Jodi Arias Trial Discussion #9 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[hindsight2020]

Beth Karas states she assumes the evidentiary hearing on January 28, PT is challenging something the DT wants to put on.

 

[sassy_texasbelle2]

Maybe a large amount of the time will be with Jodi on getting her ready to testify.

 

[HarvestMoon]

My brain kinda melted when the State rested. When is this trial supposed to resume?

Even though I think JA is guilty I think it is outrageous that the Court leave soff for a few weeks with the defendant claiming innocence still incarcerated and the victim's family in limbo over justice for Travis.

I already forgot if the trial is to resume January 22 or February 22....

Who knows, at this rate, resume date could be April 22.

 

[nursebeeme]

Is court done for today? I had to step out and when I returned i just heard the judge say something about January 28 and then the state seal come on. Sorry, I'm lost. ;-)
Thanks for any info

Pasa, the state called two witnesses and rested. Court is in recess until 28 Jan (evidentiary hearing) and 29 Jan resumes trial with jury.

hth

 

[hindsight2020]

Beth Karas states, experts cannot testify to what JA told them, regarding how she killed TA.

 

[Curious Me]

Sorry if Someone said this but even in JAs fake call to Travis after she killed him at 1130 pm
She was saying how she got lost etc etc invited him to othello play-so how would that go along with Travis "expecting" her visit? She was making like she'd never been there at all hours after she killed him where's the evidence he "expected" her?

You make sense. Thanks.

 

[creepingskills]

So last night I was watching the 48 Hours special "Picture Perfect" about JA.
I couldn't help but notice that Ryan Burns has put on a LOT of weight since they met in 2008. He is almost unrecognizable.

THANK YOU!!! I thought I may have been overreacting, but wow, what a difference.

 

[Hatfield]

bbm - Ryan Burns? He testifed. He talked about their romp, or mini romp, their history, their communication, the cuts on her fingers, her fiesty-ness, her six pack, etc. Was there another guy she visited the day after the murder?

I'm sorry. You are correct. I forgot Ryan already testified. That was a great day for the prosecution. Thank you for reminding me..

 

[Nikki In Denver]

Hi all! Long time reader...first time poster. First off...thank you for this amazing site. Its awesome being able to read up on trial when you miss a few mins here and there. After CA trial everyone thinks I'm coo coo so I really have to hide my trial addictions...lol. Especially during work hours! Anyone know how to minimize screen from keyboard? LOL...my mouse click is way too loud and obvious and I think my boss is on to me.

 

[PASA]

Pasa, the state called two witnesses and rested. Court is in recess until 28 Jan (evidentiary hearing) and 29 Jan resumes trial with jury.

hth

Thanks so much. Planned to go sit in on the trial this afternoon, guess I won't now. LOL!!

 

[KMouse]

Someone asked earlier if this was an appropriate place for the state to rest and IMO it was. Think of the evidence we've seen:

-denials of being present
-same caliber gun missing from Jodi's home and Jodi's refusal to answer where she got the gun to kill Travis
-2nd story of intruders and Jodi's escape
-turning cell phone off as leaving California so ate can't be tracked
- changing the color of her hair after she rented car, changing it back again before she returned car
-renting inconspicuous car 90 miles from her own home
- subsequently admitting to killing but not reporting Travis' death, acting like everything is fine with new love interest a few hours later
-leaving voicemail after Travis died, pretending like she still thinks he is alive
- her own words that she needed to move on from Travis because he had found the person he was going to marry
-hiding/disposing of murder weapons and clothing
- indications of obsession before the murder
-waiting to assert self defense for 2 years, and only when the evidence disproved her other lies
-killing him 3 times over

That's a lot of evidence of premeditation, and thats really all they have to prove in this case. I think they put on all the evidence necessary to eliminate reasonable doubt about premeditation and the cruelty qualification.

They don't have to put on any evidence about self defense until after the defense put on their case.

To prove the premeditation all they need to show is that Travis was killed "three times over". Each stab wound comes with it's own premeditation.

 

[LotusPawprint]

My brain kinda melted when the State rested. When is this trial supposed to resume?

Even though I think JA is guilty I think it is outrageous that the Court leave soff for a few weeks with the defendant claiming innocence still incarcerated and the victim's family in limbo over justice for Travis.

I already forgot if the trial is to resume January 22 or February 22....

Resumes January 29th.

Remember though, everyone involved knew about the break ahead of time. The trial has been delayed over and over for years so scheduling this in was not a surprise. Hopefully the jurors can recharge. Lawyers and judge can regroup and take care of other business.

 

[Boodles]

I think she established that Jodi was the same ole Jody.. right after she murdered Travis.

If she was abused, etc wouldn't you think she would tell her best friend that she talked to all the time? The same friend that she shared that she was having a sexual relationship that was forbidden?

I think the jury got it too... they asked how many times the two talked/communicated (her answer was too many to count).

No. People who are abused often go to great lengths to hide it. They experience shame and denial. Isolation often accompanies abuse. And then - SURPRISE - you find out after something horrible occurs. This is so very common. If you haven't experienced or had someone close to you be a victim, it might be too hard to understand. I, very sadly, have seen this several times.

SECRETS ARE TOXIC.

 

[LotusPawprint]

I'm sorry. You are correct. I forgot Ryan already testified. That was a great day for the prosecution. Thank you for reminding me..

No problem. I wish I could get the testimony of her "adjusting him" out of my mind - LOL!

 

[katiecoolady]

Wow, just got back to my computer and see the State has rested already? Just catching up.

I'm still planning on attending next Wed. -- think trial jury is back on? Man I can't wait to see what the defense is gonna try and serve up (although i might need to bring a barf bag).

 

[katiecoolady]

No problem. I wish I could get the testimony of her "adjusting him" out of my mind - LOL!

That "adjusting him" bit sure shows her to be more of an aggressor in the sexual relationship vs. a demure passive participant (victim).

 

[katiecoolady]

Thanks so much. Planned to go sit in on the trial this afternoon, guess I won't now. LOL!!

Let me know if you think you might go next Wed. Would love to connect up there.

 

[JSR]

Does she testify or not?

Let's discuss.

Who thinks she will? Who doesn't?

 

[nursebeeme]

No. People who are abused often go to great lengths to hide it. They experience shame and denial. Isolation often accompanies abuse. And then - SURPRISE - you find out after something horrible occurs. This is so very common. If you haven't experienced or had someone close to you be a victim, it might be too hard to understand. I, very sadly, have seen this several times.

SECRETS ARE TOXIC.

that may well be.. but I was also talking about the fact that she had just stabbed the man 27 times, nearly decapitated him, and shot him and then is "the same old Jodi"

that is not just a secret (it is also my opinion that she was not abused.):twocents:

 

[Hatfield]

I am glad they have alternate jurors in case some of jurors admit to seeing bias news reports.

IMO, I am guessing that almost every juror will end up seeing some sort of news coverage about this trial in the break. I think almost every one of them will tell a "fib" that they did not see or hear anything that affects their thoughts about the trial.

I think it happens all the time.

JMO of course.