Josh Duggar charged with Receipt/Possession Child Sexual Abuse Material, 29 April 2021 #1

[BeckyF]

He might actually beat this. Believe it or not, the bar is really high on CSA photos. Unless he also had them on his phone. And even then, he could off very light.

I have seen people caught with a ton of CSA on their computers, they said it was sent to them, they downloaded it without looking at it. Someone else used their phone/computer. Blah blah...they went to the site, and by "accident" clicked on the wrong page, which became a rabbit hole...

The way people get nailed, is actually sharing files, sending it to someone. That is an action. That is how Jared Fogel was in trouble. But the receipt of CSA, is passive. "Yeah, I didn't know what it was...". Happens all of the time with military. Although, they usually get investigated and not charged.

Not sure what the difference is here.

He won’t beat it.

 

[mickey2942]

He won’t beat it.

I know. I looked a little bit more into the specifics of Josh Duggar..he is going down. What he had, you can check my link above.

Psychopath. Hard core.

 

[Tutter]

This describes pretty graphically what types of CSAM was on Josh Duggar's computer. At least this monster is in prison.
Peter Scully - Wikipedia

Big, BIG warning on this. I know everyone has said it....don’t research this. You will regret it.

I wish I hadn’t.
But if we have to know this, then I think Anna and the rest of the Duggars should have to bear it too. They need to know how poisoned Josh is. There is no cure.

 

[Springrain]

Big, BIG warning on this. I know everyone has said it....don’t research this. You will regret it.

I wish I hadn’t.
But if we have to know this, then I think Anna and the rest of the Duggars should have to bear it too. They need to know how poisoned Josh is. There is no cure.

Please, anyone reading my post, take it as a MASSIVE TRIGGER WARNING for reading that Wikipedia article. It is horrific and sick, and I recommend not reading it, and if you do, please take care of yourself and do what you need to feel better afterwards.

This man was so evil that some people on the case wanted to bring the death penalty back to the Philippines specifically for him. I feel that tells you everything you need to know.

 

[mickey2942]

Please, anyone reading my post, take it as a MASSIVE TRIGGER WARNING for reading that Wikipedia article. It is horrific and sick, and I recommend not reading it, and if you do, please take care of yourself and do what you need to feel better afterwards.

This man was so evil that some people on the case wanted to bring the death penalty back to the Philippines specifically for him. I feel that tells you everything you need to know.

Agreed. I wasn't sure about posting it. But what Josh Duggar is into is beyond "normal". It is in the realm of psychopath.

I had to do a bit more research on my own about Josh Duggar. And it is mind boggling to me that the judge let him out with bail, and even worse, can still be around his children!

 

[Cool Cats]

He might actually beat this. Believe it or not, the bar is really high on CSA photos. Unless he also had them on his phone. And even then, he could off very light.

I have seen people caught with a ton of CSA on their computers, they said it was sent to them, they downloaded it without looking at it. Someone else used their phone/computer. Blah blah...they went to the site, and by "accident" clicked on the wrong page, which became a rabbit hole...

The way people get nailed, is actually sharing files, sending it to someone. That is an action. That is how Jared Fogel was in trouble. But the receipt of CSA, is passive. "Yeah, I didn't know what it was...". Happens all of the time with military. Although, they usually get investigated and not charged.

Not sure what the difference is here.

He will take a plea - all opinion only.

Difference is instead of someone sending it to him "out of the blue" he went looking for it. A forensic search of his electronics will show his searches, that he was seeking it out, maybe even paid for it in online currency.

Point is, these FBI investigators can tell the difference in someone innocent clicking on their email - could happen to us - or downloading multiple dark web child abuse sites. One time accident?
Or an ongoing situation?

The Feds DO NOT arrest anyone without iron clad proof, unlike regular law enforcement.

This could be one reason why there is such a long gap between his computer raid and the arrest warrant on him. They got exactly what they need.

Only 2% of federal criminal defendants go to trial, and most who do are found guilty

 

[Shamrock1]

DO NOT CASUALLY RESEARCH "DD" - you can't un-see it. This isn't a "trigger warning" - it's ten times that. DD is very, very bad and please trust that the agent was correct when he said it is in the "top 5" of what the agent has seen. JMO from someone who knew about it a few years ago, forgot about it (kids/life), and never wanted to see a reference to it again.

 

[usnuzuloose]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Joshua James Duggar is a danger to society.

An attorney on court tv agrees he is a danger to society

 

[usnuzuloose]

To bad it is federal, can't see the trial

 

[SBops]

I love that term 'fondling' like it was just a sign of affection. It was not 'fondling', it was invasive assault.

 

[everybodhi]

Big, BIG warning on this. I know everyone has said it....don’t research this. You will regret it.

I wish I hadn’t.
But if we have to know this, then I think Anna and the rest of the Duggars should have to bear it too. They need to know how poisoned Josh is. There is no cure.

Please, anyone reading my post, take it as a MASSIVE TRIGGER WARNING for reading that Wikipedia article. It is horrific and sick, and I recommend not reading it, and if you do, please take care of yourself and do what you need to feel better afterwards.

This man was so evil that some people on the case wanted to bring the death penalty back to the Philippines specifically for him. I feel that tells you everything you need to know.

Agreed. I wasn't sure about posting it. But what Josh Duggar is into is beyond "normal". It is in the realm of psychopath.

I had to do a bit more research on my own about Josh Duggar. And it is mind boggling to me that the judge let him out with bail, and even worse, can still be around his children!

Thank you for the warnings, there are too many child abuse details I’ve read that haunt me, I’m going to skip this one.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Thanks for bringing this up. I feel the same as you.

Why Josh Duggar freaks me out

When I research this subject there is usually a disturbing theme:

Escalation!

Apparently it is not uncommon for people who view adult porn for years and years to get desensitized to it thus they seek out more graphic porn. Yes viewing porn can get worse, without describing it I will put it this way:

Adults engaging in intimate relations, groups of adults, bondage, torture...

So anyway, it is easy for some to escalate their viewing into these various types. The thing that I didn't know is that this adult porn escalation can advance past adult porn and go into child sexual abuse.

From there it can keep escalating, the viewer getting desensitized and going further. By further I mean what I said above, how it goes further with viewing adult porn can go further viewing child sexual abuse.

So when I hear Josh went from touching his sisters to watching adult porn to then seeking real life sex with multiple partners, to viewing child sexual abuse to viewing escalating child sexual abuse etc..

I fear if escalation and getting desensitized continues unchecked then Josh might try to touch a real child. He will think, "I won't do that again" then he does.

Then this touching a real child escalates to more and more encounters.

It can even escalate to younger children. Do you know one reason child sexual predators start seeking out young toddlers? Because they are too young to describe it.

So all this is why Josh Duggar freaks me out!

Studies suggesting that non-pedophilic porn users can escalate into child porn

How extreme porn has become a gateway drug into child abuse

Why did my porn use escalate?

5 Things I Learned From Being Addicted To Child Porn

... 2 1/2 Cents ...

Respectfully, I am skeptical that "it is not uncommon for people who view adult porn for years and years to get desensitized to it thus they seek out more graphic porn."

I have no links easily at hand to support this, but I think the vast majority of people who view adult porn have categories that they continually seek out, and never escalate to worse things, and would be horrified and sickened by CSAM rather than aroused.

That being said, I think people who want the kind of atrocities that Duggar accessed will not find what they are seeking on mainstream porn sites, so will dig deeper to find it, which could be termed an escalation.

But I think those people are uncommon rather than not uncommon.

 

[Inthedetails]

When the Oprah show received the letter and forwarded it to authorities, did the show still do the interview with the Duggars or did they cancel?

 

[CrimeAway]

Apparently erectile dysfunction can be linked to pornography;

erectile dysfunction pornography - Google Search

 

[sds71]

When the Oprah show received the letter and forwarded it to authorities, did the show still do the interview with the Duggars or did they cancel?

They canceled the taping.

 

[everybodhi]

When the Oprah show received the letter and forwarded it to authorities, did the show still do the interview with the Duggars or did they cancel?

No. Cancelled.
Harpo got the email at 6:30 AM, by 1:17 PM the state police had contacted Michelle.

The Duggars were already in Chicago for the taping, which was scheduled within a day of the email. Oprah's staff jumped so quickly, we've learned at 1:17 PM the same day, an Arkansas State Police officer contacted Michelle, telling her she needed to bring Josh back home immediately for an interview.

Turns out there was no conflict, because Oprah's people immediately cancelled the taping and sent the family home.

Oprah Sent Duggar Family Packing After Molestation Tip

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Someone posted a link to this article and I apologize to that person because I am too lazy to go back and look up who it was, but thank you.

At the very end is this horrifying statement:

The most shared child abuse file is being seen on more than 2.6M IP addresses, per Child Rescue Coalition.

Article cited:

A CLOSER LOOK: Josh Duggar's child porn arrest brings interest to the photographed victims

 

[PrivateInspector007]

I had wondered about the latter. That's one way to get the feds to swoop in fast.

I don't know.. politicians, their kids, rich and famous are currently getting away with it. Seems like they pick and chose who to prosecute when it comes to children being abused.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

In the same vein as "child porn," the term "child prostitute" should be replaced with "child sexual abuse victim."

 

[GoBuckeyes]

There's some interesting information about some of that, which I came across from those who like to snark about the family. Maybe as he got older, Josh became more interested in computers, and perhaps even had friends who were tech savvy??

I could see that being a real possibility.