Jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND #38 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[shantastic]

~bbm

I'm not sure whether she did or not. I think it's quite possible that the gun jammed and she had to go to plan b. That said, even if she did bring both the knife and gun, I don't think the State can prove, or even create a reasonable inference, that she brought the knife. I don't think LE saying that no knives were missing from the scene creates such an inference under the circumstances I mentioned above. The jury may disagree. But if I were on the jury, I wouldn't be assuming she brought the knife from home. jmo

eta: the felony murder charge also would stand on the gun having been brought. So still easier with a shot first theory also jmo

BBM I agree, unless they present more evidence about her carrying a knife around. Either way, her goose is cooked!:rocker:
O/T I wanted to test out my theory about my hubby having no clue what knives we have. Our knife block has 12 and a separate drawer has 6 larger chef style knives. These are not from a matching set, just random knives from our single days. I use these all the time, my hubby uses only one knife to cut anything lol. I took two out of the drawer and asked him which were missing. He said none were missing. We've been married 6 years and have had the same knives the whole time.

 

[Pink Panther]

She said she cut the leg holes

You know...I have HUGE doubts about the whole "spiderman boys underwear bit" as I'm inclined to think that they actually were ladies undies made to look like boys' (alla Charlie's Angel's - Cameron Diaz) and that she is so strange that she just didn't get it BUT...BUT...BUT...Entertaining the idea that he actually bought boy's underwear...Is it so beyond belief that he might have thought that Cameron Diaz was actually in boy's underwear as well? Maybe he thought that they were cute and wanted to get her a pair and he just thought that they were regular boy's undies on her. And maybe he screwed up the size? THAT sounds much more plausible to me than WHAM, he's a pedophile who (based on the sex tape) obviously enjoyed women???

Just a thought.

moo

 

[Zuri]

I thought maybe left over from her waitressing days

I didn't recall hearing that she worked in a Japanese restaurant

 

[TexMex]

Mexican food... chili.. y'all are making me hungry!! :eat:
Good luck in your competition!

Hi Callisto

Second place in chili :Banane05:

Tomorrow, bacon enchiladas after early church with our teenagers.

 

[katiecoolady]

That said, if she did go to plan B...That would negate any self defense claim right? Had to leave conflict to find knife.

Unless of course there happened to be a knife handy for sex games. :what:

She and her merry band of lying defenders are going to have a hard time, with the documented time frame, explaining how she managed to be under a life threatening attack and obtain not one but TWO deadly weapons immediately at her disposal, within seconds and carry out her own vicious attack.

 

[Pink Panther]

I also do NOT believe it was Jodi's decision, against Travis' wishes to move back to Yreka. None of that fits with her behavior or the relationship. I think she ran out of money and he insisted she move back due to her "psycho behavior".

I agree. That alone, the fact that he did not allow her to camp out at his place, must have infuriated her beyond belief. I can't believe that she moved to Mesa AFTER they had split. It makes NO SENSE to me whatsoever. I can't figure out if she ever "lived" with him "officially". Has this ever come out because it sounds to me like she never did???

 

[Zuri]

You know...I have HUGE doubts about the whole "spiderman boys underwear bit" as I'm inclined to think that they actually were ladies undies made to look like boys' (alla Charlie's Angel's - Cameron Diaz) and that she is so strange that she just didn't get it BUT...BUT...BUT...Entertaining the idea that he actually bought boy's underwear...Is it so beyond belief that he might have thought that Cameron Diaz was actually in boy's underwear as well? Maybe he thought that they were cute and wanted to get her a pair and he just thought that they were regular boy's undies on her. And maybe he screwed up the size? THAT sounds much more plausible to me than WHAM, he's a pedophile who (based on the sex tape) obviously enjoyed women???

Just a thought.

moo

Is there any proof that she had these spiderman undies? Or did she just think she was Cameron Diaz?

 

[popsicle]

Ah, so she didn't actually say she sent it to Abe - only that she composed it to him.

She said she sent it to Abe and forwarded it to Travis. It sounds like though... she wrote this email to Travis leading him to believe it had been sent to Abe by writing forward in the subject line. jmo

 

[Karmady]

That said, if she did go to plan B...That would negate any self defense claim right? Had to leave conflict to find knife.

Unless of course there happened to be a knife handy for sex games. :what:

Absolutely. If she had used the gun first (premeditated, but not necessarily extremely cruel -- hence the State's stabbed first argument on dp qualification), and the gun failed and she went to the knife, no self defense...period. Pure cold, calculated and ridiculous violence. Regardless of whether that knife was handy.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

I'm watching the day she testified this week where she's wearing a green shirt and explaining her own participation in the sex tape.

When talking about the sex part of it, she has that secret smile that Janine Driver talks about. How she's enjoying pulling something over through her lies. Or maybe she is smiling remembering the moment...whatever. That jury is sitting right there watching her SMILE.

Major creep factor.

Every time I watch her and her little smirks and smiles, I get the impression that she's more than happy to let everyone know SHE had sex with him and no one else ever did (or a very select few, at most, IMO). It makes HER feel special. Everyone adored Travis, but SHE got him.

:banghead:

 

[Karmady]

You know...I have HUGE doubts about the whole "spiderman boys underwear bit" as I'm inclined to think that they actually were ladies undies made to look like boys' (alla Charlie's Angel's - Cameron Diaz) and that she is so strange that she just didn't get it BUT...BUT...BUT...Entertaining the idea that he actually bought boy's underwear...Is it so beyond belief that he might have thought that Cameron Diaz was actually in boy's underwear as well? Maybe he thought that they were cute and wanted to get her a pair and he just thought that they were regular boy's undies on her. And maybe he screwed up the size? THAT sounds much more plausible to me than WHAM, he's a pedophile who (based on the sex tape) obviously enjoyed women???

Just a thought.

moo

I have no idea what to make of the whole boys' underwear scenario, so I'm not even gonna try. I was just answering a question about her explanation for it.

 

[seguek9]

I didn't recall hearing that she worked in a Japanese restaurant

"P.F. CHANGS" iirc...I think its a chain restaurant

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

She and her merry band of lying defenders are going to have a hard time, with the documented time frame, explaining how she managed to be under a life threatening attack and obtain not one but TWO deadly weapons immediately at her disposal, within seconds and carry out her own vicious attack.

And it was such a vicious attack that she came out of it with maybe a few tiny cuts on her hands. No other defensive wounds. She's good!

 

[Karmady]

"P.F. CHANGS" iirc...I think its a chain restaurant

It's a chain that serves "Asian fusion." Not like Benihana, for example.

 

[Quester]

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Did JA initially plan the mayhem for when TA visited her at the end of May 2008 on the west coast?
When did TA cancel his plans to visit JA in Yreka and Oregon?
When did JA make plans to visit RyanB in Utah and go to PPL mtg?
How did JA get along with TA's grandmother?

 

[karengo]

Juan will clear that little detail up for the jury as well.

Still confuses me why if they were so insulting why she kept them.

And I still think the one is not Travis.:twocents:

 

[Zuri]

I have an OT question, that Jodi made me think of....

When a woman with breast implants goes to prison, who pays for the care and upkeep of them? Implants only last about 8-10 years before they need to be replaced. If a woman goes to person for life, do authorities just say, "sorry - you have to keep that set in your body forever." Or do they allow the woman to have them removed when the time comes? And if so, I imagine the prisoner would have to pay for that surgery. But how? What if she can't?

That's my totally random Saturday night train of thought. Lol!

They last a lot longer than that! IMO

 

[panthera]

I have an OT question, that Jodi made me think of....

When a woman with breast implants goes to prison, who pays for the care and upkeep of them? Implants only last about 8-10 years before they need to be replaced. If a woman goes to person for life, do authorities just say, "sorry - you have to keep that set in your body forever." Or do they allow the woman to have them removed when the time comes? And if so, I imagine the prisoner would have to pay for that surgery. But how? What if she can't?

That's my totally random Saturday night train of thought. Lol!

BBM

Just curious when she got them?

Not sure what the answer is to your question or what medical problems could ensue if nothing was done with them.

Interesting though!

 

[Zuri]

"P.F. CHANGS" iirc...I think its a chain restaurant

I was thinking of those really sharp knives that are advertised on tv. Ginsburg knives?

 

[Zuri]

*Ginsu