the Israelis had “already threatened the hospital with evacuation” but the staff refused to leave because “it was impossible to transfer critical patients without them dying.”
“The (World Health Organization) has said that moving them would be a death sentence,” Barghouti said.
In a statement Saturday, the WHO said it "strongly condemns Israel's repeated orders for the evacuation of 22 hospitals treating more than 2000 inpatients in northern Gaza. The forced evacuation of patients and health workers will further worsen the current humanitarian and public health catastrophe."
CNN cannot independently confirm what caused the blast at the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital. Palestinian officials blame Israel for the explosion, but the Israel Defense Forces have rejected the allegation, accusing Islamic Jihad of conducting a “failed rocket launch”– a claim the Islamist militant group denies.
Live updates: Israel-Hamas war rages as President Biden visits Tel Aviv
During a high-stakes trip to Israel, US President Joe Biden urged the region to seek peace and not to be "consumed" by rage as violence continues in the aftermath of Hamas' attacks and Israel's subsequent response. Follow here for live updates.
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Very true. Human lives are the most important.
The lies perpetuated caused a lot of aggression, anger and destruction all over the world. More reason to find the truth. In any situation, not just this one.
Incendiary comments/views help no one, and as we do not yet know the Truth, no US representative should comment/place blame. This will inflame an already on fire situation. Anyone in any government position should know better, and his comment should be removed.
Rep Josh Gottheimer
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Erroneous reports and some Members of Congress took the word of Hamas terrorists as truth following the horrific Al-Ahli Arab Hospital bombing. They should remove their posts, update their headlines, and remember not to trust terrorists who brutally murdered innocent civilians.
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The United States on Wednesday vetoed a United Nations Security Council resolution proposing a humanitarian pause for the delivery of aid to Gaza, with the American ambassador to the UN saying more time was needed for on-the-ground diplomacy to take place.
UN Human Rights Watch Director Louis Charbonneau condemned the US veto, which he said took place "at a time of unprecedented carnage."
"Hundreds of thousands of civilians in Gaza cannot wait any longer," Ambassador Sergio Franca Danese said.
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US vetoes UN Security Council resolution for humanitarian pause
From CNN's Richard Roth and Caitlin HuThe United States on Wednesday vetoed a United Nations Security Council resolution proposing a humanitarian pause for the delivery of aid to Gaza, with the American ambassador to the UN saying more time was needed for on-the-ground diplomacy to take place.
Thomas-Greenfield also said the US was disappointed that the resolution — which also called for the release of hostages and condemned terrorism and acts of violence against civilians — made no mention of Israel's right to self-defense.
UN Human Rights Watch Director Louis Charbonneau condemned the US veto, which he said took place "at a time of unprecedented carnage."
The UN ambassador for Brazil, the president of the Security Council this month, said in a statement after the US veto that "silence and inaction prevailed," adding he hoped "efforts by other actors will yield positive results."
"Hundreds of thousands of civilians in Gaza cannot wait any longer," Ambassador Sergio Franca Danese said.
Live updates: Israel-Hamas war rages as President Biden visits Tel Aviv
During a high-stakes trip to Israel, US President Joe Biden urged the region to seek peace and not to be "consumed" by rage as violence continues in the aftermath of Hamas' attacks and Israel's subsequent response. Follow here for live updates.
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Intermittent explosions were witnessed throughout the day on the Gaza side of the Rafah border crossing, according to a CNN stringer on the Egyptian side of the border.
A minor explosion was seen in the area between the Gazan and Egyptian sides of the crossing at roughly 4 p.m. local time in Egypt (9 a.m. ET). The cause is unclear.
An Egyptian military drone has been observed flying over the Egyptian side of the border, and what is believed to be an Israeli drone is flying on the other side of the crossing.
Egyptian volunteers gather in Rafah, Egypt, on Wednesday for a funeral prayer for those killed in the blast at the al-Ahli hospital in Gaza. Reuters
Aid convoy drivers and volunteers have been waiting at the Egyptian side of the Rafah crossing since the early hours of Tuesday morning. On Wednesday, they performed funeral prayers for the victims of the Gaza hospital blast near the crossing.
Remember: The Rafah border crossing with Egypt in the south of the Gaza Strip has been touted as the last hope for Gazans to escape, and many Palestinians have begun moving in its direction in anticipation. That crossing, however, is currently shut.
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Explosions observed near Rafah crossing on Egypt-Gaza border
From Asmaa Khalil in Rafah, EgyptIntermittent explosions were witnessed throughout the day on the Gaza side of the Rafah border crossing, according to a CNN stringer on the Egyptian side of the border.
A minor explosion was seen in the area between the Gazan and Egyptian sides of the crossing at roughly 4 p.m. local time in Egypt (9 a.m. ET). The cause is unclear.
An Egyptian military drone has been observed flying over the Egyptian side of the border, and what is believed to be an Israeli drone is flying on the other side of the crossing.
Aid convoy drivers and volunteers have been waiting at the Egyptian side of the Rafah crossing since the early hours of Tuesday morning. On Wednesday, they performed funeral prayers for the victims of the Gaza hospital blast near the crossing.
Remember: The Rafah border crossing with Egypt in the south of the Gaza Strip has been touted as the last hope for Gazans to escape, and many Palestinians have begun moving in its direction in anticipation. That crossing, however, is currently shut.
Live updates: Israel-Hamas war rages as President Biden visits Tel Aviv
During a high-stakes trip to Israel, US President Joe Biden urged the region to seek peace and not to be "consumed" by rage as violence continues in the aftermath of Hamas' attacks and Israel's subsequent response. Follow here for live updates.
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Moo...the release of aid and pled to move to the designated humanitarian aid site, is an attempt to clear the way for Bunker Busters. They must destroy the tunnels.
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