Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #5

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Even worse, funded by taxpayers (of course that's where the government funding comes from).

yes but it's not state-funded and it's funded directly by households, by people who watch TV
There is no advertising on any of the channels. No advert breaks
You don't need to be paying income tax as a criteria- don't need to be ' be a taxpayer'

Which nation are you in Sundog?
 
  • #423

Israeli doctor's plea to Biden: Treatment for Israeli children in Gaza​

"We have children in Gaza who are not receiving medical attention. No one has visited them, and we have not received any updates."​



I don't understand how being against bombing hospitals with children is considered "pro Hamas" and "Anti Semetic".
 
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8m ago

Summary of the day so far​

It’s nearly 10pm in Gaza City and Tel Aviv. Here’s where things stand:

  • The US has used its veto at the UN security council to block a resolutioncalling for Israel to allow humanitarian corridors into the Gaza Strip, a pause in the fighting and the lifting of an order for civilians to leave the north of the besieged enclave. The UK abstained.
  • Joe Biden has backed Israel’s stance on the devastating blast at a Gaza hospital during a one-day visit to Israel intended to mitigate the humanitarian impact of the Israel-Hamas conflict and prevent it escalating into a regional war. The US president said the evidence he had seen suggested it was “the other team” that was responsible for the explosion at al-Ahli Arab hospital.
  • The Gaza health ministry, run by Hamas, said the Gaza hospital blast killed 471 people and wounded more than 314. Tuesday’s explosion was blamed by Palestinian officials on an Israeli airstrike. Israel said it was caused by a failed rocket launch by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group, which denied blame.

[…]

 
  • #425
17 min ago

Displaced people in Gaza lack basic life necessities, says Hamas-run government​

From CNN’s Abeer Salman and AnneClaire Stapleton

More than one million people have been displaced in the Gaza Strip, including 600,000 people in northern Gaza, according to a statement from the Hamas-run government in Gaza.

The displaced people lack basic life necessities and face catastrophic living conditions due to the cessation of services by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) in northern parts of the enclave, the statement said.

“We demand that UNRWA resume its operations in the northern areas of Gaza and fulfill its responsibilities towards the displaced people in its designated school shelters,” the statement said.

On Tuesday, UNRWA released a status report stating that “an unknown number” of displaced people “remain in UNRWA schools in the north,” but said it was “no longer able to assist or protect” them.

The UNRWA report said: “Despite the Israeli Forces’ evacuation order, an unknown number of internally displaced remain in UNRWA schools in the north. UNRWA is no longer able to assist or protect the displaced in those areas and does not have information on their needs and conditions.”

The UNRWA report said that nearly 400,000 displaced people were sheltering in UNRWA installations “in the Middle Area, Khan Yunis and Rafah.” The organization’s logistics base in Rafah was hosting nearly 8,000 people and, “the numbers continue to increase,” the report said.

The statement released Wednesday by the authorities in Gaza also called for an “international investigation” into Tuesday’s deadly blast at the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in Gaza, repeating the Palestinian claim – denied by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) – that it was caused by an Israeli airstrike.

“We welcome the invitation of the President of the European Council for an international investigation into the Baptist [hospital] massacre, and we demand a thorough investigation into all the crimes committed by the occupation since the beginning of the aggression,” it read.

CNN cannot independently verify what caused the explosion at the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital.

The IDF claims it was due to a “failed rocket launch” by Islamic Jihad, while Palestinian officials have blamed Israel.

 
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yes but it's not state-funded and it's funded directly by households, by people who watch TV
There is no advertising on any of the channels. No advert breaks
You don't need to be paying income tax as a criteria- don't need to be ' be a taxpayer'

Which nation are you in Sundog?
Thank you for all your posts clarifying how the BBC works!
 
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40 min ago

United Nations will want to do its own investigation into deadly Gaza hospital blast, UN official says​

From CNN’s Ben Kirby

A senior United Nations official has called for a UN investigation into the circumstances surrounding the deadly blast at a Gaza hospital on Tuesday.

“The UN will certainly want to do its own investigation … And it should be done very soon and very quickly," UN Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinator Martin Griffiths told CNN’s Christiane Amanpour.
Hundreds of people were killed in the blast at the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in the center of Gaza City, according to the Palestinian Ministry of Health. Authorities in Gaza blamed Israel, while the country said its intelligence indicated the cause was a failed rocket launch by Islamic Jihad. The group has denied this.

The US currently believes Israel is "not responsible" for the blast, according to the National Security Council. CNN cannot independently confirm what caused the blast nor the extent of casualties.

Asked whether Israel’s evidence so far to support its denial of responsibility meant the matter was done, Griffiths said, “It’s not done for me, because I’m not in the business of judging human rights abuses and atrocities of that kind.”

A UN investigation might allow important lessons to be learned, he added, “to stop it happening to the next hospital, to the next school, to the next institution where people are fleeing.”

Griffiths also said the UN stands ready to provide humanitarian aid and called for airstrikes to cease in areas where access was needed.

“International humanitarian law forbids airstrikes on places of civilian objects, civilian infrastructure. … It’s the safety of aid, which is as important as its dependability. We can do it, because we have the aid, we have the people, we have the trucks, and we certainly have the will,” he said.


 
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Thank you for all your posts clarifying how the BBC works!
I don't want to derail the thread but it's everywhere on every SM platform right now.

Sky was smarter, they refused to publicly discuss their editorial policy on this.
 
  • #430
43 min ago

Jordan's foreign minister explains cancellation of summit with US President Biden​

From CNN's Hamdi Alkhshali

Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi told CNN the cancellation of a summit with US President Joe Biden was made in response to the deadly blast Tuesday at a Gaza hospital, saying the decision was aimed at creating a more favorable environment for addressing the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas.

“We had a thorough, long discussion with the Americans, and we came to the conclusion that the presidential card, the office of the president, is very important," Safadi said in an interview with CNN's Becky Anderson, highlighting the "key role" the US has in managing the crisis now and beyond.
"I think everybody reached the conclusion that it is better not to have the president under these circumstances, because what people were expecting was a decision to end the war. That decision was not obviously forthcoming,” he said.
Jordan and the US continue to work toward a solution for the region, Safadi added, saying that the "role of the US is just indispensable."

Safadi's comments come a day after the Tuesday blast at the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital. Following the blast, Jordan scrapped a planned summit with Biden and the leaders of Jordan, Egypt and the Palestinian Authority. A White House official told reporters that Biden, who traveled to Israel, would postpone his trip to Jordan after consulting with King Abdullah II.

Authorities in Gaza have blamed Israel for the hospital blast, while the Israel Defense Forces said its intelligence showed it was a “failed rocket launch” by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad group. The group denied the Israeli assertion.

The US currently believes Israel is "not responsible" for the blast, according to the National Security Council.

However, in his interview with CNN, Safadi reiterated Jordan's belief that Israel was responsible, saying:

“Everybody here believes that Israel is responsible for it. The Israeli army is saying it's not ... but to be honest, try and find anybody who's going to believe it in this part of the world."
He urged for an independent international investigation to establish the truth.

Safadi also emphasized the urgent need for a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, highlighting the rising casualties and economic impact. He welcomed the news of Israel's agreement to allow humanitarian aid into Gaza from Egypt as a potential step toward a ceasefire and stressed the importance of prioritizing peace over war.

“We're looking for a humanitarian corridor that will bring medicine, food, and other supplies to Gazans. We have a hospital operating in Gaza since 2009. Within a week, it will run out of supplies, and it will not be able to operate. So we haven't seen that happen. If it happens, that's a first step to minimize what is a war crime by denying people access to food and water,” he added.

 
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44m ago
Dharna Noor

Scores of people are gathering for a rally in Washington on Wednesday demanding US lawmakers pass a resolution to facilitate a ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas conflict.

“Ceasefire now,” the crowd chanted.

Speakers included Representatives Rashida Tlaib and Cori Bush, who introduced such a resolution in Congress.

At the rally, Jewish and Palestinian activists also called for an end to US military support for the Israeli state.

“We are here to say end the genocide in Gaza,” said Simha Toledano, a Jewish activist.

She said she was grieving both Israeli and Palestinian lives lost since the conflict began.

“Here is the truth as I know it: all human life is sacred,” she said.

Today, I say no genocide in my name … and no genocide in the name of our beloved dead. Let them rest in peace.
Mohammed Amer, a Palestinian American comedian, closed out the Wednesday’s rally for ceasefire with a plea for officials to see Palestinians’ humanity. He said:

I weep for every soul that has been caught in this crossfire.


 
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Palestinians in West Bank take to the streets​

Joel Gunter
Reporting from Jerusalem

Palestinians took to the streets in the occupied West Bank for a second day today to protest against Israel’s war against the militant group Hamas in the Gaza Strip.

Protesters had already clashed with the Palestinian Authority’s security forces in a number of cities on Tuesday night, following an explosion at a hospital in Gaza that health officials say killed at least 471 people.

At marches in Nablus and Ramallah on Tuesday, protesters chanted criticism of Israel, the US and the Fatah movement of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, which they accuse of collaborating with Israel.

Security forces in Ramallah fired tear gas and stun grenades into the crowds in response. The PA, which governs parts of the West Bank not under full Israeli control, has its headquarters in the city.

People who spoke to the BBC on Tuesday near Nablus said that violence against Palestinians had increased dramatically in the West Bank since Hamas launched a deadly assault on southern Israel from Gaza on 7 October.

Israeli human rights group B’Tselem says it has documented dozens of attacks by Israeli settlers, including several fatal shootings.

The UN meanwhile says that attacks by settlers have more than doubled in the period, from an average of three to eight incidents a day.

There are some 3 million Palestinians and 600,000 Israeli settlers living in the West Bank, which Israel occupied in the 1967 Middle East war.

Most of the international community considers the settlements illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.

 
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Biden gives clear warning to Netanyahu government​


Paul Adams
Diplomatic correspondent

During his visit to Israeli, President Joe Biden this afternoon attempted to address Palestinian - and wider Arab - scepticism about his approach to this desperate crisis.

He pledged $100m (£82.3m) in humanitarian assistance for the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.

Biden restated his administration’s commitment to peace between Israel and the Palestinians, allowing the two peoples to live in security and dignity.

The president also had pointed words of advice for Israel, as it plans its widely anticipated ground invasion.

Israel, he said, did not live by the rule of terrorists but by the rule of law. Israel, he said, needed to be clear about its objectives.

That required “an honest assessment about whether the path you’re on will achieve those objectives".

This was a clear warning to the Netanyahu government: don’t go too far.

 
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I don't understand how being against bombing hospitals with children is considered "pro Hamas" and "Anti Semetic".
The article you replied to does not mention either Pro Hamas or Anti Semitic.
 
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New mother missing after music festival confirmed dead​


Joel Gunter
Reporting from Jerusalem

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Celine Ben David Nagar pictured with her husband Ido and their baby daughter Ellie. (Image courtesy of Ido Nagar)

For more than a week, Ido Nagar clung to the desperate hope his wife, Celine Ben David Nagar, was alive and being held hostage by Hamas in Gaza.

But, Ido’s hopes were shattered last night when Israeli police told the family Celine's body had been found among the hundreds of dead recovered.

The family tell me they were notified last night at 19:30 local time and Celine was buried the same evening - in accordance with Jewish custom to bury the dead as soon as possible.

Celine had travelled down to the Supernova music festival on 7 October to celebrate her last day of maternity leave before returning to work.

Ido stayed at home to look after their six-month-old daughter, Ellie.

Celine was hiding in a bomb shelter in Sderot when the Hamas militants stormed it, but her body was not immediately found alongside others who had hidden there.

The sheer number of people killed by Hamas in southern Israel has created significant delays in the identification of the dead.

It means some Israeli families who believed their loved ones had been taken into Gaza are only now learning they were in fact killed in the initial attack.

Ido described his wife as an “amazing woman, a person surrounded by friends and love", as well as an "amazing mother".

“This was supposed to be her one last party to enjoy before she returned to work. We agreed that I would pick her up at midnight, but she never came home."

 
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Remains of missing Israeli mom of 2 identified, family says

The Israeli mother of two was at the music festival in south Israel celebrating her 40th birthday when she and others came under ambush from Hamas militants during the initial surprise attack. Her family tells us her body was unrecognizable and recovered in a field within 10 kilometers of the music festival.
 
  • #437
Unbelievable.
Maybe making rockets out of water irrigation pipes wasn't a good idea ? ( --if this is what happened, as well as using funds for weapons, instead of aid meant for the people of Gaza --my opinion only)
Who knew. *sarcasm intended*
And to think, for every failed rocket, innocent people have prob. died !!!!!!
Omo.
Eta : Link :

The arsenal often appears rudimentary.
One Hamas video shows rockets being made from disused water pipes. A rocket that hit Beersheba, 50 km (30 miles) from Gaza, tumbled on a road after failing to explode, CCTV footage showed.

Citing the same tracking data it used for Iron Dome interceptions, the Israeli military says that between 20% and
one-third of the Palestinians' rockets have fallen short within Gaza in the latest fighting, causing at least 17 civilian fatalities.


Emphasis mine.

The water shortage could have been a persistent problem even before Hamas' slaughter; but was exacerbated by Hamas themselves if they were using water pipes for other than their intended purpose ?
"Rudimentary" tells me (imo) 'cobbled together', in an unprofessional fashion.
Which is possibly while those people in the hospital were killed.
Unless it was a rocket from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard ?
Either way, the bombardment was meant for Israel but Israel's enemies hurt and killed their own people.

Second bolded speaks for itself, sadly.

The suffering caused by the leadership or elected gov't. of Gaza, Hamas, is staggering.
How much more suffering before the people of Palestine rise up against their elected leaders ?
Hoping they'll find the strength.
Omo.
 
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I'm confused. Yesterday weren't there reports that a hospital was hit with 300 to 500 casualties? Today we see pictures of a few burned cars in a parking lot.

1h ago
Satellite images show the aftermath of a blast at al-Ahli Arab hospital in Gaza, in which Palestinian health authorities said resulted in hundreds of people killed.

The Gaza health ministry, run by Hamas, has blamed an Israeli strike. The Israeli military produced evidence on Wednesday morning that it said showed the blast was the result of a rocket launched by the militant group Islamic Jihad misfiring. The group denied responsibility.

The aftermath of a blast at Al-Ahli hospital and the surrounding area in Gaza City.

The aftermath of a blast at al-Ahli hospital and the surrounding area in Gaza City. Photograph: Satellite image ©2023 Maxar Tech/AFP/Getty Images


This handout satellite picture courtesy of Maxar Technologies taken on Wednesday, shows the aftermath of a blast at Al-Ahli hospital and the surrounding area in Gaza City.

This handout satellite picture courtesy of Maxar Technologies, taken on Wednesday, shows the aftermath of a blast at al-Ahli hospital and the surrounding area in Gaza City. Photograph: Satellite image ©2023 Maxar Tech/AFP/Getty Images


 
  • #439
Yes those were the days - I have the impression that the news media formerly tried to help people understand the world, whereas now the priority is to shock and appall them, and stir up controversy - in order to keep people glued to their screens 24/7.

JMO
Not all U.S. media are trying to stir up controversy. Last night, NBC's Lestor Holt specifically used the word, "propaganda" and ABC's Dan Abrams has called out the media who continue to stir it up.

JMO

 
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1h ago
Drone footage shows the aftermath of an apparent Israeli airstrike on the Nuseirat refugee camp in central Gaza.

The footage showed whole buildings reduced to rubble and debris, as well as a bakery that was targeted in the same area.

At least four people died after the strike on the bakery ignited a fire, witnesses told the AP.

Gaza: drone footage shows aftermath of strike on Nuseirat refugee camp – video

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Gaza: drone footage shows aftermath of strike on Nuseirat refugee camp – video

[Video at link.]

 
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