Jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND #38 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[Mrs G Norris]

Another creepy thing about the 'smile and say cheese' video .. the line 'What would Travis do?' ... Girl, are you still trying to parrot everything you'd think Travis would do, now that he is no longer here to actually mimic?

Mirroring - Imitating or copying another person's characteristics, behaviors or traits.

Description:

Mirroring occurs when people who suffer from personality disorders have a vacant or distorted self-image, which can manifest itself as an imitation of the other person's speech, mannerisms, behaviors, dress style, purchase preferences, daily habits etc.

Sometimes the person doing the mirroring can begin to believe they actually are the other person to the extent that they might call themselves by their name, claim to be them or have elements of the other person's life such as relationships, past experiences, career or family history attributed to them. In some cases they may even claim to be the other person.

Mirroring is often a manifestation of a form of Dissociation, where a person's strong feelings create "facts" which are less than true.

A dramatic case of mirroring is portrayed in the movie Single White Female, in which the character Hedra Carlson (played by Jennifer Jason Leigh) begins to imitate her new room-mate Allie in the way she looks, dresses and behaves, imitating her haircut, wearing her clothes and ultimately seducing Allie's boyfriend.

Mirroring can occur among people who suffer from Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD), Histrionic Personality Disorder (HPD), Dependent Personality Disorder (DPD), Schizotypal Personality DIsorder, Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD) and Paranoid Personality Disorder (PPD).

http://outofthefog.net/CommonBehaviors/Mirroring.html

 

[katiecoolady]

"Blame Travis" seems to be a safe bet for anything she needs to explain.

Travis said, "OK, now shoot me in the head while I'm in the shower. It'll be hot. Be sure to get pictures." :jail:

"Travis was so abusive he taunted me to commit suicide. He was pushing the gun at my head, but his wet hand slipped so it went back and hit him instead. Then I panicked so had to stab him. See? Self defense"

I just made my own self nauseous even trying to get in her evil mind.

 

[shantastic]

AZLawyer..Or anyone else who could help...

It seems to me the Prosecution was trying to avoid any discussion of stalking and tire slashing earlier in the trial. I'm wondering what the reasoning may have been for this. Are they trying to avoid a mistrial or opening the door to other evidence? This kind of confuses me. Thanks.

I agree. That's what my earlier posts were about. Ultimately, it's the evidence put in front of the jury that matters. I wasn't hearing JM say "We know JA carries a knife around at all times because etc...". Every once in a while a little something gets slipped in about tire slashing but they aren't making a concrete connection to JA. Hopefully, JA has opened the door to more questioning on the psycho stalker aspect after her endless droning on. IMO

 

[Really?]

During this lull, I am re-watching and rereading things. This video I really think should be the last thing the jurors see right after being shown every one of his autopsy photos and the clip of her saying, "no jury will convict me because I am innocent."

To anyone here that still doesn't believe it has been proven that Jodi Arias is a psychopath, I say tell that to me after you watch this video- knowing exactly what she did to Travis!

This is from our very own talented TigerBalm:

Jodi Arias - Clip From 2008 Jail Interview - On Why She Is Smiling In Her Mugshot - YouTube

WOW :what:

sweet dreams tonight,


:waitasec:thanks....LOL:floorlaugh:

 

[panthera]

"I have done many things that I find shameful, but this isn't one of them."- Jodi Arias on being innocent of Travis murder.

This I believe.
(snipped for space)

Perfect line for Martinez to quote during his argument to impose the DP......

MOO

 

[lil_buddy]

Wow, I wonder what she does find "shameful". Hmmm...let's see. Nope, can't think of a one she'd cop to. Maybe not doing a great enough job dying her hair? I mean I did some some blond still peeking through the brunette. But guess that's the risk you take when you dye your hair mid road trip.

But yeah, she isn't ashamed of slaughtering Travis. She's proud of it. :furious:

ooh I have one.
She's ashamed of saying the word 'penis' aloud.

 

[LambChop]

She 's going to say Travis demanded zhe take flattering photos of himself in the shower with his shirt off posing with a gun and a knfe. Since he just bought the $1500 camera, he told her to bring the gun and knife. She dropped tha camera before they got the gun/knife photos, he grabbed her by the hair and she reached down and felt the gun and just grabbed it.


But add a thousand more details to make it less concise and understandable.

I do not think Travis would have done that because a few weeks before he expressed to his friends that if he did not show up at church he would probably be dead. He had concerns, real concerns and that just would not be believable. Also why would she need to report the gun was stolen???? Defense will never get past what she was doing 48 hours prior to the crime. She's locked into it. Each day she is on the stand and testifying I can see JM's list of rebuttal witnesses getting longer and longer. I would not want to face JM. Jodi is no match for him. jmo

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I think she's proud of slaughtering Travis too .. I think that's why the girl keeps slipping .. Oh man, wouldn't you just love it if we get one of those 'you can't handle the truth' moments .. I'll be watching her testimony in cross over and over looking for little hints she gives out about what really happened that day.

Basically I think the self defence thing is metaphorically what happened in her mind, Travis had the ultimate upper hand in a relationship where she wanted to marry him and he was never going to, but could use her as a three hole wonder whenever he felt like it .. she trumped that upper hand by murdering him just after he'd done just that.

 

[paperwing]

Lisa Bloom article:

Needless to say, I couldn't agree more.

http://nakedlaw.avvo.com/lisa-bloom/jodi-arias-faux-domestic-violence-victim.html

Cited from: Jodi Arias: Faux Domestic Violence Victim? | NakedLaw by Avvo.com
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ITA. But what troubles me further is how far behind the US is with legislation dealing with psychological abuse - on any level.
Several countries have laws regarding this, (Canada and France are two I think).

I was astounded that everything that was done to my children and myself... was fully LEGAL, even though the only thing I can compare it to is torture. Ongoing, cumulative torture.

JA is trying to use so-called physical AND emotional abuse... which some people do in order to get revenge during divorce - making it just that much harder for true victims to receive adequate, meaningful recourse. If falsely reporting abuse and/or falsifying evidence about imaginary abuse - isn't illegal and subject to jail time - then it needs to be. Needless to say I believe JA is doing this exactly, undermining every man and woman who is being or has been abused. I'm livid.

All forms of real abuse are horrific - and there should be legislation and a national acknowledgment at the very least that is a very serious, destructive, real issue - it destroys lives in an instant or over time, little by little. Stress, PTSD, etc. cause health issues and can cut one's life short. A bullet, knife or fist is simply quicker, but in my view the length of time it takes to injure (or worse) someone is irrelevant. The law disagrees, apparently.

Crimes of abuse are far worse (imv) than drug taking, car theft, property crimes, bar brawls, tax evasion - you name it. Yet these monsters get away scott free. It's wrong. Yet as a nation, we're somewhat cavalier about it, it seems... unless the abuse is very graphic and very dramatic.

Sadly - and I really hate to say this - since it's predominately thought of as affecting only women, it's just not that much of a pressing issue, apparently. After all, women still make a fraction of what men make for the same work... know what that adds up to in a career? VAWA? Eh, not going to deal with the sovereign nations within our borders, so rapists, make sure you rape within rez borders... (hope they've changed that by now).

And despite (to my shock and disgust) some seem to lay some or even equal blame with victims who (to their personal standards) do not do enough or work hard enough to stop, get out, move on, heal, get "back to normal."

It is NeverNeverNeverEver!! - the victim's fault. If they commit crimes or abuse themselves, then they own that, obviously. But the victim is not to blame for what the abuser does or has done to them - which can alter and change them - for life. It doesn't help that some may care to impose a subjective timeline on when it's supposed to be "over" without understanding how few tools and real-life support systems there are. Things that could actually help some rather than simply manage the brokenness... Different people have different reactions, coping abilities, etc. Do we blame people allergic to bees or peanuts for not bucking up, just act like everyone else? Do we blame people for returning home after war and not being able to cope? Yeah, that one we actually do. Inexcusable. This mentality is like a cancer borne of ignorance and hubris.

Some get their lives back, though, thank Dog, and that is a miraculous, glorious thing. Some don't. Some sort of get their lives back, but it's not the same. It's a different world. The invisible scars are as permanent as the visible ones.

Sorry this is long and rambling... it is very painful to hear/see JA do what she's doing. Of course I have no empirical proof of this, but I think those who have been/are being abused - physically or psychologically or any way - are far more attuned to 'smelling a rat' than maybe someone who has not personally experienced this - either themselves or through a loved one. Pure speculation on my part, but my radar went up instantly (not to say that people who haven't been abused didn't have theirs go up too!) It's just visceral on some level.

I'm sorry. It's one of those days - because my daughter is coming Monday, a lot of stuff is surfacing in managing her trip. It never ends with him.

 

[StephanieHartPI]

I am eager to hear her explanation of such deadly weapons that trip. Even when she has given us more detail than we care to hear about her life, and the "abuse" she has never described the abuse as "bad" or that she was ever really injured.

She really seemed to indicate her mom's wooden spoon was bad. Travis, not so bad.

I don't see any statement that she was in fear of her life ever. So now, you are officially broken up, he has someone, you have someone and you surprise him with a trip to AZ, but before leaving your house you bring a gun and a knife?

Why now? He back handed you, but not really and didn't hurt. He shoved you, but not as hard as your dad.

None of these incidents rise to the level any person would suddenly be in fear for their life.

Oh wait, he bent her finger.

So now they are officially not a couple.. why bring the weapons now?

Really...just to kill him. There is no other earthly reason you would bring them if you did not plan his murder.

 

[Morning Glory]

It will involve dangerous sex with a knife and a gun. It will go horribly wrong, and Eiss Arias will explain that, in effect, due to her great love for Travis and her own personal selflessness, she was forced to act on his behalf, and at his request, in order to hasten his 'accidental' demise.

You know you're on to something there. I was wondering how she could explain the weapons. Blame them on Travis of course! He demanded she steal that gun and bring it with her! To use as a "prop" for the "photo shoots".

It's either that or she intended to commit suicide in front of him.

Or both.

Really insightful potential scenarios, thank you.

I imagine that the "I was going to commit suicide but Travis tried to stop me and I killed him on accident" would have been a better defense, but it wouldn't hold up with the savagery displayed on Travis afterwords.

This woman is so nuts and intent on making herself a heroic victim even to the point where it so severely strains credulity, I wouldn't be surprised if she tried to claim *SHE* got rid of the or evidence of pedophilia to "protect his family."

 

[StephanieHartPI]

(um, in her deluded mind, I swear I think she still thinks she will get back together with him) even now

 

[shantastic]

There was one other person besides Travis who had her tires slashed and had received a threatening email as well- Mimi.

I think Mimi was next on JA list of intended murder victims.

Wasn't it Lisa that had her tires slashed and got that strange email? IIRC

 

[TexMex]

One of the big reasons I feel the gun shot was last is she needed him to feel 'her' pain with each stab of the knife. To shoot first and possibly kill immediately would not allow for him to experience that. No, she planned for him to suffer.
Justice for Travis!!

MOO

Wow meow...I agree. From not kissing her after their car encounter, to not being "emotionally present" for hotel sex. For every time he didn't "claim her" by grabbing her butt, for the "" remark and for every time he "used" her for sex while intending to find a "nice" Morman girl to marry...that's why Travis had to die that kind of painful, personal death. He died because Jodi answered the question her lawyer keeps asking her these past few days, "How did that make you FEEL, Jodi?"

 

[GobBluth]

There was a red rental car she was to use to leave her grandparents house at the time of her arrest.

LE obtained a search warrant and recovered boxes of books and two knives. They did not find another gun at that time. Later, they traced the rental car and located, ostensibly on information from her mother, a 9mm handgun which was hidden in the rental car but which LE did not find upon executing the initial, warranted search. I do not know what she was going to do with them.

They were probably intended as lines of defense from the make-believe ninjas.

Or to take out someone that might testify against her ...

Or...to take out one of TA's former romantic interests. Those girls must be frightened beyond belief for their lives should JA ever be released from jail. They are lucky to be alive, IMO.

 

[minor4th]

To my recollection, there were maybe two photos, definitely without the flash (orangey colored), that are blurry and he looks surprised. I have done photography many moons ago, and more recently with digital cameras. I have one with a flip out screen (I do not believe his was that type though), because if I see a bird in our backyard, I will stand behind the door and can see the picture on the lens - the bird doesn't see me and get spooked and leave. If she held the camera out and snapped the pictures......who knows.

I mean, we can say why did she take the pictures and what for, but then we should also ask why in the world would someone DO this to another human!???! I truly believe someone with a soul or ounce of morality, would not be able to live long with what they've done. Taking a life would be draining on a person.

There were several without the flash - I'd say most of them. Who knows why though?

 

[LambChop]

(um, in her deluded mind, I swear I think she still thinks she will get back together with him) even now

She does refer to him as if he is still living. She will say, "yes, he will do that" in lieu of "yes, he did do that". Just an example. But I have noticed in those tapes she speaks as if he is still alive. jmo

 

[Really?]

I agree. That's what my earlier posts were about. Ultimately, it's the evidence put in front of the jury that matters. I wasn't hearing JM say "We know JA carries a knife around at all times because etc...". Every once in a while a little something gets slipped in about tire slashing but they aren't making a concrete connection to JA. Hopefully, JA has opened the door to more questioning on the psycho stalker aspect after her endless droning on. IMO

IMO nobody can prove JA did the tire slashing.....why bring it up in trial..?

IMO JM, after everything we all (the whole world) have seen of Miss Arias......there is no need to go there.

:twocents:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Whatever Jodi's tale is going to be it is going to be way out there and unbelievable just like we have heard for the past six days when she has testified.

What we can all be assured of it is going to all be Travis' fault. She is going to lie and say he told her to come see him just like she lied when she said he wanted her to record the sex tape.

We will never know the truth of what happened that day in that bathroom. Jodi cant handle the truth and will never place blame where it truly should be.......totally with JA.

She has droned on for 6 days and she blames anyone and everyone for everything bad in her life except the one that is really to blame...........herself. Just like the true sociopath that she is.

IMO

 

[Shelby1]

A little O/T, but I just read on Christie Paul's twitter (she's a host on TruTV) that TruTV is going to be cutting back to only 2 hours of coverage a day starting on March 4th.

Grrrrr.....I suppose the rest of the time will be filled with their stupid shows such as Wipeout or whatever that ridiculous mess is called.

I started a topic here about it :
TruTv Cutting Coverage - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community