Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #8

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10:16 pm

ICC prosecutor visits Rafah, says institution probing Hamas attack, Israeli actions

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“We have active investigations ongoing in relation to the crimes allegedly committed in Israel on 7th October, and also in relation to Gaza and the West Bank, and our jurisdiction goes back to 2014,” says Khan in a statement made at the Rafah crossing on the Egypt-Gaza border.

The ICC prosecutor evokes the Holocaust and the Second World War in explaining the reason for his mission to the region, and says the ICC will work professionally to “separate allegation from fact,” and examine all relevant evidence.

“This is a moment of objectivity, a moment of quiet reflection and it needs to be a moment in which the international community and the international architecture built on the rubble of the World War II, the terrible gas chambers and the Holocaust, the razing of cities throughout Europe, [which] was meant to create institutions that would ensure never again would we see abominations where people could be targeted for their race, religion, culture, where they come from or what passport they hold,” says Khan.

“Those promises need to be fulfilled.”

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  • #502
That's true. But, what are these people afraid of exactly?
Fear and hate often go together. They've been indoctrinated from the cradle-- taught from a very young age that Israel (by extention all Jews) has done/will do awful things to them or has allowed/will allow awful things to happen to them. The best way to fight it is to beat them at their own game. Kill the beast before it kills you. This is my interpretation.
 
  • #503
Gaza has enough fuel to circumnavigate the globe in a Boeing 747.

Don’t let anyone pretend Gaza doesn’t have fuel just because its government prefers to use it for terror.

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  • #504
IDF releases photos showing ground forces operating in the Gaza Strip.

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Zip ties and electrical chords used to tie victims before they were murdered. Below are just a few of the horrific images documenting the brutality of Hamas terrorists on October 7th. Some of these bodies are still unidentifiable.
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Those poor people
 
  • #505
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1718684395354116347?s=20

Muslims within the Republic of Dagestan in Southwestern Russia are currently Storming the International Airport in the Region in order to reportedly “Kill Israelis and Jews” after Rumors began that an Israeli Aircraft was preparing to land at the Airport; this has been going in for the last several hours, with Pro-Hamas Supports having Stormed a number of Hotels and other Public Locations across the Region on the Hunt for Israelis.
 
  • #506
12min ago

Report: Shin Bet chief warns West Bank could erupt, given rise in settler violence

Shin Bet head Ronen Bar has warned the war cabinet and the defense establishment has warned the wider cabinet of “fears about an eruption” of violence in the West Bank, Channel 12 reports.

“The specific warning notes a rise in violence by settlers [and] incidents between settlers and Palestinians that result in the deaths of Palestinians.”
More from above link:
About settlers

"It says the US and EU are also warning that the
West Bank is at a boiling point.

'These incidents are likely to set the area alight' and harm the war effort against Hamas, the report quotes Israeli sources as saying.

It says some Israeli 'decision-makers' are urging far-right ministers
'to take responsibility and calm things down'.”

Oh well....:mad:
No surprise here.

 
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  • #507
It's a Russian carrier.

Flight apparently originated in Tel Aviv.

People are crazy.....

Keep in mind, this is in Chechnya. People are treated like second class citizens over there. Maybe this is displaced aggression at Russia??? Who knows???


This is not Chechnya but Dagestan. Different republics/countries.

In general, if you look at the map of the former Soviet Union, you see many pieces that are ethnically populated by one group but politically belong to another one (e.g. Nagorno-Karabakh). Some are populated by the same ethnicity but divided religiously (Northern and Southern Ossetia). I think that when the Bolsheviks drew the borders of the republics, they foresaw the possibility of seceding, and made it maximally difficult. Remember, in the Soviet Union, the republics had the right of “self-determination up to seceding”, so to make the latter practically impossible, “divide and conquer” principle was widely used. It tells now. In general, just think, Kabardino-Balkaria, Checheno-Ingushetia. Here are many republics/geographical entities populated by different ethnicities. There is, and will be, a lot of interethnic tensions. If you add to it any “foreign” group, Jews, or Russians, or Armenians, things might turn ugly at any point. It is Islamic religion but less so than in the rest of the world, after all, my generation was raised in atheism, and the abandon with which everyone turned to religion in the 1990es only underscores underlying secularity, IMHO. Rather, it is very old, convoluted history that I am just starting to discover. (Happy to post more, but “Russian” “Caucasus mountains” is a totally unique area; it was colonized in the time of Nicholas I, after 1825, and populated by all kinds of different people/peoples, so nothing is easy or easily understood there.)
 
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Fear and hate often go together. They've been indoctrinated from the cradle-- taught from a very young age that Israel (by extention all Jews) has done/will do awful things to them or has allowed/will allow awful things to happen to them. The best way to fight it is to beat them at their own game. Kill the beast before it kills you. This is my interpretation.

Let us hope the “beast” is not like the mythical hydra— cut off one head and two more shall grow in its’ place.

We’re not talking about rational minds here. My opinion only.
 
  • #510
Israel-Hamas war live updates: Thousands break into Gaza aid warehouse (nbcnews.com)
8m ago / 1:38 PM PDT

Palestinians ‘didn’t deserve’ to die but Israel has ‘a right to’ beat Hamas, NSA Sullivan says​

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“There have been deaths of thousands of Palestinian civilians in this conflict, and that is an absolute tragedy,” Sullivan said on ABC News’ “This Week.” “Those people did not deserve to die. Those people deserved to live lives of peace and sanctity and dignity.”

In an interview on CBS’ “Face the Nation,” Sullivan was asked about the Biden administration’s message after Secretary of State Antony Blinken told the U.N. that a pause in Israel’s heavy bombardment must be considered amid calls for at least a humanitarian pause.

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“We have taken the position that Israel has a right to defend itself against terrorist attacks,” Sullivan added. “That is different from what Secretary Blinken spoke about, which was a humanitarian pause, a pause in the fighting, for example, so that there’s a period of time where there can be safe passage of hostages.”
 
  • #511
14min ago

Gallant: If Hamas wanted an ‘all for all’ prisoner swap it’d happen; it doesn’t

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“The stories published by Hamas are part of their psychological games … Hamas is cynically using those who are dear to us — they understand the pain and the pressure,” Gallant told relatives of some of the 239 hostages held by Hamas in the Gaza Strip, according to the statement.

According to a recording from the meeting broadcast by Channel 12, Gallant told the families that an “everybody for everybody” prisoner swap (all Israeli hostages for all Hamas prisoners) is not doable.

“If it were that simple [to do a swap] then it would not be a problem,” Gallant said. “If those were the terms it would happen tomorrow morning. Those aren’t the terms.”

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  • #512
Live updates: Israel-Hamas war has entered a new stage, Netanyahu says (cnn.com)
27 min ago

US Marine rapid response force moves toward eastern Mediterranean, sources say​

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The 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit, aboard the USS Bataan amphibious assault ship, was operating in the waters of the Middle East in recent weeks, but it began making its way toward the Suez Canal late last week, the officials said.

The Bataan is currently in the Red Sea and is expected to pass into the eastern Mediterranean soon, one official said.

The move will place the Marine unit closer to Lebanon and Israel as the US is warning citizens to leave Lebanon. One of the typical roles of a Marine Expeditionary Unit is to help civilians evacuate.

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UN secretary-general calls for leaders to "step back from the brink." Here's the latest diplomatic news​

From CNN Staff

United Nations Secretary-General António Guterres said he urged “all those with responsibility to step back from the brink” while speaking about the Israel-Gaza conflict on Sunday.

Guterres said he will “continue to insist on the immediate and unconditional release of all the hostages in Gaza,” and reiterated his “appeal for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire.”

“I repeat my utter condemnation of the appalling attacks perpetrated by Hamas,” Guterres echoed. “There is no justification, ever, for the killing, injuring and abduction of civilians.”

Guterres continued by saying the situation in Gaza was “growing more desperate by the hours” and called for all parties to respect their obligations under international humanitarian law.

“I regret that instead of a critically needed humanitarian pause supported by the international community, Israel has intensified its military operations,” he said.

Here's what else top diplomats and world leaders are doing on the diplomatic front Sunday:

French President Emmanuel Macron said 17 metric tonnes of humanitarian freight arrived in Egypt from France on Sunday.

“We are continuing our efforts by air and sea. Together, in solidarity, alongside Egypt and the Red Crescent,” Macron posted on X, formerly Twitter.

He also reiterated a call for a humanitarian truce for Gaza.

Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre said he believes Israel has crossed the line regarding international law while speaking to Norwegian state broadcaster NRK on Sunday.

“They (Israelis) have the right to self-defense, and I recognize that defending oneself against warfare from such a densely populated area as Gaza is very demanding. And there are still rockets coming from Gaza towards Israel, we condemn that,” Støre said. “International law also states that it must be proportionate, civilians must be taken into account, humanitarian law is very clear of that, and I believe that that line has now been far crossed.”
Støre said he was specifically referring to Israeli “attacks coming from the air against civilian areas where people have nowhere to hide.”

US President Joe Biden spoke with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi Sunday about the need for the continued flow of aid into Gaza and stressed the importance of protecting civilians lives, according to the White House.

In the call with Netanyahu, Biden reiterated his support for Israel to defend itself but said Israel needs to do so "in a manner consistent with international humanitarian law that prioritizes the protection of civilians." He also called for significantly increasing the flow of humanitarian assistance into Gaza and discussed ongoing efforts to locate hostages still held by Hamas.

 
  • #515
The Russian Federal Air Transport Agency has announced that Makhachkala International Airport in the Republic of Dagestan will remain Closed until at least November 6th due to “Civil Unrest” in the Region.

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Significant Clashes are still ongoing between Russian Security Forces and Rioters at Makhachkala International Airport in Dagestan, with Rioters seen throwing Rocks and other Debris while there are reports that Tear Gas and Rubber Bullets have now been used by Security Forces.
 
  • #516
Israel-Hamas war live updates: Thousands break into Gaza aid warehouse (nbcnews.com)
2m ago / 2:00 PM PDT

Gaza receives largest aid shipment since the war began​

The Associated Press

Nearly three dozen trucks entered Gaza on Sunday in the largest aid convoy since the war between Israel and Hamas began, but humanitarian workers said the assistance still fell desperately short of needs after thousands of people broke into warehouses to take flour and basic hygiene products.

Israel has allowed only a trickle of aid to enter. On Sunday, 33 trucks of aid entered the only border crossing from Egypt, a spokesperson at the Rafah crossing, Wael Abo Omar, told The Associated Press.
 
  • #517
From Medusa. Dagestanians in Makhachkala airport throw stones at police.
This is how revolutions start in Russia, btw. With angry crowds and a critical mass of people knowing how to use guns which happens after wars. The reason is unimportant. (And - it is the last thing needed now, so I hope this riot will be clashed).

 
  • #518
The Russian Federal Air Transport Agency has announced that Makhachkala International Airport in the Republic of Dagestan will remain Closed until at least November 6th due to “Civil Unrest” in the Region.

18 minutes ago:

Significant Clashes are still ongoing between Russian Security Forces and Rioters at Makhachkala International Airport in Dagestan, with Rioters seen throwing Rocks and other Debris while there are reports that Tear Gas and Rubber Bullets have now been used by Security Forces.


The lynch mob which stormed the airport in Dagestan, Russia to search for Jewish passengers have now stopped a bus full of kids in front of the airportThey suspect that the children are Israeli and demand to check everyone's passports


 
  • #519
"Israel has allowed only a trickle of aid to enter."

How could Israel possibly do that as aid comes in through the Rafah crossing ?
 
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"Fabric of society is starting to break down" in Gaza, UN agency says​


The "fabric of society" in Gaza is starting to break down, an official from the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) told CNN — — echoing warnings Sunday of a breakdown in civil order.

Thomas White, director of Affairs for Gaza for UNRWA, spoke about how people were looting logistic and aid warehouses in Gaza.

"We have been warning for a couple days now, that if essential public services and humanitarian aid would not be provided to the population in a sustained way we would see a breakdown in civil order. What we are seeing right now is the first stages of that, and that some of our logistic bases were looted by hundreds of young men. It's a very worrying sign that the fabric of society is starting to break down," White explained.

White said he was concerned for the people of Gaza but also for the UNRWA's ability to maintain operations there. He called for a humanitarian ceasefire, citing the urgent need “get the assistance that people need and stabilize society in Gaza."

 
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